Chipper Jones, Jim Thome, Vlad Guerrero and Trevor Hoffman inducted into the HOF

[DragonfromTO]

Yeah, if they didn't do it while he was alive, they'd probably feel like pricks electing him now

He's had too many kicks at it too, I suspect that creates a bit of a "ugh, how many times have we rejected this guy already?" vibe.

 

[Cedrique]

Wow, I never knew Minnie Minoso was good. I just remember they brought him in as a pinch hitter in 1980 so he could play in 5 decades. He was in his 50s at the time

 

[Omar 382]

He's had too many kicks at it too, I suspect that creates a bit of a "ugh, how many times have we rejected this guy already?" vibe.

Was Wu-Tang's new album any good? I liked the lead single that you showed me, but I never checked the album out- been busy mourning Eminem's "Revival" + Kevin Gates being in prison.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Was Wu-Tang's new album any good? I liked the lead single that you showed me, but I never checked the album out- been busy mourning Eminem's "Revival" + Kevin Gates being in prison.

It's not bad. Not all of the members are all that prominently featured, there's a lot of Meth on the album. But there's a lot of good stuff, solid guest contributions by Sean Price and Chris Rivers. It was probably a little disappointing, but I liked it.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Congrats to the 4.

But i cant find an emoji that can properly show how dissapointed i am right now

sorry

papi will be the first

then edgar

then maybe baines

 

[StanMarsh51]

sorry

papi will be the first

then edgar

then maybe baines

 

[Rock Strongo]

before edgar, he was considered the best DH of all time.

 

[StanMarsh51]

before edgar, he was considered the best DH of all time.

Which doesn't mean much, because back then teams either rotated a number of guys at DH or stuck guys past their primes there. Baines was one of the only guys at that time who was in his prime and was a 'DH specialist.'

Look at the early '90s for instance, where much of teams' DH position was occupied by players 35+ or players who played 80 games at another position and 50 games at DH.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Which doesn't mean much, because back then teams either rotated a number of guys at DH or stuck guys past their primes there. Baines was one of the few at that time who was in his prime and was a 'DH specialist.'

almost 2900 hits
384 HR
1628 RBI
.820 OPS

11 seasons of 20+ HR

FYI, there are only 11 guys with more than 1600 RBI not in the hall:
in order from top to bottom in RBI

arod
bonds
pujols
palmeiro
manny
ortiz
sheffield
sosa
beltre
miggy
baines

think that over

 

[StanMarsh51]

almost 2900 hits
384 HR
1628 RBI
.820 OPS

11 seasons of 20+ HR

FYI, there are only 11 guys with more than 1600 RBI not in the hall:
in order from top to bottom in RBI

arod
bonds
pujols
palmeiro
manny
ortiz
sheffield
sosa
beltre
miggy
baines

think that over

How many great seasons did he have? We're talking about a guy who never finished better than 9th in MVP voting and never finished top 5 in most major categories.

He's got 1600 RBI but only 2x managed to finished top 10 in the league, so that just tells you his numbers are largely a function of playing for a long time instead of 'dominance.'

He was just a pretty good hitter who played for a long time.

 

[Rock Strongo]

How many great seasons did he have? We're talking about a guy who never finished better than 9th in MVP voting and never finished top 5 in most major categories.

He's got 1600 RBI but only 2x managed to finished top 10 in the league, so that just tells you his numbers are largely a function of playing for a long time instead of 'dominance.'

He was just a pretty good hitter who played for a long time.

DH's never won or were considered highly for MVP in his time.

 

[Rock Strongo]

How many great seasons did he have? We're talking about a guy who never finished better than 9th in MVP voting and never finished top 5 in most major categories.

He's got 1600 RBI but only 2x managed to finished top 10 in the league, so that just tells you his numbers are largely a function of playing for a long time instead of 'dominance.'

He was just a pretty good hitter who played for a long time.

same as a guy and 3k hits.

you have to be a compiler in some fashion.

 

[StanMarsh51]

DH's never won or were considered highly for MVP in his time.

Largely because most guys who spent time at DHs were past their primes or part-time DHs who played other positions.

Paul Molitor finished 2nd in MVP voting in 1993 as a DH, so I'm not buying that excuse....