Burnaby Joe says they'll pass on Seth

[forty_three]

I freaking love Duchene...and Landesfox...errrrr Landeskog.

Release the Snork-en!

 

[jstewismybastardson]

interesting discussion on the radio of this being a possible smokescreen as mentioned in prior posts

was Sakic big on blowing smoke/gamesmanship as a player?

and this is Sakics first public comment on a specific hockey matter in his new job ... is that the way he starts his career in the eyes of the other decision makers across the league as the EVP of hockey ops ... by bullshitting them?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Lebrun chalks the Sakic public statement up as a unintended rookie mistake ... good start Joe!!!

 

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Why is it the best GMs seem to be the ones that talk the least (and yes I'm looking at you Jay Feaster).

 

[jstewismybastardson]

little game ... call it "beware the stud dman prospect?"

20 years of drafts ... 20 years of the highest drafted dmen (some who were in the mix to go first overall)

2011 Larsson 4th
2010 Gudbranson 3rd
2009 Hedman 2nd
2008 Doughty 2nd
2007 Hickey 4th
2006 E.Johnson 1st
2005 J.Johnson 3rd
2004 Barker 3rd
2003 Suter 7th
2002 Bouwmeester 3rd
2001 Komisarek 7th
2000 Klesla 4th
1999 Mezei 10th
1998 Stuart 3rd
1997 Brewer 5th
1996 Phillips 1st
1995 Berard 1st
1994 Jovo 1st
1993 Pronger 2nd
1992 Hamrlik 1st


question: without looking who else was drafted around these players in their draft year ... how many would you say could have been drafted later than the position they were picked

 

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little game ... call it "beware the stud dman prospect?"

20 years of drafts ... 20 years of the highest drafted dmen (some who were in the mix to go first overall)

2011 Larsson 4th
2010 Gudbranson 3rd
2009 Hedman 2nd
2008 Doughty 2nd
2007 Hickey 4th
2006 E.Johnson 1st
2005 J.Johnson 3rd
2004 Barker 3rd
2003 Suter 7th
2002 Bouwmeester 3rd
2001 Komisarek 7th
2000 Klesla 4th
1999 Mezei 10th
1998 Stuart 3rd
1997 Brewer 5th
1996 Phillips 1st
1995 Berard 1st
1994 Jovo 1st
1993 Pronger 2nd
1992 Hamrlik 1st


question: without looking who else was drafted around these players in their draft year ... how many would you say could have been drafted later than the position they were picked

The Kings definitely went off the board taking Hickey...Cam Barker, yeesh, the less said the better and JayBo has had an okay career (just overpaid, but that's more on the GMs than him).

/Komisarek went 7th overall, yikes.

 

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adater‏@adater5m

Just talked with Nathan MacKinnon. He really hopes the Avs draft him

Who wouldn't want to go first overall?

/Besides Lindros to Quebec

 

[forty_three]

adater‏@adater5m

Just talked with Nathan MacKinnon. He really hopes the Avs draft him

Who wouldn't want to go first overall?

/Besides Lindros to Quebec

Seriously though, what's the kid gonna say? "Fuck no, everyone hates those assholes."

 

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lol - Oh yeah, forgot about the golden boy.

 

[forty_three]

lol - Oh yeah, forgot about the golden boy (lol)

I am prevented by law to forget.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

little game ... call it "beware the stud dman prospect?"

20 years of drafts ... 20 years of the highest drafted dmen (some who were in the mix to go first overall)

2011 Larsson 4th
2010 Gudbranson 3rd
2009 Hedman 2nd
2008 Doughty 2nd
2007 Hickey 4th
2006 E.Johnson 1st
2005 J.Johnson 3rd
2004 Barker 3rd
2003 Suter 7th
2002 Bouwmeester 3rd
2001 Komisarek 7th
2000 Klesla 4th
1999 Mezei 10th
1998 Stuart 3rd
1997 Brewer 5th
1996 Phillips 1st
1995 Berard 1st
1994 Jovo 1st
1993 Pronger 2nd
1992 Hamrlik 1st


question: without looking who else was drafted around these players in their draft year ... how many would you say could have been drafted later than the position they were picked

Pronger should have gone 1st overall.

The Blues blew it by taking Johnson. They could have had Toews, Kessel, Jordan Staal or Backstrom. At best Johnson should have gone 5th.

 

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Joe Sakic didn't change his tune Thursday when interviewed by ESPN.com, the Colorado Avalanche executive confirming he meant what he said when telling the Denver Post that the club’s intention is select one of the top three forwards available with the first overall pick in the June 30 draft.

Which means passing on blueliner Seth Jones, a Denver native.

"He’s a great player, he’s going to be good," Sakic said over the phone from Denver. "But after we had our internal meetings we came up with these three forwards, (Nathan) McKinnon, (Jonathan) Drouin and (Alexander) Barkov. We’re really leaning towards one of those three forwards.

So to be clear, you'll pick one of those three players, Sakic was asked.

"If we’re picking first overall, yes," he said firmly.

To which some people are responding, "Why tell the world?"

"It was more really for our fans here, to let our fans know what we’re thinking going into the draft,” said Sakic, the Avs' vice president of hockey operations. "That’s really what the purpose was, let them know where we’re leaning. What I said is that we’re picking first overall and this is what we’re doing."

Sakic has been a straight shooter all his life. He’s not the kind of guy to say something and mean the opposite. Still, the impact of his comments could be construed to help the Florida Panthers (No. 2 overall pick) and Tampa Bay Lightning (No. 3) feel more anxious now to perhaps pick up the phone and offer a package to Colorado to move up.

"Honestly, I don’t know what to expect," Sakic said of possible offers for the first pick. "We’ll see when we get there. We're going to do what we feel is best for our organization. If somebody calls, we’ll obviously listen. We’ll do what’s right."

Sakic and old pal Patrick Roy are now running the front office, in charge of trades, etc. So far it’s been a blast, Sakic said.

"It’s exciting. It's a challenge. It’s been great and it's something I'm really looking forward to."

 

[Comeds]

Sakic elaborated "We do no it plan to draft him.....but we won't rule out retiring his number later thius year."

 

[puckhead]

The Blues blew it by taking Johnson. They could have had Toews, Kessel, Jordan Staal or Backstrom. At best Johnson should have gone 5th.

pretty sure that was the year that the Isles offered ALL of their draft picks for the #1 overall.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

pretty sure that was the year that the Isles offered ALL of their draft picks for the #1 overall.

That was 2006. Would Neil Smith do that? It's possible. I haven't heard anything about it. The Isles took Okposo in round 1 that year.

 

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Patrick Roy hints at taking Mackinnon first in NHL draft | Hockey | Sports | Calgary Sun

 

[pixburgher66]

You knoooooow...I just looked at their roster, and as awesome as some of those forward prospects are, man they could use Seth Jones.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

I mean, maybe they plan on trading Duchene for help on D? Maybe Seth Jones is overvalued? I just can't figure out how they can pass him up.

 

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I mean, maybe they plan on trading Duchene for help on D? Maybe Seth Jones is overvalued? I just can't figure out how they can pass him up.

Especially a local kid who would definitely boost attendance (and the Avs need a big boost).

 

[jstewismybastardson]

mirtle had a stats heavy piece last week i think reviewing the past 20 drafts and surmising ... no matter what the level of hype ... highly touted dmen never seem to end up being the superstars that the experts originally think they will be

there are too many dimensions to the position of defenseman to properly evaluate how a junior players career will extrapolate to the nhl ... meanwhile more times than not a generational super skilled forward takes that game to the next level

no one wanted to play my game in post #25