Beating A Live Horse: One Redskin Fan's Cessation Of Protesting The Name

[Stymietee]

The only part of your obscure dissertation that made any sense was about the stolen land. If that's true, anyone owning land in the US should have it forfeited. Isn't that about right, stymie?

Yep...unless you can figure out a way to make the previous owners whole, isn't that what the our laws were created to do?

 

[Stymietee]

Slavery DID officially end with the adoption of the 13th Amendment. Prejudice, oppression, Jim Crow and its residual effects didn't. And you lived through Jim Crow? Do you realize that Jim Crow started with the compromise between the Democrats and Republicans in the election of 1867?

The more important question is ....When did it (Jim Crow) end?

 

[redskinsfan]

Yep...unless you can figure out a way to make the previous owners whole, isn't that what the our laws were created to do?

In general, yes. But with victims that have been long since dead and gone, the law generally doesn't provide relief for that. Again, are you on some reparations bandwagon now?

 

[gkekoa]

I'm still alive and lived through Jim Crow, where the only difference technically was the selling of human cargo. Do you actually, believe that Slavery ended in 1865? REALLY???

Wow...you are delusional. All good. Jim Crow does not equal slavery. Speaking as such...why do you support libtards that pushed Jim Crow? Wait...you probably think they changed.

Do you really believe it improves your life to blame people for the problems of the black community who actually think blacks can help themselves because we see them as equal?

 

[redskinsfan]

The more important question is ....When did it (Jim Crow) end?

Answer the question: are you honestly saying you lived through Jim Crow, including its inception in 1876? And I won't argue that there are still some residual effects of Jim Crow today.

 

[redskinsfan]

Wow...you are delusional. All good. Jim Crow does not equal slavery. Speaking as such...why do you support libtards that pushed Jim Crow? Wait...you probably think they changed.

Do you really believe it improves your life to blame people for the problems of the black community who actually think blacks can help themselves because we see them as equal?

I like how stymie mentioned eugenics. Does he know who really started that up? It's the progressives, who he probably worships.

 

[Stymietee]

In general, yes. But with victims that have been long since dead and gone, the law generally doesn't provide relief for that. Again, are you on some reparations bandwagon now?

Didn't Ronald Reagan sign into law reparation for Japanese interred in camps? I'm not on a reparation bandwagon, just responding to your question which are leading counselor!

 

[Sharkinva]

Newsflash, shark: in every murder case, the guy who got killed can't testify as to what happened. And your view that most people will curl up to protect themselves is nothing but rank speculation on your part. Whatever the merits or lack thereof of that view may be, Zimmerman discharged his sidearm. There's NO evidence he intended to reach for his gun in the first place. And even if he did, the evidence still supports his use of deadly force despite your wildly speculative theory of his mindset.

Statements like this is why every one in my house has a permit to carry concealed, and all have tech9's. Because none of my sons will be the next Trayvon. I would much rather they "Stand their ground" than become the next kid walking home and be accosted by some one who thought they didnt belong. But thanks for re-enforcing my thoughts on this.

 

[redskinsfan]

Didn't Ronald Reagan sign into law reparation for Japanese interred in camps? I'm not on a reparation bandwagon, just responding to your question which are leading counselor!

Reparations were appropriate for them because they were the living and direct victims of the interment camps established by that wonderful icon of the Democratic party, FDR.

 

[redskinsfan]

Statements like this is why every one in my house has a permit to carry concealed, and all have tech9's. Because none of my sons will be the next Trayvon. I would much rather they "Stand their ground" than become the next kid walking home and be accosted by some one who thought they didnt belong. But thanks for re-enforcing my thoughts on this.

And if they use those weapons to kill someone that doesn't pose an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death, they''ll be doing a lot of time in the pen. Just a bit of advice.

 

[Sharkinva]

And if they use those weapons to kill someone that doesn't pose an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death, they''ll be doing a lot of time in the pen. Just a bit of advice.

Trust me, if they pull it and use it... much like Trayvon.. there wont be any one to contest that they felt their life was in danger. Funny how that works.

 

[redskinsfan]

Trust me, if they pull it and use it... much like Trayvon.. there wont be any one to contest that they felt their life was in danger. Funny how that works.

Newsflash II: in all murder cases, the guy that was killed can't testify as to what happened. However, there's something called direct and/or circumstantial evidence. That comes in many forms: witnesses, forensic evidence such as DNA, and trace evidence. That can often substitute nicely for the witness the dead guy can't be. And if there's enough of that if your son or anyone else pulls the trigger without justification, they'll be spending a lot of time in the pen.

 

[gkekoa]

For all those who believe they are wronged by the system...

Are you prevented by law from succeeding?
If you do well in school, are you allowed to go to college?
If you are qualified, can you be hired for any position?
Can you become POTUS?

