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breaking down OREGON vs michigan state

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well its a big game for you guys. MSU has a huge investment into this game.

This is just another game for Oregon. We've been in bigger games.

We also have potential for a bigger game a few months from now with USC.

but regardless, of Oregons "BIG" games in recent years, this isn't that big of a one for us. Especially when you know how what the outcome will look like.
Oregon better keep their sights on the game. Last time they were focused too far down the road they didn't want to go to the Rose Bowl, and got their wish.
 

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I think MSU's ranking is overrated. Don't mention anything to the media or the pollsters because it will look better for Oregon. But really, I don't see how Michigan State is better than their team last year.

They lost their WRs
They lost their DC
They lost a lot of their Defensive playmakers

Meanwhile Oregon is just about the same.


Except...

They lost their Heisman winning QB - no biggie
They lost a tackle and guard on the OL - that's not 2/5 of the OL or anything.
They lost a DE1st round - probably not a playmaker.
and they lost a DB

Yeah, they are basically the same. Those are not key positions or anything, especially that QB position.
 

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Wamu this might be a meaningless game for you, but both teams are rated in the top ten.

This is not a meaningless game to me @ all. As a CFB fan I always look forward to all the big time match ups. Just having some fun. Looking forward to what I hope will be a helluva game. And...Go Sparty!
 

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This is not a meaningless game to me @ all. As a CFB fan I always look forward to all the big time match ups. Just having some fun. Looking forward to what I hope will be a helluva game. And...Go Sparty!
Now that's the Wamu I remember!!!:suds:
 

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Except...

They lost their Heisman winning QB - no biggie
They lost a tackle and guard on the OL - that's not 2/5 of the OL or anything.
They lost a DE1st round - probably not a playmaker.
and they lost a DB

Yeah, they are basically the same. Those are not key positions or anything, especially that QB position.
we got Vernon Adams to replace Mariota.

Oregon also reloads, next man up is tradition at Oregon.
 

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Except...

They lost their Heisman winning QB - no biggie
They lost a tackle and guard on the OL - that's not 2/5 of the OL or anything.
They lost a DE1st round - probably not a playmaker.
and they lost a DB

Yeah, they are basically the same. Those are not key positions or anything, especially that QB position.


Strangely enough, QB is probably my area of least concern. The only concern I have on offense is the lack of experience @ WR, which will change when we get our top guys back.

We lost both starting CBs and our starting Free Safety. That's the biggest issue.

I wish we had lost our DC and LB coach, but no such luck.
 

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we got Vernon Adams to replace Mariota.

Oregon also reloads, next man up is tradition at Oregon.
Of course Michigan State has not been reloading our defense. One captain gets suspended for the bowl game we collapse. No one reloads like Oregon does. :L
 

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Against whom?? Not against a PAC12 team in the last two years.
You are skipping posts. I said the Pac as a whole hasn't played defense in the better part of a decade. Stanford has had one here and there, USC had moments until the sanctions, and ASU has had an erratic, but at times smothering D.

Already covered it.
 

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Oregon dismantled USC and Pete Carrolls defenses.
 

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Of course Michigan State has not been reloading our defense. One captain gets suspended for the bowl game we collapse. No one reloads like Oregon does. :L
Ah, you didn't get the OD memo.

First games don't count when it's Oregon because they (and seemingly only they) progress throughout the year. The rest of the college football landscape is predictable (always that Oregon will win mind you) because they are who they have always been.

ONLY Oregon progresses. You must understand this. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
 

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Oregon dismantled USC and Pete Carrolls defenses.
You struggle with context don't you? He talked about the Pac and I responded about the Pac. In general. Defense hasn't been much out of the conference for a while. Nowhere did I say AGAINST OREGON. It is ok to talk about the Pac without them.

Keep up.
 

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You struggle with context don't you? He talked about the Pac and I responded about the Pac. In general. Defense hasn't been much out of the conference for a while. Nowhere did I say AGAINST OREGON. It is ok to talk about the Pac without them.

Keep up.
when has the PAC ever had dominating defenses? It's not a conference known for defense.
 

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:laugh3:

Just hope you dont get slapped around by another B1G team
Ohio State is the only B1G team that has been able to do that lately. Oregon did fine with MSU last year, Wisconsin, Purdue (I know everyone does but thats who Oregon played)
 

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Ohio State is the only B1G team that has been able to do that lately. Oregon did fine with MSU last year, Wisconsin, Purdue (I know everyone does but thats who Oregon played)
shhhh doesn't apply to favor their argument.
 

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when has the PAC ever had dominating defenses? It's not a conference known for defense.
I said at least a decade and it's probably been much longer. UW was all about that defense all up through the late 90's. They won their NT more on that side of the ball. There have been others. It's not unheard of, just hasn't been prevalent for some time and Oregon found a way to exploit it with their trick offense.
 

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I am so sorry...I guess Oregon just fell off the face of the Earth and is terrible now...Forget the last 8 years of being consistently ranked in the top 10, this year its all over. Oregon is gone just like that....Stands no chance.
 

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I said at least a decade and it's probably been much longer. UW was all about that defense all up through the late 90's. They won their NT more on that side of the ball. There have been others. It's not unheard of, just hasn't been prevalent for some time and Oregon found a way to exploit it with their trick offense.
trick offense? You mean the same Offense Washington tried to establish.
 
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