Bengals starting QB for 2015

[cincygrad]

 

[CrashDavisSports]

AJ McCarron is not the answer. Lets move on.

Very possible. Who in NE thought Brady was the answer as a 6th round draft choice replacing Bledsoe?

I imagine McCarron will not be a very good pro-QB, but on the same token, you never know until you see what he has.

He is the only chance we have for change around here, so if I was you I would hope like hell this scenario happens. We are not going to draft a QB high (or even at all), we are not taking anything more than a potential backup in FA.

If you want out from under this cloud of Dalton, McCarron is our only hope within the next several years.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I have no hope. McCarron is not the answer.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I have no hope. McCarron is not the answer.

So now that all hope is lost...who are you going to root for during football season?

 

[DanBengalfan]

It probably wasn't a smart idea to draft an injured QB just because his woman is hot.

oh never mind... yes, yes it was. good move Mike!!!

 

[Tubbs1518]

So now that all hope is lost...who are you going to root for during football season?

Just because I have no hope doesn't mean I won't root for them. I didn't have hope this year either.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I hate to say it, because I wish no injury on players, especially our own team, but we need a Bledsoe / Brady situation here. I am not saying Dalton is as good as Bledsoe or McCarron is as good as Brady, I just think this offense needs extended play from McCarron to find out if Dalton is truly the problem with this offense. Not going to be easy playing musical offensive coordinators if this keeps happening though.

If Dalton gets hurt, it out for 6 to 8 weeks, McCarron can play just as good and show improvement, Dalton is done, if McCarron can't show anything, then we know we still need to draft at least a capable backup to push Dalton.

I don't know if McCarron is the physical talent that Dalton is, but he's performed well on the highest stage in CFB...probably won't wet the bed or make the big mistake in the big games. I do agree that it makes sense to bring have a draft pick to at least make Dalton think he's safe...as it is now...Dalton's job is as safe as any elite QB in the league....and to your underlying point...that shouldn't be the case given his accomplishment in big games.

Tough spot for the FO and the coaches...he hasn't played badly enough to say, we need to get rid of this guy, but at the same time, some people in those same circles probably feel as if Dalton is not the guy to take them all the way.

 

[jgreene95]

If Hundley is there when we pick and pass on him. We are fucked.

 

[Tubbs1518]

No chance I'd take Hundley in the first.

 

[DanBengalfan]

realistically, I wouldn't expect them to take Hundley in the first round.

What do you do with Dalton and McCarron after that?
wouldn't it be too late to waive McCarron and try to put him on the PS?
wouldn't some other team be able to take him?

It would be too much like admitting a mistake for the Bengals to take Hundley in the first, unless they are going to work some magic to get rid of Dalton for picks. too much work for the Bengals front office.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Here's our answer. Enjoy!

The Bengals have yet to etch their 2015 plans into stone, but it looks like for now they’re going to go with the same three quarterbacks and there’s no doubt that Andy Dalton is leading the way.

So never mind the first round. Don’t expect a quarterback taken in the other six rounds, either.

“He’s our guy and we’re not going to shy away from that,” says Bengals offensive coordinator Hue Jackson of Dalton and quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese offers, “He was better with the intangibles this year and the ball was better coming out of his hand. You could see that right away when he came back from the last offseason.”

 

[DanBengalfan]

Here's our answer. Enjoy!

The Bengals have yet to etch their 2015 plans into stone, but it looks like for now they’re going to go with the same three quarterbacks and there’s no doubt that Andy Dalton is leading the way.

So never mind the first round. Don’t expect a quarterback taken in the other six rounds, either.

“He’s our guy and we’re not going to shy away from that,” says Bengals offensive coordinator Hue Jackson of Dalton and quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese offers, “He was better with the intangibles this year and the ball was better coming out of his hand. You could see that right away when he came back from the last offseason.”

Right, to admit otherwise for those guys would be the same as admitting failure.

