Caleb Williams

[Jiddy]

I think the biggest things I've learned in the first three weeks are:

While the quantity of our holes have diminished, the ones remaining are so egregious that they are diminishing much of the good the rest of the team is doing.

I was hoping that lightning in a bottle could happen and this team could find double digit wins this season. I doubt that's happening now despite the "historically xxx teams that started out 1-2 turned it around so it's possible" argument. We're gonna get shut down by teams with good blitz concepts and/or strong defensive lines. You can't consistently win football games if that is the case.

 

[BsGenius]

I think the biggest things I've learned in the first three weeks are:

While the quantity of our holes have diminished, the ones remaining are so egregious that they are diminishing much of the good the rest of the team is doing.

I was hoping that lightning in a bottle could happen and this team could find double digit wins this season. I doubt that's happening now despite the "historically xxx teams that started out 1-2 turned it around so it's possible" argument. We're gonna get shut down by teams with good blitz concepts and/or strong defensive lines. You can't consistently win football games if that is the case.

There was always just one giant hole at OL. You just never understood football

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

I think the biggest things I've learned in the first three weeks are:

While the quantity of our holes have diminished, the ones remaining are so egregious that they are diminishing much of the good the rest of the team is doing.

I was hoping that lightning in a bottle could happen and this team could find double digit wins this season. I doubt that's happening now despite the "historically xxx teams that started out 1-2 turned it around so it's possible" argument. We're gonna get shut down by teams with good blitz concepts and/or strong defensive lines. You can't consistently win football games if that is the case.

I had them pegged for 10-7 this season. I'm not ready to say that ship has already sailed, way too much football left. But I also have to admit I was expecting a stronger, more consistent offense out of the gate, so it's not like I'm 100% confident at this point the team will hit those numbers. Guess we'll all have to put on our hurry up and wait hats and see how the season progresses.

 

[richig07]

I had them pegged for 10-7 this season. I'm not ready to say that ship has already sailed, way too much football left. But I also have to admit I was expecting a stronger, more consistent offense out of the gate, so it's not like I'm 100% confident at this point the team will hit those numbers. Guess we'll all have to put on our hurry up and wait hats and see how the season progresses.

I just am stunned at the regression of our O-line. As a consequence, our run game as well. Some of the sacks are on Caleb (not all). The lack of run game is purely on the line.

It's really, really tough for a rookie QB to develop without a run game to help him along. I would argue it's easier to work around being pressured a lot - you can scheme around that to help (to an extent). When you legitimately just CANNOT run? You're just getting beat downhill, hat on hat every single play? Like, what are you really going to do? You're going to wind up putting the onus on your rookie QB to drop back 50+ times, is what's going to happen.

Can we please see SOMETHING change? Anything? The approach? The personnel? This can't just be recycled, rinsed, and repeated for 17 damn games.

 

[justanidiot]

Yea,this team has let CW down.....no qb I believe could survive behind that line.
Its probably the worst Ive ever seen and thats including the 70s Bears that I watched........

BUt it goes beyond the coaching and oline,its also Poles doings.......
Keenen Allen signing is head scratching right now,drafting a punter when there was nothing wrong with ours when we 100% needed a center.....and I can go on.


A punter has no equal value to the trenches when needed,and we did/do needed those positions filled......punter to me is a luxury when you have all valued positions filled,and we dont/didnt.....

So to get CW to where we need him is not happening this year......I just dont see it.
I dont even know at midseason trade deadline,if its worth trading for one cause the season will be over for us by then......

Well, as far as the punter goes, the bears were dead last in net yards per punt. The guy at 39 was a kicker that had 1 punt. So it was a need. Now, would anyone have drafted this guy before the 7th round? Thats the draft, hindsight is 20/20 usually.
I have brought up the center thing in nauseum, there were three drafted ahead of the third round pick we used on the Yale tackle. Barton, Powers-Johnson and Frazier, to Tampa, the Raidas and Steelers. Next was not taken until the fourth round 117 Bartolini to the colts. All teams that usually can run the ball at will. Center is where it starts. We were privy to a couple great ones in Hilgenberg and Kreutz, From that is where I get my comments of being the first one down field to pick up their running back. That is what I remember more, even more than John madden suggesting the Hilgenbergs playing catch squatted down back to back.

The question is, how much damage do you allow this kid to take, because we have seen it ruin 2 in a row. Not sure when it will happen for Caleb. As soon as Allen starts screaming for the ball in the huddle, we will see what Caleb is made of. All the Veteran receivers seem to be doing is shaking their heads something we all hope is this stupid play calling.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Hopefully, the league isn’t too mean to him about painting his fingernails.

