Bout' Time S&C was Brought Front and Center

[Red_Alert]

It's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years now.

For such an integral part of a football program's success, It has remained behind the scenes and imune from open debate. Dobson carries a "Coordinator" title yet doesn't get the critique that Beck and Papuchis get.

I've always asked if it is Dobson's Strength and Conditioning process or is it the proverbial "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"?

Pelini was finally asked about it after practice yesterday and as expected defended Dobson and his process.

Sharp and Benning also spent a good amount of time on it this morning.

I know what Nebraska looked like against other teams physically in the Boyd Epley days, what they looked like under Epley's successor Dave Kennedy (resigned at the end of the HWSNBN era), and now under James Dobson. Since Epley left NU is obviosly not on the same level as the perenial elite teams.

Nebraska's top units (particularly the trenches) haven't passed the eye test in a decade now IMO.

 

[Brasky]

Well it's pretty clear there will be no staff turnover. Not one coach on Bo's staff was contacted by another school... Shocking I know.

Dobson ain't going anywhere.

 

[Brasky]

hashtag Bodybydobson

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

We won't be as big and physical as we used to be until Bo decides to cheat like Osborne did and act like he has no idea that his players are on the juice

 

[Red_Alert]

Well it's pretty clear there will be no staff turnover. Not one coach on Bo's staff was contacted by another school... Shocking I know.

Dobson ain't going anywhere.

Agreed.

Bo justified Dobson's process by saying that it must be right because Suh, Ruud, and Amukamara come back here periodically to work out.

He essentially brushed it off as expected.

 

[Red_Alert]

We won't be as big and physical as we used to be until Bo decides to cheat like Osborne did and act like he has no idea that his players are on the juice

So the lesser talented players of mediocre teams like Wyoming, Northwestern, and Minnesota, who don't have near the facilities, training table, and support that Nebraska has will continue to give the Huskers all they can handle up front?

OK.

 

[Brasky]

"If the answer is, 'That's how we've always done it.' I just want to know the 'why?' " Kelly said. "But just explain why you're doing it. A lot of times . . . people . . . can't explain why they're doing it in a certain manner. If they don't understand how to do it in a certain manner, then they don't know how to fix it when it breaks. I think you've got to have an understanding of what it is." - Chip Kelly

- Bo Pelini

 

[Red_Alert]

Dave Kennedy was bally-hoo'd as being one of the best S&C coordinators when he resigned from Nebraska after HWSNBN was thrown out on his ear. Mike Sherman immediately picked him up at Texas A&M where Kennedy was shown the door when Sumlin took over.

Kennedy has since apparently fallen off the face of the planet.

 

[Red_Alert]

"If the answer is, 'That's how we've always done it.' I just want to know the 'why?' " Kelly said. "But just explain why you're doing it. A lot of times . . . people . . . can't explain why they're doing it in a certain manner. If they don't understand how to do it in a certain manner, then they don't know how to fix it when it breaks. I think you've got to have an understanding of what it is." - Chip Kelly

- Bo Pelini

"I don't know","I wish I knew", "You tell me", "You saw what happened"

Bo Pelini

 

[Red_Alert]

Here's my suspicion regarding James Dobson and it's quite familiar within this program.

He'd NEVER led a Strength and Conditioning program ANYWHERE, before Bo hired him. He'd always been an assistant.

Yet another unproven coordinator on this staff. James Dobson is now entering his 7th year.

 

[bigred472]

Here's my suspicion regarding James Dobson and it's quite familiar within this program.

He'd NEVER led a Strength and Conditioning program ANYWHERE, before Bo hired him. He'd always been an assistant.

Yet another unproven coordinator on this staff. James Dobson is now entering his 7th year.

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Back in the era before Bo, I went to the Ball State game and while we won, it was a bit disconcerting to see players standing on the field hands on hips absolutely winded. Apparently, that's one of our "tradmarks" now because this continues to happen with reapeated frequency.

 

[Papalou]

Really is no two ways around this subject. Our s and c is severely lacking in todays game. Our players are tired if not exhausted by the 3rd quarter and we cant compete with the powerhouses like that.

 

[corn train]

* December is the month when the rumor mill spins at hyper-speed about potential job movement of both head coaches and assistants.

In the case of Husker coaches, Pelini said he has not had contact from any other schools courting any of his assistants.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

So the lesser talented players of mediocre teams like Wyoming, Northwestern, and Minnesota, who don't have near the facilities, training table, and support that Nebraska has will continue to give the Huskers all they can handle up front?

OK.

Shiiiiit....

Those facilities don't give anyone even the slightest advantage.....all they're for is for looks. When the recruits come in and see our shiny workout center, hopefully they forget about all the circular and square shaped corn fields that they saw while flying over the state of Nebraska. That's all those are for.

If you have weights to lift, you can get as strong as you want. The technological advances are really just a joke. It all started with that Boflex machine.

Hell Osborne didn't have an amazing workout center to work with.....but he did have the Peter brothers handing out steroids.

 

[HuskerPower52]

maybe Branch warren could come be our S&c cord. Or if Alabama coaching staff blows up maybe we can get Alabamas snc coach guy is a freak show

 

[Papalou]

Shiiiiit....

Those facilities don't give anyone even the slightest advantage.....all they're for is for looks. When the recruits come in and see our shiny workout center, hopefully they forget about all the circular and square shaped corn fields that they saw while flying over the state of Nebraska. That's all those are for.

If you have weights to lift, you can get as strong as you want. The technological advances are really just a joke. It all started with that Boflex machine.

Hell Osborne didn't have an amazing workout center to work with.....but he did have the Peter brothers handing out steroids.

When Osbourne was here our s and c was cutting edge and our weight room was the biggest in the nation, almost everyone has caught up with us facilities wise and certainly all of the Big programs have. We just need a coordinator to make use of them, however I cant argue with you about the chemical muscle we had under TO

 

[iruletheskool]

Dunno how ye can get winded after 12 minutes of total action over a 3-4 hr time period...

 

[Papalou]

Dunno how ye can get winded after 12 minutes of total action over a 3-4 hr time period...

Its pretty sad

 

[blkflagmafia]

Why do they even bother to ask bo.....you already know what he's gonna say and how defensive he will get.

When Nwestern Wyoming n minny are pushing you around that should cause alarms.

 

[Red_Alert]

Shiiiiit....

Those facilities don't give anyone even the slightest advantage.....all they're for is for looks. When the recruits come in and see our shiny workout center, hopefully they forget about all the circular and square shaped corn fields that they saw while flying over the state of Nebraska. That's all those are for.

If you have weights to lift, you can get as strong as you want. The technological advances are really just a joke. It all started with that Boflex machine.

Hell Osborne didn't have an amazing workout center to work with.....but he did have the Peter brothers handing out steroids.

You are being way too simple. If it's what you allude to, there would be no need to pay a S&C coordinator cause anyone can do benches, curls, and squats.
It's more than just picking up weights. Each position and "player" is unique in what is necessary to get the best performance out of their body type. It's how you lift, it's how many reps at what weight, it's what you eat at the training table. It's motivation and diiscipline to follow the specific training program charted for you.

If Dobson is treating it as you imply (which he isn't), it's no wonder it's failure.

It's up to the the S&C department to evaluate each player to determine what's best to get the best performance out of them. It's also up to that department to motivate each player to have the discipline to follow their specific training chart.

The question is are they being charted, evaluated, and advised properly, or do we have a "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" issue?

Being an unproven anywhere S&C coordinator before he got here, how would anyone know if Dobson is adept in his job? After 6 full years, I'd think the players would be where they need to be by now.