Beating A Live Horse: One Redskin Fan's Cessation Of Protesting The Name

[Sharkinva]

zimmerman did one thing a good soldier should do , shark and he left only one side of the story to be told to me zimmerman committed a crime . what the crime is is open to debate

A good Solder also follows the orders of his superiors. The moment he was told to stand down, and continued to press the issue, he went off reservation and lost all benefit of the doubt in my book. Had Martin walked up and confronted him in his truck, he would have been justified. The minute he went off reservation, he lost all credibility. And the only thing he deserves in my book is a slow painful death.

 

[skinsdad62]

A good Solder also follows the orders of his superiors. The moment he was told to stand down, and continued to press the issue, he went off reservation and lost all benefit of the doubt in my book. Had Martin walked up and confronted him in his truck, he would have been justified. The minute he went off reservation, he lost all credibility. And the only thing he deserves in my book is a slow painful death.

like i said he committed a crime , what one is open to debate . zimmerman's actions actions after the trial make me believe he is full of shit but at the time that hadnt come to light

 

[gkekoa]

You know I actually agree. Except for the fact that the only person who can comment on this is DEAD. So forgive me if Im not too willing to believe the guy who walked into the fight with the gun felt in fear of his life. Maybe its the Marine in me, the black guy in me or both.. but if you follow me, confront me and I feel you mean to do me harm.... damn right Im going to try and crack your skull and make sure you cant come after me again.

Excuse me...what evidence is there that Zimmerman meant to harm Trayvon? Unless, you mean he wanted Trayvon to be guilty of a crime and arrested, which is possible.

 

[gkekoa]

Trayvon had every right to defend himself against some one he considered an imminent threat to him. Now sure if you forget about the fact that Zimmerman followed him in his truck, then got out and confronted him first... then yes Martin was totally in the wrong. But remember the only persons word we have for how the confrontation went down is Zimmerman. BUt if you are telling me, I am justified in picking a fight then shooting some one when I realize Im getting my ass beat.... well IM shocked gun sales havent tripled since Goerge got off.

Zimmerman did not follow him in his truck. He got out of his truck. Can you show us the evidence he confronted Trayvon? Show the evidence that Zimmerman picked the fight.

So you think a person getting their ass beat isn't justified to use deadly force? Tell that to the girl in the Delaware bathroom.

 

[gkekoa]

You do realize, this is like telling a r*pe victim.. i realize you were taken against your will and abused in ways most people couldnt imagine... But hey you got that kid you always wanted out of the deal.. so smile.

My point being, this country can NEVER make amends for what was done to the Native American, or the African's who were subjected to slavery. But to sit there and say, hey you benefited out of it in the end and you should just get over it is a joke. I dont even want the country to try and make amends, but I find it deplorable when people try and justify and minimize what did actually happen. We should feel guilty about the how this country came to being. And trying to minimize or justify it just makes it that much worse in my opinion.

The Indians who were wronged are long since dead. Their cases are dead as well.

Blacks...and whites...subjected to slavery are all dead and have been so for decades.

Why should we feel guilty about this country when slavery existed in EVERY country in the world. EVERY race has been enslaved at some point. EVERY race has owned slaves at some point. Slavery was legal in Africa and the blacks in Africa sold other blacks into slavery...to both white and black people.

So no...I do not and will not feel guilty about people in the past being enslaved by other people in the past...none of which I know. I do not feel bad for a black person today about their ancestors being enslaved. I don't feel guilty about black crime, black family disintegration, or blacks staying in the ghetto generation after generation. Just like I don't care about white crime, white family disintegration, or whites staying in trailer parks generation after generation. I will be glad when all the excuses are done.

 

[gkekoa]

Got to disagree, because again we do not know if Martin felt his life was in danger. Thus he was justified in using deadly force. Zimmerman knew he had a gun, thus any defense of imminent danger SHOULD have gone out the window. ONly by ignoring the crimes Zimmerman committed before the altercation, can you come ot the conclusion that he had a right to defend himself.

Can you tell me the crimes that Zimmerman committed? I didn't know he was charged with anything.

 

[Stymietee]

The Indians who were wronged are long since dead. Their cases are dead as well.

Blacks...and whites...subjected to slavery are all dead and have been so for decades.

Why should we feel guilty about this country when slavery existed in EVERY country in the world. EVERY race has been enslaved at some point. EVERY race has owned slaves at some point. Slavery was legal in Africa and the blacks in Africa sold other blacks into slavery...to both white and black people.

So no...I do not and will not feel guilty about people in the past being enslaved by other people in the past...none of which I know. I do not feel bad for a black person today about their ancestors being enslaved. I don't feel guilty about black crime, black family disintegration, or blacks staying in the ghetto generation after generation. Just like I don't care about white crime, white family disintegration, or whites staying in trailer parks generation after generation. I will be glad when all the excuses are done.

I honestly wish you would stop saying that, you have no footing that supports your first two lines.

 

[Stymietee]

Can you tell me the crimes that Zimmerman committed? I didn't know he was charged with anything.

It's not yet on the books, but he committed the crime of privilege, (see "Affluenza teen") we all know it when we see it and pretend that it only exists among the wealthy!

