Best Program of All Time

[Al Falfa]

I'd like to throw out there that ND's bowl game record would be better if we didn't skip out on bowl games for 40 years.

Maybe.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Wow. An Alabama fan comes up with a rating system with Alabama #1. Knock me over with a feather.

Apparently by the disdain dripping from some of your posts in here, you dont think Bama has as good a claim as some of the other teams on the list. Not sure I really give a shit, but just curious who you think is the top team and has an iron clad case for it. I think Bama is as good a choice as any and apparently I and a few others are not the only ones.

Funny how no matter what type of thread it it, it always turns into a Bama or SEC bashing thread.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

I'd like to throw out there that ND's bowl game record would be better if we didn't skip out on bowl games for 40 years.

Well they certainly would have played in more, but we cannot say for sure they would have won more than they lost or not without them playing them.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

Apparently by the disdain dripping from some of your posts in here, you dont think Bama has as good a claim as some of the other teams on the list. Not sure I really give a shit, but just curious who you think is the top team and has an iron clad case for it. I think Bama is as good a choice as any and apparently I and a few others are not the only ones.

Funny how no matter what type of thread it it, it always turns into a Bama or SEC bashing thread.

I didn't think there was too much Alabama bashing going on.

In my opinion, there is 3 premium, elite, college football programs, and Alabama is one of them. ND, SC, Bama

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

LOL @ Notre Dame never winning a conference title

 

[NDHoosier101]

Well they certainly would have played in more, but we cannot say for sure they would have won more than they lost or not without them playing them.

No doubt, but 11 of our 17 bowl losses came since 95, adding only 2 wins. We were good in bowl games back in the day.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

I didn't think there was too much Alabama bashing going on.

In my opinion, there is 3 premium, elite, college football programs, and Alabama is one of them. ND, SC, Bama

Just one person who seemed to have a dislike for them being chosen by people. I dont think MY team is tops all time, but they rank in the top 3 easily and could lay claim to being tops all time as much as any of the others on the list.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

No doubt, but 11 of our 17 bowl losses came since 95, adding only 2 wins. We were good in bowl games back in the day.

Yeah and i think not playing in a conference with weekly challenges may have hurt you guys some over the years. I know ND usually tries to play a tough schedule, but having a conference and that rivalry for a CCG or conference title can bring out the best in even the worst teams sometimes in one game a year.

ND is definitely one of the top 3 all time in my opinion though, even with a 40 year drought on bowls.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

Just one person who seemed to have a dislike for them being chosen by people. I dont think MY team is tops all time, but they rank in the top 3 easily and could lay claim to being tops all time as much as any of the others on the list.

I absolutely agree

Specially with their current run.

 

[Bamabino]

Wow. An Alabama fan comes up with a rating system with Alabama #1. Knock me over with a feather.

Not my rating system. No Bama fan would award Ohio State the National Championship in 1961 and 1970 like cfbdatawarehouse does.

 

[963BUSC]

Bowl opponents win/loss records:

Notre Dame (301-54-3)--0.845
USC (425-79-10)--0.837
Nebraska (448-85-8)--0.835
Oklahoma (418-80-8)--0.834
Alabama (524-109-10)--0.823
LSU (390-83-5)--0.821
Miami (FL) (305-64-7)--0.820
Texas (450-98-9)--0.816
Ohio St. (391-86-7)--0.815
Stanford (205-45-5)--0.814
Michigan (374-82-10)--0.813
Florida (354-83-7)--0.805
Tennessee (425-100-9)--0.804
Florida St. (369-91-2)--0.801
Penn St. (384-97-6)--0.795
Arkansas (336-91-5)--0.784
TCU (240-69-2)--0.775
Washington (262-75-9)--0.770
Virginia Tech (226-67-4)--0.768
Missouri (239-72-2)--0.767
Wisconsin (210-64-1)--0.765
Oregon (221-67-3)--0.765
Arizona St. (216-68-1)--0.760
Auburn (306-98-3)--0.756
Georgia (395-125-10)--0.755
California (163-53-5)--0.749
Texas A&M (276-91-7)--0.747
UCLA (263-92-1)--0.740
Pittsburgh (232-81-6)--0.737
Colorado (223-78-6)--0.736
Clemson (284-101-5)--0.735
Iowa (212-75-8)--0.732
Georgia Tech (312-110-13)--0.732
Houston (170-62-2)--0.731
Michigan St. (186-67-9)--0.727
Mississippi (258-95-7)--0.726
Syracuse (187-70-3)--0.725
North Carolina (229-90-1)--0.717
West Virginia (255-100-5)--0.715
Maryland (187-75-5)--0.710
BYU (243-103-5)--0.699
Oklahoma St. (176-76-5)--0.695
Boston College (171-77-0)--0.690
Texas Tech (258-114-9)--0.689
Southern Miss. (155-70-1)--0.688
N.C. State (202-93-7)--0.680
Fresno St. (155-76-5)--0.667
Air Force (170-88-2)--0.658