I don't see us keeping Campbell though. If we keep Campbell, McCarron goes through waivers and we lose McCarron, and I can't imagine that he looks that bad in practice that we'd risk losing him already.

Dalton will be the starter
McCarron will be the backup, he might even have more upside than Dalton, but he's not the type of QB you rush into the starting job.
an undrafted FA will be the PS guy.
if someone gets injured we'll sign a free agent... like Campbell, or someone else in low demand.

of course there's always the chance the Mike Brown will pull the trigger on Hundley, but we all know the QBs will get rated higher the closer the draft gets here, so it's unlikely he is available unless we trade up.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Right, to admit otherwise for those guys would be the same as admitting failure.

I don't see us keeping Campbell though. If we keep Campbell, McCarron goes through waivers and we lose McCarron, and I can't imagine that he looks that bad in practice that we'd risk losing him already.

Dalton will be the starter
McCarron will be the backup, he might even have more upside than Dalton, but he's not the type of QB you rush into the starting job.
an undrafted FA will be the PS guy.
if someone gets injured we'll sign a free agent... like Campbell, or someone else in low demand.

of course there's always the chance the Mike Brown will pull the trigger on Hundley, but we all know the QBs will get rated higher the closer the draft gets here, so it's unlikely he is available unless we trade up.

Problem is, they don't believe they have failed. So to admit anything to the contrary, is not realistic.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Problem is, they don't believe they have failed. So to admit anything to the contrary, is not realistic.

I'm not sure they would ever openly diss their starting QB after 4 straight playoff seasons. It's just not good management. But his contract is structured the way it is for a reason.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I'm not sure they would ever openly diss their starting QB after 4 straight playoff seasons. It's just not good management. But his contract is structured the way it is for a reason.

It is. And while we will all point to the ability to cut bait with Dalton...Brown will simply look at how cheap the rest of his contract is (With no playoff wins, etc...it's not going to trigger anythign down the road) and point to having a playoff QB at a fraction of the price.

 

[Tubbs1518]

It is. And while we will all point to the ability to cut bait with Dalton...Brown will simply look at how cheap the rest of his contract is (With no playoff wins, etc...it's not going to trigger anythign down the road) and point to having a playoff QB at a fraction of the price.

Not nearly as cheap as a 1st round rookie for the next 5 years. Dalton will still make somewhere around 17-18 mil a year I'd imagine.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Not nearly as cheap as a 1st round rookie for the next 5 years. Dalton will still make somewhere around 17-18 mil a year I'd imagine.

Agreed, but Dalton has playoff experience...so, he'll be making bottom 20 QB money while taking them to the playoffs for 1 game...that exposure is probably worth the slight difference between the contracts.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Agreed, but Dalton has playoff experience...so, he'll be making bottom 20 QB money while taking them to the playoffs for 1 game...that exposure is probably worth the slight difference between the contracts.

The way Dalton has played in the playoffs, he has as much playoff experience as the fans in the stands watching. LOL Actually, some of the fans were less detrimental to the team than Dalton was.

At any rate, you are right. He is a guy that has won 9, 10, 11, 10 games during regular season, got us to the playoffs 4 straight years...Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis...they are not going to go any other route.

If we resign Campbell, you may as well hope Dalton stays healthy. If McCarron becomes the backup, you almost have to hope for a lengthy injury (6-8 weeks) to see if McCarron can do anything. He doesn't profile well for a NFL QB, but he has the intangibles that you can't teach, the fire, drive, passion, devotion, dedication, leadership, plus, he is a winner from a college program that accepts nothing less than the best of their players.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Agreed, but Dalton has playoff experience...so, he'll be making bottom 20 QB money while taking them to the playoffs for 1 game...that exposure is probably worth the slight difference between the contracts.

next year he is the 18th highest paid QB, they in 2016 he is the 13th, then in 2017 he is the 11th. Not bottom 20 money.

 

[DanBengalfan]

This is how I see Andy Dalton fans: