CFP: Number of 3 Loss Teams?

[Ron G]

SEC centric announcers kept saying that Georgia is in the playoff with the win, even if they lose the SEC Championship game.
That is also their way of saying Alabama is also in. If Georgia lost and then had 3 losses would that not mean Alabama also gets in because of beating Georgia.
So in their mind 2 and maybe 3 SEC teams with 3 loses (Texas A&M with a win over Texas and then over Georgia) all get in regardless of how many other 1 or 2 loss teams get left out. And also, Texas with 2 losses (the A&M game) then gives the SEC 4.

 

[Ron G]

Watching MIch beat OSU. How, they rushed 4 in the last 45 seconds and did not let the QB have any real time. They were not in total prevent (which often does not prevent anything).

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

We all know with Clemson's loss they are frothing at the mouth to shove 3 loss Alabama into the playoffs.

 

[HuskerOC]

We all know with Clemson's loss they are frothing at the mouth to shove 3 loss Alabama into the playoffs.

What 2 or 3 loss team would be a better add?

We still have a week of conference championship games left. Be careful with your response.

 

[belcherboy]

Let’s talk about how tough that Texas schedule been lol in the big bad sec. Best wins came against 6-5 Florida and 6-5 vandy

Even Tennessee isn’t likely to have a regular season win against a playoff team.

 

[Ron G]

So we will see how ESPN influences the committee to put South Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Missouri, Tennessee even Florida, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Kentucky and why not Oklahoma. After all they are in the SEC and all those 1 and 2 loss teams are not and therefore do not deserve to be in. Winning games is no longer important if you are in SEC>

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

What 2 or 3 loss team would be a better add?

We still have a week of conference championship games left. Be careful with your response.

Asu would be the closest. I didn't say they shouldn't be in, I just said how excited the committee must have been to see Clemson lose so they could put Alabama in there. Clemson hasn't had a single win against a ranked opponent and were insanely over ranked. It would have been hell to explain how they would be in over multiple teams if they somehow pulled off the win against SC for their sole ranked win. Clemson can finally be put to rest and that headache is gone

 

[rmilia1]

I think at this point we have

B12 winner
Oregon
Penn State
Indiana
Ohio State
ND
Texas
UGA
Tennessee
MWC winner
ACC winner

This 11 are locks

12th spot with be


Miami
Bama
SO Car

As the 3 possibilities

And if UNLV beats Boise and or Clemson beats SMU you could put Boise and SMU in with those 3 for the last at large

 

[HuskerOC]

Georgia is a lock if they lose the SEC Championship and have 3 losses?

 

[Ron G]

Georgia is a lock if they lose the SEC Championship and have 3 losses?

One pundit (SEC sycophant) has South Carolina and Alabama in the playoff ahead of Arizona State, Iowa State, a few other 2 loss teams even if they win their conferences and end up with 1 (Army) or two losses.
Either quite calling these teams FBS teams and conferences. The concept of putting teams in because of what the committee thinks they would do rather than what they have actually done is bogus. You could argue that even a four loss Alabama would beat the 1 loss Army and for that reason does not give Army to chance to compete.
Here is what the perfect world would be: You are either designated an FBS eligible team or you are not, teams with the most wins get into the Play Off. wins against FCS teams do not count (although a loss to one of these teams would factor in). Strength of schedule can be considered in the case of ties, but let's face it, SOS is irrelevant if you don't win the majority of those games.

 

[rmilia1]

Georgia is a lock if they lose the SEC Championship and have 3 losses?

Yes

 

[rmilia1]

One pundit (SEC sycophant) has South Carolina and Alabama in the playoff ahead of Arizona State, Iowa State, a few other 2 loss teams even if they win their conferences and end up with 1 (Army) or two losses.
Either quite calling these teams FBS teams and conferences. The concept of putting teams in because of what the committee thinks they would do rather than what they have actually done is bogus. You could argue that even a four loss Alabama would beat the 1 loss Army and for that reason does not give Army to chance to compete.
Here is what the perfect world would be: You are either designated an FBS eligible team or you are not, teams with the most wins get into the Play Off. wins against FCS teams do not count (although a loss to one of these teams would factor in). Strength of schedule can be considered in the case of ties, but let's face it, SOS is irrelevant if you don't win the majority of those games.

The top 5 conference champs get auto bids so there's literally no way Boise/UNLV winner or ISU/AZST winner get left out

That dude shouldn't be don't projections if he doesn't know how the rules work lol

 

[bksballer89]

Georgia is a lock if they lose the SEC Championship and have 3 losses?

Yes

 

[Ron G]

Yes

You may be right but still unfair. Any team with 3 losses did not earn their way in. Their roster may look better because of recruiting, but nonetheless they will not have earned their way in.

 

[bksballer89]

You may be right but still unfair. Any team with 3 losses did not earn their way in. Their roster may look better because of recruiting, but nonetheless they will not have earned their way in.