This season has the potential to be the biggest train wreck in Chicago sports history. The defense is very good, but sick of losing, the OLine sucks, and Caleb Williams seems like he has a very breakable demeanor. After a few more losses, he might start throwing people under the bus.

 

[justanidiot]

Williams is gonna be a star, bro. If you didn't want Williams, who the hell did ya want?

I was fine with them trading the pick again, that Crosby deal looked real interesting if it were true. Take the third or fourth best game manager to develop behind a veteran this year, someone like Tanehill. People just seem to forget Mahomes was a 10th pick who sat a year. Stroud was not the guy last year, #1 pick is benched for Dalton. Daniels looks like he is going to be cut in half by these rushers. I think Bagent could manage a game, but now with Waldron and big play offense with no short routes to dump the ball to and 2.3 seconds of clean pocket, it would not work anyway. You get a QB to dump the ball off in 2 seconds and those clean pockets become 3-3.2 second pockets that you can work the ball deeper. But we know Bagents weakest part in his game are deep throws.

But dont mind me. This organization was ruined when they traded 3 years of first round picks for cutler and thought Martz greatest show on turf was going to work in december on the mush in Chicago. That is when they changed our identity from Defense and run the ball, to lets compete against teams that play indoors, on turf, and in 70 degree weather.
Hiring the Everfluke moved the needle into finding the great defense part again, but he is not the head coach to develop the next superstar QB. He should be, he should be able to explain every single way a great defense is going to ruin his gamedays, should put him ahead of the game, but this Waldron hiring was as bad as John Schoop.

Yes, coaches suck.

Well, week four and Darnell Wright has a back issue and is out of practice. Which means they most likely pull Prior out to tackle again, we also do not know what is happening with Jones and his knee. Jones left the game and returned, Wright didnt leave got listed after. So sad part is I think Davis is back this week. The bears worked out 2 offensive linemen Tuesday and 5, count them 5 running backs. I know, Tuesday workouts are meets and greets to see if they want to even consider these players down the road, but they really need to alternate Ro and Khalil series and give swift a few third downs. Homer played so much because he was better at pass protection, which I completely understand, until you put the guy in motion and line him up as a WR on the sideline against a linebacker. Herbert or swift win that race, not Homer.
No, we are back to waiting for injuries so they are forced to make the changes that are required.

Rams just beat the 49ers, teams pretty even on the injury depletion. Also terrible against the run, giving up the most points per game in the league.
Lets watch the bear offense end up making the rams look like a top 5 defense.

 

[BsGenius]

I was fine with them trading the pick again, that Crosby deal looked real interesting if it were true. Take the third or fourth best game manager to develop behind a veteran this year, someone like Tanehill. People just seem to forget Mahomes was a 10th pick who sat a year. Stroud was not the guy last year, #1 pick is benched for Dalton. Daniels looks like he is going to be cut in half by these rushers. I think Bagent could manage a game, but now with Waldron and big play offense with no short routes to dump the ball to and 2.3 seconds of clean pocket, it would not work anyway. You get a QB to dump the ball off in 2 seconds and those clean pockets become 3-3.2 second pockets that you can work the ball deeper. But we know Bagents weakest part in his game are deep throws.

But dont mind me. This organization was ruined when they traded 3 years of first round picks for cutler and thought Martz greatest show on turf was going to work in december on the mush in Chicago. That is when they changed our identity from Defense and run the ball, to lets compete against teams that play indoors, on turf, and in 70 degree weather.
Hiring the Everfluke moved the needle into finding the great defense part again, but he is not the head coach to develop the next superstar QB. He should be, he should be able to explain every single way a great defense is going to ruin his gamedays, should put him ahead of the game, but this Waldron hiring was as bad as John Schoop.

Yes, coaches suck.

Well, week four and Darnell Wright has a back issue and is out of practice. Which means they most likely pull Prior out to tackle again, we also do not know what is happening with Jones and his knee. Jones left the game and returned, Wright didnt leave got listed after. So sad part is I think Davis is back this week. The bears worked out 2 offensive linemen Tuesday and 5, count them 5 running backs. I know, Tuesday workouts are meets and greets to see if they want to even consider these players down the road, but they really need to alternate Ro and Khalil series and give swift a few third downs. Homer played so much because he was better at pass protection, which I completely understand, until you put the guy in motion and line him up as a WR on the sideline against a linebacker. Herbert or swift win that race, not Homer.
No, we are back to waiting for injuries so they are forced to make the changes that are required.

Rams just beat the 49ers, teams pretty even on the injury depletion. Also terrible against the run, giving up the most points per game in the league.
Lets watch the bear offense end up making the rams look like a top 5 defense.