Stop making excuses and do your best. Stop making excuses for others and encourage them to do their best.

 

[Sharkinva]

Newsflash II: in all murder cases, the guy that was killed can't testify as to what happened. However, there's something called direct and/or circumstantial evidence. That comes in many forms: witnesses, forensic evidence such as DNA, and trace evidence. That can often substitute nicely for the witness the dead guy can't be. And if there's enough of that if your son or anyone else pulls the trigger without justification, they'll be spending a lot of time in the pen.

Totally agree. As my sons are not white, they had best have air tight evidence that they felt their life was in danger. But once again I have to say... its funny how that works out dont you think? But I would much rather visit them in the pen, then watch another piece of Crap like Zimmerman walk based on the idea that he figured they must be up to no good based on their skin color.

 

[redskinsfan]

Totally agree. As my sons are not white, they had best have air tight evidence that they felt their life was in danger. But once again I have to say... its funny how that works out dont you think? But I would much rather visit them in the pen, then watch another piece of Crap like Zimmerman walk based on the idea that he figured they must be up to no good based on their skin color.

If your sons or anyone else legitimately fear for the life, they've got every right to put a cap in the perp's ass. While Zimmerman is a piece of crap, the jury got it right in his case. Why anyone would use Trayvon Martin, another piece of work himself, as a poster boy for civil rights is mind blowing. There are African Americans that get unjustifiably shot by cops. Why those guys instead Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown aren't used as examples of social injustice is unbelievable.

 

[Stymietee]

Answer the question: are you honestly saying you lived through Jim Crow, including its inception in 1876? And I won't argue that there are still some residual effects of Jim Crow today.

I did answer the question, I'm just smart enough not to allow you to turn this into a reparations thing.

To be clear, YES, I lived during a period of time when Jim Crow was still in full effect! Residual effects?? You're joking right? The idea behind slavery was to create wealth through free labor, but just as Jim Crow replaced Slavery, our current system of profiteering goes on. The difference is that housing and all that goes with that form of discrimination is the methodology.

I actually agree with GK, we SHOULD all have equal opportunity, justice under law, etc. etc. etc., but I live in this country, where as a collective we have yet to grow up and realize that some must maintain control because of blowback fears. Shark had it right, in the year 2020, a mere 3 and 1/2 years from now this country will become a majority minority. Any wonder (fear) why there is a dumbass who literally could be elected president is running on the theme "Taking our country back?"

Like I said, It's right in front of our faces!

 

[redskinsfan]

I did answer the question, I'm just smart enough not to allow you to turn this into a reparations thing.

To be clear, YES, I lived during a period of time when Jim Crow was still in full effect! Residual effects?? You're joking right? The idea behind slavery was to create wealth through free labor, but just as Jim Crow replaced Slavery, our current system of profiteering goes on. The difference is that housing and all that goes with that form of discrimination is the methodology.

I actually agree with GK, we SHOULD all have equal opportunity, justice under law, etc. etc. etc., but I live in this country, where as a collective we have yet to grow up and realize that some must maintain control because of blowback fears. Shark had it right, in the year 2020, a mere 3 and 1/2 years from now this country will become a majority minority. Any wonder (fear) why there is a dumbass who literally could be elected president is running on the theme "Taking our country back?"

Like I said, It's right in front of our faces!

Okay, stymie, humor me: where's the involuntary servitude you're talking about? And as to that dumbass, you're talking about Hillary and/or Bernie, right?

 

[Sharkinva]

If your sons or anyone else legitimately fear for the life, they've got every right to put a cap in the perp's ass. While Zimmerman is a piece of crap, the jury got it right in his case. Why anyone would use Trayvon Martin, another piece of work himself, as a poster boy for civil rights is mind blowing. There are African Americans that get unjustifiably shot by cops. Why those guys instead Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown aren't used as examples of social injustice is unbelievable.

Simple answer as far as Martin goes... Despite his background he was doing NOTHING wrong at the time Zimmerman decided he fit the profile. He was walking back to the house where he was sleeping. Nothing more. So unless its ok to assume because of the color of his skin that he was guilty, Zimmerman had no reason to get out of his truck and press the issue. Mike Brown brought it on himself. T. Martin was a victim of walking while black. And while you claim you are not white, IM curious as to what you do claim... because I can guarantee 70% of black males in this country have been stopped at one point or another based on no other reason than skin color.

 

[redskinsfan]

I can agree that Zimmerman was in the wrong for initially following Travyon? But so what? That's not the issue here. Travyon escalated it to a point where Zimmerman had to use deadly force. Do you not get that? And I'm glad to see that you agree that Michael Brown had it coming, which he did.

 

[Sharkinva]

Okay, stymie, humor me: where's the involuntary servitude you're talking about? And as to that dumbass, you're talking about Hillary and/or Bernie, right?

I would hedge a bet he is referring to Trump.