Carson Palmer Sucks

[flamingrey]

Probably the worst 3rd and 1 defense I've ever seen.

 

[cincygrad]

A trip away from a pick 6. That should do it.

 

[bengaldoug]

Bedtime for me. Fri morn starts early.

 

[flamingrey]

ESPN STATS

The Seahawks recorded seven sacks, six of which were with four or fewer pass-rushers, their second most in a game in the past seven seasons.

Carson Palmer was put under duress or sacked in 27 of his 54 dropbacks.

Palmer had his fifth straight game with multiple interceptions, the first quarterback with such a streak since Vinny Testaverde for the 2000 Jets.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I told you guys he would throw 25ish INTs.

 

[DanBengalfan]

always an excuse though

 

[Cincyfan78]

The first INT should have been PI...however, Carson woefully underthrew his WR. If he lays it out there, it's a catch. Carson "Dalton'd" that ball to his WR.

The second INT, Carson was just throwing towards his WR to get rid of the ball before he got sacked. It was a careless throw simply to avoid getting nailed.

 

[bengaldoug]

The first one, to Fitz, could have gone for six if he got it out there. Fitz had a step and if he had been hit in stride I could easily have seen him going all the way after breaking a tackle.

 

[Tubbs1518]

The first one, to Fitz, could have gone for six if he got it out there. Fitz had a step and if he had been hit in stride I could easily have seen him going all the way after breaking a tackle.

Palmer should have had another one that he threw right to Richard Sherman and Michael Floyd knocked it away at the last second.

 

[cincygrad]

It's hard to believe that CP was worth a 1st and 3rd as recently as two seasons ago.

 

[cincygrad]

An interesting perspective on Carson Palmer

Bill Barnwell on Carson Palmer - Grantland

I'd say most of it is fair.

 

[futballiscool]

An interesting perspective on Carson Palmer

Bill Barnwell on Carson Palmer - Grantland

I'd say most of it is fair.

One thing I'd disagree with was that the knee injury indirectly led to the elbow injury.His arm got bent the wrong way on a blindside hit from an untouched defensive back. the hit caused the injury imo.

the article makes you wonder if Tommy John surgery was the best plan at that point

 

[futballiscool]

The first INT should have been PI...however, Carson woefully underthrew his WR. If he lays it out there, it's a catch. Carson "Dalton'd" that ball to his WR.

The second INT, Carson was just throwing towards his WR to get rid of the ball before he got sacked. It was a careless throw simply to avoid getting nailed.

I don't think it was PI. The corner timed it perfectly imo. even in slow motion i couldnt tell if the ball or the contact was first.

Also I didn't think the throw was as poor as everyone else in the thread. Fitzgerald had a half a step on the corner and Palmer put it on him. it was just a great defensive play by the corner and Earl Thomas. Palmer played poorly overall but I didn't think there was anything wrong with the throw

 

[cincygrad]

One thing I'd disagree with was that the knee injury indirectly led to the elbow injury.His arm got bent the wrong way on a blindside hit from an untouched defensive back. the hit caused the injury imo.

the article makes you wonder if Tommy John surgery was the best plan at that point

I always believed it was the arm injury and not the knee injury that hurt his career more.

 

[futballiscool]

I always believed it was the arm injury and not the knee injury that hurt his career more.

I agree. His whole game was based on arm talent. There are times when his arm looks good, but it's been erratic since that injury

 

[Tubbs1518]

I think the knee injury messed with his mind more, but the elbow injury hurt his physical game more.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I don't think it was PI. The corner timed it perfectly imo. even in slow motion i couldnt tell if the ball or the contact was first.

Also I didn't think the throw was as poor as everyone else in the thread. Fitzgerald had a half a step on the corner and Palmer put it on him. it was just a great defensive play by the corner and Earl Thomas. Palmer played poorly overall but I didn't think there was anything wrong with the throw

Defensive holding at least, but clearly contact before the attempted catch. Woefully underthrown, as Fitz had more than 1/2 step. Yes, it was a good play by the defender on the actual INT, but it was an easy catch if Carson doesn't under throw him forcing Fitz to stop/slow down.

Jesus. 3 years later and people are still making fucking excuses for Carson Palmer. The guy fucking sucks. Let's all move on.

 

[futballiscool]

Defensive holding at least, but clearly contact before the attempted catch. Woefully underthrown, as Fitz had more than 1/2 step. Yes, it was a good play by the defender on the actual INT, but it was an easy catch if Carson doesn't under throw him forcing Fitz to stop/slow down.

Jesus. 3 years later and people are still making fucking excuses for Carson Palmer. The guy fucking sucks. Let's all move on.

I saw Fitzgerald with his arms extended in front of him attempting to make a catch in one on one coverage. It doesn't matter if its Palmer, Dalton, Brady etc. The throw was there. There was little seperation and a great play by the defender.

 

[flamingrey]

Defensive holding at least, but clearly contact before the attempted catch. Woefully underthrown, as Fitz had more than 1/2 step. Yes, it was a good play by the defender on the actual INT, but it was an easy catch if Carson doesn't under throw him forcing Fitz to stop/slow down.

Jesus. 3 years later and people are still making fucking excuses for Carson Palmer. The guy fucking sucks. Let's all move on.

Who's making excuses?

Well I guess this could be considered an excuse:

The first INT should have been PI...however, Carson woefully underthrew his WR. If he lays it out there, it's a catch. Carson "Dalton'd" that ball to his WR.

...oh wait...that was YOU!

Oops!

 

[flamingrey]

...and then I came across this...

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/3828391-post22.html

Oh, the irony!