So much gibberish. Nothing to see here

 

[BsGenius]

Hopefully, the league isn’t too mean to him about painting his fingernails.

This season has the potential to be the biggest train wreck in Chicago sports history. The defense is very good, but sick of losing, the OLine sucks, and Caleb Williams seems like he has a very breakable demeanor. After a few more losses, he might start throwing people under the bus.

Mark this lol post

 

[justanidiot]

So much gibberish. Nothing to see here

yep, just like all your insight killing threads.

 

[Jiddy]

There was always just one giant hole at OL. You just never understood football

Meanwhile your dumbass would have paid 57 million more to Orlando Brown to perform on Braxton Jones' level.

 

[BsGenius]

Meanwhile your dumbass would have paid 57 million more to Orlando Brown to perform on Braxton Jones' level.

Let’s just get WRs to fix the oline lol. Everyone trying to understand football through the prism of a video game.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

I was fine with them trading the pick again, that Crosby deal looked real interesting if it were true.

Living out here in Vegas and getting more scuttlebut than most Bears fans regarding the Raiders, I can assure you that there was never anything close to them trading Crosby. Not even an inkling of truth. Can't rule out Poles having made some sort of offer, but as for any chance that we could have traded for him, I'd peg it at zero.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Think this is a fair assessment. Plus add in Oline issues and no dependable running game yet. im a super fan when it comes to Jayden but I honestly see Caleb improving every week.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

give him time.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

How much as Caleb improved from the first three games to the last three?

First three games:
Comp pct: 59.3%
TD/INT: 2/4
Rushing: 67 yards
Rating: 65.3

Last three games:
Comp pct: 74.1
TD/INT: 7/1
Rushing: 102 yards
Rating: 122.8

 

[wood20ks]

How much as Caleb improved from the first three games to the last three?

First three games:
Comp pct: 59.3%
TD/INT: 2/4
Rushing: 67 yards
Rating: 65.3

Last three games:
Comp pct: 74.1
TD/INT: 7/1
Rushing: 102 yards
Rating: 122.8

Love his accuracy these days......earlier when he did have time,there were a lot of passes that were not even close.....have not seen that the ladt two games......

Through six games he has 1317 so he’s averaging 219.5 yards/game. At this average he finishes with 3732. But that factors in a 95 yard game to open the season. I don’t see that happening again.....He needs to average 244 yards game to hit that 4000 yd mark. If you take away the TN game he is averaging 244.4 yards per game. I think it just may happen.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Caleb's in the top 50!!
Caleb's in the top 50!!
Caleb's in the top 50!!
In yards gained on the ground.

 

[BeaReylo]

Where Analytics Have Begun Favoring Caleb Williams' Efforts

It took a while but Caleb Williams' numbers have turned in an analytical sense since the hot streak currently enjoyed by the Bears QB began four games ago.

www.si.com

It took a while but Caleb Williams' numbers have turned in an analytical sense since the hot streak currently enjoyed by the Bears QB began four games ago.
Now it seems even the analytics are turning in Caleb Williams' favor, after a rough start.

According to NFL NextGen Stats, Williams is avoiding a rookie tendency to check it down too much, even though he obviously has become more aware of the need to do this over the weeks.
Williams is maintaining a strong average intended air yards of 7.7, which ranks 14th in the league. Rookies who become overly cautious after some interceptions tend to rank poorly at this and the offense can bog down into a short passing attack.
At the same time, Williams is not throwing it recklessly. NextGen's aggressiveness ratiomeasures the percentage of times a QB throws into coverage with a defender within a yard or less of the receiver, and Williams has the sixth-lowest percentage at 10.6% He's in good company here as Patrick Mahomes leads the league at 7%, Lamar Jackson is second (8.1%), Trevor Lawrence fourth (10.4%%) and Jared Goff is one spot below Williams at 10.9%.

In terms of expected points added, another favorite metric, Williams has been drastically better over the last four games. Fantasy football writer Marv Elequin has him fifth in expected points added and seventh in percentage rate with positive EPA during that stretch of games, when Williams has obviously improved.
Based on statistics from from Pro.NFL.Com, CHGO's Nick Moreano sees Williams doing things other Bears QBs of recent vintage have failed at miserably and that's throw over the middle. Justin Fields and Mitchell Trubisky struggled with this, anyway.