If this chart is right then SC's bowl record is amazing.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

If this chart is right then SC's bowl record is amazing.

SC's a top 3 program for sure. So much history

 

[963BUSC]

SC's a top 3 program for sure. So much history

Thanks, I think so, but I'd put them at #3, behind Bama and ND.

 

[boxedlunch]

I know it's not your rating system. It belongs to another Alabama fan, who has the sense to give Ohio State the titles that were granted to them in 1961 and 1970.

Again, a rating system written by an Alabama fan that puts Alabama #1 means nothing.

Not my rating system. No Bama fan would award Ohio State the National Championship in 1961 and 1970 like cfbdatawarehouse does.

 

[boxedlunch]

Apparently by the disdain dripping from some of your posts in here, you dont think Bama has as good a claim as some of the other teams on the list. Not sure I really give a shit, but just curious who you think is the top team and has an iron clad case for it. I think Bama is as good a choice as any and apparently I and a few others are not the only ones.

Funny how no matter what type of thread it it, it always turns into a Bama or SEC bashing thread.

I said nothing of the kind. I simply pointed out that rating systems created by fans of the team that they rate are "best" are suspect. I also laugh at Alabama fans who are no emphasising "AP Poll" when for years we were told "Got 12" If you want to address what I say, feel free, don't just act like your under attack because I'm pointing out facts you don't like.

 

[Bamabino]

I know it's not your rating system. It belongs to another Alabama fan, who has the sense to give Ohio State the titles that were granted to them in 1961 and 1970.

Again, a rating system written by an Alabama fan that puts Alabama #1 means nothing.

Fair rating system except for the dumbass that thinks Ohio State won titles in 1961 and 1970 not awarded by the AP or UPI. I know most of their fans claim them. Alabama was the unanimous champ in 1961 giving up only 25 points in 11 games. 1961 OSU was tied by a 3-5-2 TCU team. Texas and Nebraska split the title in 1970. OSU is not even in the discussion.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

I said nothing of the kind. I simply pointed out that rating systems created by fans of the team that they rate are "best" are suspect. I also laugh at Alabama fans who are no emphasising "AP Poll" when for years we were told "Got 12" If you want to address what I say, feel free, don't just act like your under attack because I'm pointing out facts you don't like.

Who do you have #1?

 

[boxedlunch]

Fair rating system except for the dumbass that thinks Ohio State won titles in 1961 and 1970 not awarded by the AP or UPI. I know most of their fans claim them. Alabama was the unanimous champ in 1961 giving up only 25 points in 11 games. 1961 OSU was tied by a 3-5-2 TCU team. Texas and Nebraska split the title in 1970. OSU is not even in the discussion.

"Fair" by what respect? Looks simplistic and biased to me.

Because you view NFF and Football Writers titles as non-titles, does not mean they were. Those titles were treated the EXACT same as the AP and UPI back then. All got reported in the paper and all were viewed basically the same.

That people are now ignorant of their significance in the past does not mean they weren't significant.

 

[Bamabino]

I know it's not your rating system. It belongs to another Alabama fan, who has the sense to give Ohio State the titles that were granted to them in 1961 and 1970.

Again, a rating system written by an Alabama fan that puts Alabama #1 means nothing.

The site is based in Indiana with no Bama connections that I'm aware of.

 

[Bamabino]

"Fair" by what respect? Looks simplistic and biased to me.

Because you view NFF and Football Writers titles as non-titles, does not mean they were. Those titles were treated the EXACT same as the AP and UPI back then. All got reported in the paper and all were viewed basically the same.

That people are now ignorant of their significance in the past does not mean they weren't significant.

With the onset of the AP/UPI era those titles meant nothing. Ohio State is the only team I know of that even claims one after about 1950, and claiming 1961 and 1970 is SHO' ridiculous.