Should they sit out so they can end up with 2 losses like Miami?

 

[rmilia1]

You may be right but still unfair. Any team with 3 losses did not earn their way in. Their roster may look better because of recruiting, but nonetheless they will not have earned their way in.

Is really just a function of who the other teams left are

Your not taking Bama or So Car who didn't make the SEC title game over UGA so really you're only left with Miami who also didn't make the ACC title game

There's no one else right now

That could change if SMI or Boise loses though but the schedule difference and quality of win difference is pretty huge there

 

[Ron G]

Is really just a function of who the other teams left are

Your not taking Bama or So Car who didn't make the SEC title game over UGA so really you're only left with Miami who also didn't make the ACC title game

There's no one else right now

That could change if SMI or Boise loses though but the schedule difference and quality of win difference is pretty huge there

Luking is Army with one loss. I they can't get in with one loss then the whole conference needs to be dropped from the FBS category. Infact, they could be a one loss team with the "best" loss being Notre Dame.

 

[PhilSimms11]

Playoff contenders
ACC--SMU (12-1 or 11-2) vs Clemson (10-3 or 9-4)
Big XII--Arizona St (11-2 or 10-3) vs Iowa St (11-2 or 10-3)
Big Ten--Oregon (13-0 or 12-1) vs Penn St (12-1 or 11-2)
SEC--Texas (12-1 or 11-2) vs Georgia (11-2 or 10-3)
MWC--Boise St (12-1 or 11-2) vs UNLV (11-2 or 10-3)

Notre Dame (11-1)
Tennessee (10-2)
Ohio St (10-2)
Indiana (11-1)
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It could end up like this...
Oregon (13-0)
Texas (12-1)
Penn St (11-2)
Notre Dame (11-1)
Georgia (10-3)
Tennessee (10-2)
Ohio St (10-2)
SMU (12-1)
Indiana (11-1)
Boise St (12-1)
Arizona St (11-2)

That's only 11. If SMU loses do they get in? If Texas wins there'll be a 3-loss team that gets in (Georgia). God help us, don't tell me Alabama (9-3) will get in. They don't deserve a spot. This is why I'm not a huge fan of 12 teams.

 

[Ron G]

Playoff contenders
ACC--SMU (12-1 or 11-2) vs Clemson (10-3 or 9-4)
Big XII--Arizona St (11-2 or 10-3) vs Iowa St (11-2 or 10-3)
Big Ten--Oregon (13-0 or 12-1) vs Penn St (12-1 or 11-2)
SEC--Texas (12-1 or 11-2) vs Georgia (11-2 or 10-3)
MWC--Boise St (12-1 or 11-2) vs UNLV (11-2 or 10-3)

Notre Dame (11-1)
Tennessee (10-2)
Ohio St (10-2)
Indiana (11-1)
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It could end up like this...
Oregon (13-0)
Texas (12-1)
Penn St (11-2)
Notre Dame (11-1)
Georgia (10-3)
Tennessee (10-2)
Ohio St (10-2)
SMU (12-1)
Indiana (11-1)
Boise St (12-1)
Arizona St (11-2)

That's only 11. If SMU loses do they get in? If Texas wins there'll be a 3-loss team that gets in (Georgia). God help us, don't tell me Alabama (9-3) will get in. They don't deserve a spot. This is why I'm not a huge fan of 12 teams.

If Georgia loses and gets in, so does Alabama (at least in ESPN'S view). Afterall, same record and Alabama won the head to head.

So two deserving teams don't get in. According to some, winning more games and losing less games is not the criteria.
Your prediction even gives Georgia a home game. If that comes to pass, who can argue that the fix is not in from Week 0.

Even having a Week 0 shows the incompetence of the NCAA.

 

[BamaDude]

SEC centric announcers kept saying that Georgia is in the playoff with the win, even if they lose the SEC Championship game.
That is also their way of saying Alabama is also in. If Georgia lost and then had 3 losses would that not mean Alabama also gets in because of beating Georgia.
So in their mind 2 and maybe 3 SEC teams with 3 loses (Texas A&M with a win over Texas and then over Georgia) all get in regardless of how many other 1 or 2 loss teams get left out. And also, Texas with 2 losses (the A&M game) then gives the SEC 4.

I cringed every time I heard the ABC/ESPN announcers say that Georgia was in with a win vs Tech & a loss in the SEC Championship Game (or, vice-versa). Even though I am an SEC fan, I did not want a 3-loss team representing the conference in the playoffs. I guess it still might have happened if Georgia lost to Tech & went on to beat Texas, since Clemson was able to get in with 3 losses. You couldn't have a 3-loss Clemson team in and leave out the team that crushed them head-to-head.

I'm just glad things worked out the way they did (except I wish SMU had beaten Clemson so that a more deserving team would be in the mix).