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I stated the other day he made a pre season comment if this does not work out its on him. I like to see that he backs that. Now I hope he can put his pride aside and bring in a real OC
I think he will ride the horse he saddled for the rest of the season before he switches up.
 

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I would like to see Bill O'Brien back myself
A few months ago i would have agreed with you.
After watching Man in the Arena...I'm not sold. B O'B admitted all he had to do was stay out of Brady's way at that point, and call the plays Brady wanted.
 

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A few months ago i would have agreed with you.
After watching Man in the Arena...I'm not sold. B O'B admitted all he had to do was stay out of Brady's way at that point, and call the plays Brady wanted.
I was not aware of his comment. Either way the Bama offense is pretty good, and he has more exp than our current OC
 

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In 2003 we sucked.
Bill walked into coach's meeting and said, "There are only 3 types of people here.
Those with a solution, those who will support those with a solution, and those who will shut the fuck up!"
He was walking into a coach's meeting with good coach's
We have some good coach's - and some that are not cutting it!
There are no ready replacements available.
Any OC we could get now would be for next year.
It would still be a good thing to do for off-season planning and the draft, etc.

Do we steal someone? do we offer a QB's coach a position? find one in college ranks? Hire one that has been fired?
 

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We need fb stat checkers here. Mac just lost back to back games to the Bills and Vikes. Nice job of cherry picking.

Uhm, during the middle of the season Mac ran off three wins in a row. NYJ,IND,NYJ yipee.

Glad to see he's taking care of the ball. Those early INTs were high school level throws. We all know Josh is reckless, that's what makes him Josh.
 

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The more I think about it................

If BB is still GM/HC next year....My suggestion would be to hire either Bill O'Brien or Frank Reich as the OC and make Jerrod Mayo the DC. That is, if he doesn't go somewhere else as a DC, which is probably going to happen. If so, don't let Steve Belichick become the DC. Or get the best college DC and bring him in:

Tony Gibson NC State
Jesse Minter Michigan
Matt House LSU

Just a few of the best coaching a big program.
 

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We need fb stat checkers here. Mac just lost back to back games to the Bills and Vikes. Nice job of cherry picking.

Uhm, during the middle of the season Mac ran off three wins in a row. NYJ,IND,NYJ yipee.

Glad to see he's taking care of the ball. Those early INTs were high school level throws. We all know Josh is reckless, that's what makes him Josh.
Wow Mac lost? Not the Patriots lost but Mac lost? Now who is cherry picking?
 

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Wow Mac lost? Not the Patriots lost but Mac lost? Now who is cherry picking?
Cute, but the comparison was between Mac and Josh not the Bills and Pats.

Did Mac throw those TDs to himself? Get those yards all his own?
 

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Cute, but the comparison was between Mac and Josh not the Bills and Pats.

Did Mac throw those TDs to himself? Get those yards all his own?
I am really uncertain what your argument is? Are you implying the posted numbers are not accurate? Are you implying the losses are the fault of Mac?
 

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I am really uncertain what your argument is? Are you implying the posted numbers are not accurate? Are you implying the losses are the fault of Mac?
Well first you posted out dated numbers. So no they are no longer accurate nor relevant.Thus my bringing up his/NEs 3 game win streak. Apparently this was an attempt to strengthen your Mac isn't the problem agenda. But it failed. Just keeping it real. I see many on here jumping on Ken for posting bs numbers.

I have stated my opinions on what I think the Pats and Mac's problems are on multiple posts.
 

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First 26 games

Josh Allen. 28 TD's. 21 INT'S 4,963 passing yards

Mac Jones. 29 TD'S 20 INT'S. 5,764 passing yards
Playoffs 1st year. Pro Bowl 1st year.

Good thing Buffalo didn't kick Allen to the curb like some Patriots fans want to do with Mac. Will Mac step it up???? Won't know if he's benched. Give him a legit #1 WR. A decent OL and a competent OC and I'm sure he could.
 

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Well first you posted out dated numbers. So no they are no longer accurate nor relevant.Thus my bringing up his/NEs 3 game win streak. Apparently this was an attempt to strengthen your Mac isn't the problem agenda. But it failed. Just keeping it real. I see many on here jumping on Ken for posting bs numbers.

I have stated my opinions on what I think the Pats and Mac's problems are on multiple posts.
How are the numbers outdated? It say's since week eight you do not agree with the accuracy of those numbers since week 8? If you do not then please post the accurate numbers. Also I just copied the image I did not delve into your world of super stats. You seem to want to imply wins and losses are solely on the QB that is an asinine proposal. If the numbers are BS show us all.

NFL players have come out and stated the Pats are hindering Mac, google the recent Kurt Warner comments. Anyone not accepting that coaching is the real issue is likely just being hard headed.
 

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First 26 games

Josh Allen. 28 TD's. 21 INT'S 4,963 passing yards

Mac Jones. 29 TD'S 20 INT'S. 5,764 passing yards
Playoffs 1st year. Pro Bowl 1st year.

Good thing Buffalo didn't kick Allen to the curb like some Patriots fans want to do with Mac. Will Mac step it up???? Won't know if he's benched. Give him a legit #1 WR. A decent OL and a competent OC and I'm sure he could.
Exactly...

I am not even proclaiming Mac is a better QB that Allen, I don't think he is. But the man has very little support at this time, people ignoring that are choosing to be ignorant.
 
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