The site tracks types of routes and completions. On in-breaking routes like posts, crosses, and slants. The site says Williams has 506 passing yards, three touchdowns and 29.4 EPA on those types of routes which is third most in the NFL. They also say he has averaged 10.8 yards per attempt on in-breaking targets, the most by a rookie QB since 2018.
Where Williams is going next with his game is the question everyone would like to know. Considering how he seemingly adds something each week, the good bet is deep throws and completions, in particular to Rome Odunze.
In an article grading all the NFC teams performances to date, analyst Tyler Brooke of The 33rd Team calls it "scary for opponents," because Williams has accomplished what he has yet is still to execute in his greatest strength from college football. That is the deep pass.
"After dominating throws 20-plus yards downfield in college, according to (Pro Football Focus), Williams has just a 44.1 passer rating on the deep ball, completing 22.2 percent of his passes with four interceptions," Brooke wrote.
Williams and Odunze flashed on one deep connection against the Colts in Week 3 but it's been mostly short or intermediate plays so far for them. PFF has Odunze gradedabove only nine other rookie first-round picks this year despite being drafted ninth overall, and he has 17 catches for 246 yards in 31 targets.
The 14.5-yard average is healthy but Odunze looks capable of much more. Slow-going in stats for Odunze at some points seemed almost a natural as Williams has so many options in the offense and has tended in college to distribute the ball to numerous receivers instead of one or two.

 

[wood20ks]

Where Analytics Have Begun Favoring Caleb Williams' Efforts

It took a while but Caleb Williams' numbers have turned in an analytical sense since the hot streak currently enjoyed by the Bears QB began four games ago.

www.si.com

It took a while but Caleb Williams' numbers have turned in an analytical sense since the hot streak currently enjoyed by the Bears QB began four games ago.
Now it seems even the analytics are turning in Caleb Williams' favor, after a rough start.

According to NFL NextGen Stats, Williams is avoiding a rookie tendency to check it down too much, even though he obviously has become more aware of the need to do this over the weeks.
Williams is maintaining a strong average intended air yards of 7.7, which ranks 14th in the league. Rookies who become overly cautious after some interceptions tend to rank poorly at this and the offense can bog down into a short passing attack.
At the same time, Williams is not throwing it recklessly. NextGen's aggressiveness ratiomeasures the percentage of times a QB throws into coverage with a defender within a yard or less of the receiver, and Williams has the sixth-lowest percentage at 10.6% He's in good company here as Patrick Mahomes leads the league at 7%, Lamar Jackson is second (8.1%), Trevor Lawrence fourth (10.4%%) and Jared Goff is one spot below Williams at 10.9%.

In terms of expected points added, another favorite metric, Williams has been drastically better over the last four games. Fantasy football writer Marv Elequin has him fifth in expected points added and seventh in percentage rate with positive EPA during that stretch of games, when Williams has obviously improved.
Based on statistics from from Pro.NFL.Com, CHGO's Nick Moreano sees Williams doing things other Bears QBs of recent vintage have failed at miserably and that's throw over the middle. Justin Fields and Mitchell Trubisky struggled with this, anyway.

The site tracks types of routes and completions. On in-breaking routes like posts, crosses, and slants. The site says Williams has 506 passing yards, three touchdowns and 29.4 EPA on those types of routes which is third most in the NFL. They also say he has averaged 10.8 yards per attempt on in-breaking targets, the most by a rookie QB since 2018.
Where Williams is going next with his game is the question everyone would like to know. Considering how he seemingly adds something each week, the good bet is deep throws and completions, in particular to Rome Odunze.
In an article grading all the NFC teams performances to date, analyst Tyler Brooke of The 33rd Team calls it "scary for opponents," because Williams has accomplished what he has yet is still to execute in his greatest strength from college football. That is the deep pass.
"After dominating throws 20-plus yards downfield in college, according to (Pro Football Focus), Williams has just a 44.1 passer rating on the deep ball, completing 22.2 percent of his passes with four interceptions," Brooke wrote.
Williams and Odunze flashed on one deep connection against the Colts in Week 3 but it's been mostly short or intermediate plays so far for them. PFF has Odunze gradedabove only nine other rookie first-round picks this year despite being drafted ninth overall, and he has 17 catches for 246 yards in 31 targets.
The 14.5-yard average is healthy but Odunze looks capable of much more. Slow-going in stats for Odunze at some points seemed almost a natural as Williams has so many options in the offense and has tended in college to distribute the ball to numerous receivers instead of one or two.

He has improved dramatically......glad to see it happening.

Im just hoping this weekends game he is unnerved from the exposure of this game.......
Theres a couple of things riding on the line,like a decent defense to face.....Washington is not this so-called term of a team "tomato can" he is gonna face.....
Both teams are in the race for a playoff spot.
Both qbs were drafted 1 and 2 for a reason......
And the ROY Award.....If JD plays,the winner of this game will put them in the lead........

So I hope CW is unfazed by the limelight......