Bengals cap space

[augustisback003]

The NFL has announced that the 2014 will be $130 million which would be $7 million higher than previously projected giving the Bengals approximately $23 million in cap space which means if the Team chose to do so they would have enough room to sign both Michael Johnson and Anthony Collins.

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There may be hope for you yet, Cincinnati Bengals fans.

Maybe, just maybe, Michael Johnson and Anthony Collins will be wearing stripes again this fall.

Thursday's news from ESPN Insider Adam Schefter that the NFL is planning to bump the 2014 league salary cap from around $123 million to about $130 million could have big implications for franchises like the Bengals. Ahead of the free-agency period that begins next month, the Bengals are trying to figure out ways that they can retain both their high-priced defensive end and the backup offensive tackle who is due a big pay raise.

A 5 percent increase to the team's spending limit may be just enough to make both moves happen.

The key word there is "may." Even with the additional $7 million, the Bengals have other free agents to pay and draft picks yet to sign. Not to mention, they want to remain as far under the cap as is still competitively possible, while also beginning to save enough to re-sign next year's rather hefty list of looming free-agent targets. As a result, they could end up coming just short of being able to land their biggest free-agent targets.

According to ESPN's Roster Management system, the Bengals currently sit about $20 million shy of the proposed new salary-cap mark. As of the latest update to the Roster.

Salary-cap bump could be big for Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

 

[The Duke]

Forget Johnson and Collins, sign Alex Mack

 

[alf8478]

Michael Johnson is probably already shopping for houses in Minnesota.

I don't understand why they wouldn't use the Transition tag on Collins. Basically it gives Collins the ability to test the market, sign a deal/offer sheet and the Bengals have so many days to match. It sounds like they're going to let him test the market, and if he gets a crazy deal, they'll move on, but the tag would at least give them a chance to keep him.
And yes Alex Mack. Pretty please!!

 

[DanBengalfan]

we won't end up with any of the above.

The way the Bengals look at the salary cap.

they look at the minimum they have to spend without having to pay a penalty to the NFL, that is what they call the salary cap. so when the Bengals say "we are spending to the cap", that's what they mean.

Bengalese is fun.

 

[DanBengalfan]

For each of the following four-League Year periods, 201 3-201 6 and 2017-2020, there shall be a guaranteed Minimum Team Cash Spending of 89% of theSalary Caps for such periods

so the Bengals adjusted salary cap (in Bengalese) is 115 million up from 107.69 million
they will use the extra 8$ to extend Cayenne Peppa's contract and sign draft picks.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Here is a blurb on who could be cut, and what the savings would be:

Player: Dead Money/Savings/Difference

Domata Peko - $0 / $4,165,000 / $4,165,000
Robert Geathers $0 / $2,700,000 / $2,700,000
Jermaine Gresham $1,221,250 / $3,610,750 / $2,389,500
Andrew Whitworth $2,000,000 / $4,200,000 / $2,200,000
Terence Newman $0 / $2,000,000 / $2,000,000
BenJarvus Green $500,000 / $2,500,000 / $2,000,000
Reggie Nelson $1,250,000 /$3,225,000 / $1,975,000
Adam Jones $500,000 /2,300,000 / $1,800,000
Mike Nugent $0 /$1,400,000 /$1,400,000

 

[alf8478]

Here is a blurb on who could be cut, and what the savings would be:

Player: Dead Money/Savings/Difference

Domata Peko - $0 / $4,165,000 / $4,165,000
Robert Geathers $0 / $2,700,000 / $2,700,000
Jermaine Gresham $1,221,250 / $3,610,750 / $2,389,500
Andrew Whitworth $2,000,000 / $4,200,000 / $2,200,000
Terence Newman $0 / $2,000,000 / $2,000,000
BenJarvus Green $500,000 / $2,500,000 / $2,000,000
Reggie Nelson $1,250,000 /$3,225,000 / $1,975,000
Adam Jones $500,000 /2,300,000 / $1,800,000
Mike Nugent $0 /$1,400,000 /$1,400,000

That's great, let's cut 3/4 of the starting secondary.

 

[bengaldoug]

They could cut Gresham and Peko and be no worse, and maybe better......

 

[Cincyfan78]

That's great, let's cut 3/4 of the starting secondary.

Clearly you wouldn't cut all of those people, or just at one position...

the point was, these are the players were IF you wanted to cut some salary, they would have the biggest impact on total savings towards the cap.

This was in response to a rumor that the Bengals were considering cutting Dunlap, but that would actually COST the Bengals nearly 6MM towards the cap, thus having a negative impact on the cap instead of a positive.

So, IF the Bengals were to look to cut, you could mix/match and find a way to save soem money if they really felt they needed to.

 

[alf8478]

Clearly you wouldn't cut all of those people, or just at one position...

the point was, these are the players were IF you wanted to cut some salary, they would have the biggest impact on total savings towards the cap.

This was in response to a rumor that the Bengals were considering cutting Dunlap, but that would actually COST the Bengals nearly 6MM towards the cap, thus having a negative impact on the cap instead of a positive.

