Bartolo Colon

[pegasusredleg]

FAT RAT

Kudos. Was wondering when someone caught on

 

[PDay8810]

the MLBPA is supporting MLB not the violating players

darn right they are scotty and it's crazy to think players will sue baseball.
Ball players wanna play and just get back in the game

 

[lainey12]

FAT RAT

YAY DT!

 

[lainey12]

They're making shit up as they go and they're setting themselves up for some major lawsuits.

yes they are making it up as they go

does anyone think it's because they really want to nail Arod...that's my suspicion
since when does an appeal mean you're guaranteed more time? I could be totally wrong, but I think they're pulling that card because of Arod

 

[DT LUNA]

yes they are making it up as they go

does anyone think it's because they really want to nail Arod...that's my suspicion
since when does an appeal mean you're guaranteed more time? I could be totally wrong, but I think they're pulling that card because of Arod

I believe you have something here

 

[romeo212000]

yes they are making it up as they go

does anyone think it's because they really want to nail Arod...that's my suspicion
since when does an appeal mean you're guaranteed more time? I could be totally wrong, but I think they're pulling that card because of Arod

It was always about Braun and A-Rod from the start.

 

[lainey12]

It was always about Braun and A-Rod from the start.

agreed they were the big targets...so now we have from the MLB, "oh you can plead it down", or "you're in more trouble if you appeal"
what?

I'm just adding to your point, they are making it up as they go along... and I think it's because of Arod

if there is any truth to that, thanks again Arod

 

[PDay8810]

it's about cleaning up the game. The players themselves want the cheaters weeded out. It's much more than Arod & Braun. I actually think there are more that want to preserve the great game of baseball. It took a long time but I think baseball wants the game clean from PED's much more than just getting ARod.

I know I sure don't want the Yankees to get off from paying this clown and avoid the huge 50 something tax only to refuel and go after the top free agents. Buck had it right.

 

[romeo212000]

it's about cleaning up the game. The players themselves want the cheaters weeded out. It's much more than Arod & Braun. I actually think there are more that want to preserve the great game of baseball. It took a long time but I think baseball wants the game clean from PED's much more than just getting ARod.

I know I sure don't want the Yankees to get off from paying this clown and avoid the huge 50 something tax only to refuel and go after the top free agents. Buck had it right.

Selig sure didn't have a problem turning a blind eye to the rampant PED use in the 90's when he needed to get people interested again when McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds were putting up video game numbers. He's a hypocritical asshole and baseball will only get better once he is no longer the commissioner.

 

[cezero]

Selig sure didn't have a problem turning a blind eye to the rampant PED use in the 90's when he needed to get people interested again when McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds were putting up video game numbers. He's a hypocritical asshole and baseball will only get better once he is no longer the commissioner.

exactly.

people forget that baseball was near death until several of the most juiced up players in the history of the game went out and tried to outdo each other by hitting ridiculous numbers of roid rage homeruns.

it's also why current PED testing in MLB is a joke. they know exactly when they're going to be tested during the season and during the off season.

the only ones who get caught are either too stupid, or arrogant.

 

[PDay8810]

Selig sure didn't have a problem turning a blind eye to the rampant PED use in the 90's when he needed to get people interested again when McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds were putting up video game numbers. He's a hypocritical asshole and baseball will only get better once he is no longer the commissioner.

nobody is defending what happened in the 90's, only that the baseball players themselves want this cleaned up. The people that care about the game and that is much more than Selig are pushing this.....and it's much more than just ARod

 

[romeo212000]

nobody is defending what happened in the 90's, only that the baseball players themselves want this cleaned up. The people that care about the game and that is much more than Selig are pushing this.....and it's much more than just ARod

A witch hunt with testimony and "evidence" from some jerk off trying to save his own ass is not the way to do that.

 

[PDay8810]

the end justifies the means if the game gets clean.

I really think the players that do it right are driving this bus

 

[cezero]

nobody is defending what happened in the 90's, only that the baseball players themselves want this cleaned up....

If the majority of players really did, they would have their union negotiate real PED testing that would actually reduce their use.

MLB is extremely lucky to have tertiary evidence with Biogenesis because their own testing didn't cut it, obviously. Only 2 guys from the Biogenesis group popped positive on MLB PED tests, and 1 of them used his union to contest it....SUCCESSFULLY. That right there shows that it's a joke of a testing system.

 

[PDay8810]

"If the majority of players really did, they would have their union negotiate real PED testing that would actually reduce their use"


I think you will see that.

 

[romeo212000]

the end justifies the means if the game gets clean.

I really think the players that do it right are driving this bus

That's dangerous thinking sir.

 

[PDay8810]

That's dangerous thinking sir.

I think baseball will be ok with my thinking on this subject.
Wait & see.....the players will drive this bus and the game will be better for it

 

[scotsman1948]

A witch hunt with testimony and "evidence" from some jerk off trying to save his own ass is not the way to do that.

how do you suggest they do it then? the dealers, and that's what the jerkoff was, have taught the players how to mask their usage and the only way to catch them is to hope 1 of them screws up like Braun did and even then he got away with it. or hope their dealer/clinic screws up and gets caught.

 

[Swangin]

If the majority of players really did, they would have their union negotiate real PED testing that would actually reduce their use.

MLB is extremely lucky to have tertiary evidence with Biogenesis because their own testing didn't cut it, obviously. Only 2 guys from the Biogenesis group popped positive on MLB PED tests, and 1 of them used his union to contest it....SUCCESSFULLY. That right there shows that it's a joke of a testing system.

I don't know if you can really blame the Players union unless you want harsher punishments? The players union has agreed to testing for HGH and more advanced testing. No other player unions will even agree to HGH testing yet. People are going to take the risk and try to use probably from now on, but personally I think the % of users since 98 has significantly dropped and will continue to drop

BTW, Braun did get busted, he just got off on a technicality.

 

[romeo212000]

how do you suggest they do it then? the dealers, and that's what the jerkoff was, have taught the players how to mask their usage and the only way to catch them is to hope 1 of them screws up like Braun did and even then he got away with it. or hope their dealer/clinic screws up and gets caught.

How about investing their resources in better testing procedures or finding more convincing penalties? This definitely isn't the right way though.