 

[Sharkinva]

It's not yet on the books, but he committed the crime of privilege, (see "Affluenza teen") we all know it when we see it and pretend that it only exists among the wealthy!

NOt to mention he committed Assault

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tortlaw.

And lets not forget harassment

It's worth pointing out that, while laws vary from state to state, followingsomeone is not only a gross invasion of privacy, but can also be illegalif it can be interpreted either as stalking or harassment in your area

So there you go.

 

[Stymietee]

NOt to mention he committed Assault

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tortlaw.

And lets not forget harassment

It's worth pointing out that, while laws vary from state to state, followingsomeone is not only a gross invasion of privacy, but can also be illegalif it can be interpreted either as stalking or harassment in your area

So there you go.

Agreed, based on the laws of Florida at the time and present, Martin had every right to Stand his ground. Jackass wanted to test himself while armed, now he knows that he's capable but that comes with added danger of someone now popping his ass and living to tell a much more believable story because he set the precedent.

 

[Sharkinva]

Agreed, based on the laws of Florida at the time and present, Martin had every right to Stand his ground. Jackass wanted to test himself while armed, now he knows that he's capable but that comes with added danger of someone now popping his ass and living to tell a much more believable story because he set the precedent.

Stand your ground only applies if you are standing your ground against some one of a lower ethnic standing than you apparently.

 

[redskinsfan]

NOt to mention he committed Assault

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tortlaw.

And lets not forget harassment

It's worth pointing out that, while laws vary from state to state, followingsomeone is not only a gross invasion of privacy, but can also be illegalif it can be interpreted either as stalking or harassment in your area

So there you go.

Paul Blart may have been guilty of some crime but he wasn't guilty of murder.

 

[Sharkinva]

Paul Blart may have been guilty of some crime but he wasn't guilty of murder.

He committed Assault and invasion of privacy leading up to killing some one. Murder no because that requires intent. But man slaughter comes to mind. Just because the prosecution screwed up and didnt charge him with either does not mean he was innocent.

 

[redskinsfan]

I honestly wish you would stop saying that, you have no footing that supports your first two lines.

Have you ever heard of the statute of limitations? If not, you're basic getting into reparations, which I've got a few choice words for.

 

[redskinsfan]

He committed Assault and invasion of privacy leading up to killing some one. Murder no because that requires intent. But man slaughter comes to mind. Just because the prosecution screwed up and didnt charge him with either does not mean he was innocent.

Use of reasonable force, even if deadly force, will beat a manslaughter charge too. I have no idea why anyone would hitch their wagon to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown in their quest for social justice. Both deaths, while tragic, were clearly justified. If you want to a better example, talk about the black guy that a South Carolina cop shot around eight times in the back. I can't tell you how much credibility you lose when using those two as posters boys for your movement.

 

[Stymietee]

Have you ever heard of statute of limitations? If not, you're basic getting into reparations, which I've got a few choice words for.

This has nothing to do with SOL, nor reparations, just that he seems to be saying that everyone is dead who were slaves or NA's who were slaughtered because of Manifest Destiny. I absolutely challenge that stance!!

 

[Sharkinva]

Use of reasonable force, even if deadly force, will beat a manslaughter charge too. I have no idea why anyone would hitch their wagon to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown in their quest for social justice. Both deaths, while tragic, were clearly justified. If you want to a better example, talk about the black guy that a South Carolina cop shot around eight times in the back. I can't tell you how much credibility you lose when using those two as posters boys for your movement.

Again, tell me what exactly Trayvon Martin did wrong aside from walking while black, and defending himself when he felt threatened?? Its all grat for society when Zimmerman can say.. I wasnt the aggressor. But if you were accosted from behind in the dark by someone you didnt know, would you feel justified in using deadly force?? Martin did exactly what I would have done in the same situation. And to try and say Zimmerman was justified is complete and utter bullshit.

 

[redskinsfan]

This has nothing to do with SOL, nor reparations, just that he seems to be saying that everyone is dead who were slaves or NA's who were slaughtered because of Manifest Destiny. I absolutely challenge that stance!!

He's talking about the centuries old claims that Native Americans and others may have against their subjugators. Whatever the merits of those claims may be, they're ancient history. That's not to say that we should forget it or distance ourselves from those dark chapters in our history, but there's nothing we can do it about now.

 

[redskinsfan]

Again, tell me what exactly Trayvon Martin did wrong aside from walking while black, and defending himself when he felt threatened?? Its all grat for society when Zimmerman can say.. I wasnt the aggressor. But if you were accosted from behind in the dark by someone you didnt know, would you feel justified in using deadly force?? Martin did exactly what I would have done in the same situation. And to try and say Zimmerman was justified is complete and utter bullshit.

Then you don't understand some basic legal principles. Zimmerman was justified in using deadly force to protect against Trayvon Martin's use of deadly force against him. How you can't see that is baffling.

 

[Stymietee]

He's talking about the centuries old claims that Native Americans and others may have against their subjugators. Whatever the merits of those claims may be, they're ancient history. That's not to say that we should forget it or distance ourselves from those dark chapters in our history, but there's nothing we can do it about now.

So, you too believe that it's ancient history....sad!