So, IF the Bengals were to look to cut, you could mix/match and find a way to save soem money if they really felt they needed to.

I saw that same list posted online somewhere, so I know it wasn't your recommendations, I probably should have clarified that.

 

[Cincyfan78]

They could cut Gresham and Peko and be no worse, and maybe better......

I think they would still need to find another DT. Thompson has done ok, but Still has a lot to prove this year. Outside of Atkins coming back from surgery, you don't have another full-time DT on the roster.

Gresham isn't going to be cut.

I think you could try and restructure Whitworth at a Guard's salary if you wanted to try that route and re-sign Collins for LT.

You could also Cut BJGE and find another RB to split time with GB, who should be getting about 75% of the snaps anyway.

If you could save 1MM with a restructure of Whit, and 2MM with BJGE being cut, that's 3MM ontop of the additonal raise in the Salary cap of nearly 7MM, and you have an extra 10MM towards keeping Collins. The tag would run roughly 9-11MM I would think for a LT...

Of course, if they sign AJ or Burfict to an extension this off-season, they could lower this year's cap # by paying out bonuses in the first year or two of the contracts and prorate those through the life of the deal as well.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I saw that same list posted online somewhere, so I know it wasn't your recommendations, I probably should have clarified that.

It was on the Enquirer, and it was in response to the rumor about cutting Dunlap and how it made no sense (in money terms) to do that.

The list would be the biggest impact towards cap space, I believe, regardless of anything else. Just impact.

 

[bengaldoug]

Of course I know they love Peko and Gresham. But Peko is ineffective at what he's supposed to be, a run stopper, and we all know Gresham's limitations. Funny how two places where they could save the most cap space while improving the team at the same time are the two players least likely to be cut.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Of course I know they love Peko and Gresham. But Peko is ineffective at what he's supposed to be, a run stopper, and we all know Gresham's limitations. Funny how two places where they could save the most cap space while improving the team at the same time are the two players least likely to be cut.

Agreed. I think with Peko it's more of a "depth" thing than anything else. Outside of Atkins and Thompson, who else do they have that is a full-time DT that has any real experience? Still, so far, hasn't done squat.

Gresham could go, and the only people who would care are those who still think he is a 1st rounder, and don't see beyond the numbers.

 

[bengaldoug]

I look at Peko the same way I look at Geathers. They are both "company men", which is their best asset to the team, loyalty. That's their main value as players. They know the system, they lead by example, but both are only mediocre players.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Peko is our best fullback, lol

 

[Cincyfan78]

Peko is our ONLY fullback, lol

 

[cincygrad]

Clearly you wouldn't cut all of those people, or just at one position...

the point was, these are the players were IF you wanted to cut some salary, they would have the biggest impact on total savings towards the cap.

This was in response to a rumor that the Bengals were considering cutting Dunlap, but that would actually COST the Bengals nearly 6MM towards the cap, thus having a negative impact on the cap instead of a positive.

So, IF the Bengals were to look to cut, you could mix/match and find a way to save soem money if they really felt they needed to.

At what point does something have to be SO stupid that we don't even reference it as a rumor?

I'm all for this idea that everyone can be a writer and have a 'blog' but it's just asinine that someone that lives in their mother's basement can throw such a huge turd against the wall and see if it sticks long enough for someone to stop by and get a whiff.

Dunlap was paid with a big signing bonus to sign a deal that locks him up for a reasonable rate for a guy with his skills as he moves into his prime. If anything, he actually IMPROVED after signing his deal. Unless he murdered someone or is banging Katie's husband, he isn't going anywhere.

 

[Cincyfan78]

At what point does something have to be SO stupid that we don't even reference it as a rumor?

I'm all for this idea that everyone can be a writer and have a 'blog' but it's just asinine that someone that lives in their mother's basement can throw such a huge turd against the wall and see if it sticks long enough for someone to stop by and get a whiff.

Dunlap was paid with a big signing bonus to sign a deal that locks him up for a reasonable rate for a guy with his skills as he moves into his prime. If anything, he actually IMPROVED after signing his deal. Unless he murdered someone or is banging Katie's husband, he isn't going anywhere.

With today's internet/twitter/Facebook and 24/7 ability to monitor what is out there, just about anything anymore catches fire. All it takes is a few likes, or retweets or whatever, and the next thing you know some outlet has picked it up and it spreads even more.

I agree, with you though. Some "rumors" just need to simply be ignored, but it did bring up a way to look at potential players to cut and what the savings would be.

 

[augustisback003]

And the news just keeps getting better! The cap is now reported to be $133 million.

excerpt~ "The NFL’s salary cap could be set in the range of about $133 million per team for the 2014 season, according to a person familiar with the deliberations [...] The league and the players’ union are working to set the final salary cap figure and the person familiar with the deliberations said it is “looking in [the] range of $133 [million].” According to that person, the final cap figure should be determined in a “matter of days."

NFL salary cap could be set around $133 million per team