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Don't be an idiot. The point is MN does a terrible job of keeping their top players in state. Even their 2nd tier players choose Wisc and others over MN.
And you are acting like Iowa is so much better, but historically, they haven't done much of anything in comparison to Minnesota.
 

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I'd tell you to stick to something you all know, like Wrestling, but in the last 20 years, UMn's won just as many titles in Wrestling as Iowa has. LOL
You bring up MN hoop/football "Championships" from over 70 years ago, and now you want to only look at the last 20 years in wrestling.

Conference Tournament championships
National championship years
1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2010 (Would've had one last year, and will be adding another in a couple of weeks)
1958, 1962, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 ,1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2020, 2021
 

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And you are acting like Iowa is so much better, but historically, they haven't done much of anything in comparison to Minnesota.
I'm not acting like they are better. I am mocking your homer fueled vomit posts.
 

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Iowa football is definitely not elite. UMn's got 6 Natl Titles, and Iowa has what? ZERO??? LMAO!!! Does Iowa even have baseball? UMn's got a baseball program with 3 Natl Titles and a ton of Conf Titles. I know Iowa doesn't have a hockey program, UMn's got the #1 hockey program ALL-TIME IN THE NATION!!! Iowa doesn't even have a team. And Iowa's Wr program has as many Natl Titles as UMn over the last 20 years.

So is there anything Iowa is superior to UMn at? UMn recently had a Runner Up finish in Men's Gymnastics, our Women's CC team just finished 5th in the nation, our Women's VB team regularly makes the Final Four, our Women's Softball team has been kicking tail. Our Men's Golf team, even has a Natl Title and 3 Top Ten finishes in the NCAA tourney in the 21st Century. Should I mention our Cheer team that has something like 18 Natl Titles just in the 21st Century? Should I go on? How can Iowa compare? You better hope your Hawkeyes don't choke in the Big Dance this season, otherwise you have nothing over the Gophers, NOTHING!!!
 

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You bring up MN hoop/football "Championships" from over 70 years ago, and now you want to only look at the last 20 years in wrestling.

National championship years
Conference Tournament championships
1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2010 (Would've had one last year, and will be adding another in a couple of weeks)
1958, 1962, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982 ,1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2020, 2021
Fine, lol, claim all your men hugging other men while sweating Natl Titles over the eons. I'll take the Gopher's FB/Baseball/Hockey & Basketball titles over Iowa's Wrestling titles every day of the week!!!
 

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Iowa has ZERO football, ZERO basketball, ZERO baseball & ZERO hockey Natl Titles.

0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = ZERO!!!


Minnesota, on the other hand, is the ONLY SCHOOL IN THE NATION with multiple Natl Titles in all 4 of the Major League representative sports!!!

6 + 2 + 3 + 5. And that is only the # of "official" titles, there are several other "unofficial" titles they can claim, too, 1 minimum each for 3 of the 4 sports. Not sure Iowa can even claim any "unofficial" titles, lol.
 

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Fine, lol, claim all your men hugging other men while sweating Natl Titles over the eons. I'll take the Gopher's FB/Baseball/Hockey & Basketball titles over Iowa's Wrestling titles every day of the week!!!
You brought up wrestling, fuckstick. How old were you when MN won their last FB and BB title? I was negative 56 years old.

College basketball research organizations have retroactively awarded Minnesota national championships in 1902, 1903, and 1919.
 

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You brought up wrestling, fuckstick. How old were you when MN won their last FB and BB title? I was negative 56 years old.

College basketball research organizations have retroactively awarded Minnesota national championships in 1902, 1903, and 1919.
Yeah I did. Iowa's ONLY claim to fame, Wrestling, they haven't won any more titles than UMn has the last 20 years. Wrestling is all you got, so what gives? UMn, throughout history, has dominated Iowa in ALL FOUR of the major league representative sports, FB/BB/Bb/Hk, now in the 21st Century, UMn has matched Iowa, for the most part, in their one and only sport. Dude, you seriously better how this year's BB squad doesn't choke, otherwise you got nothing on the Gophers.
 

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And if my pounding you about sports isn't enough, we can go academics/research rankings??? lol You want to go there?
 

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Yeah I did. Iowa's ONLY claim to fame, Wrestling, they haven't won any more titles than UMn has the last 20 years. Wrestling is all you got, so what gives? UMn, throughout history, has dominated Iowa in ALL FOUR of the major league representative sports, FB/BB/Bb/Hk, now in the 21st Century, UMn has matched Iowa, for the most part, in their one and only sport. Dude, you seriously better how this year's BB squad doesn't choke, otherwise you got nothing on the Gophers.
Now lets look at the last 45 years (my lifetime) and compare. I give zero fucks who supposedly won the National BB championship 119 years ago. Also funny you call college hockey and baseball "major"
 

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Now lets look at the last 45 years (my lifetime) and compare. I give zero fucks who supposedly won the National BB championship 119 years ago. Also funny you call college hockey and baseball "major"
They ARE major, you moron, those who play Gopher Hockey and Gopher Baseball go on to make MILLIONS in the NHL and MLB, and Gophers seem to outdo Hawkeyes in the way of making PRO money at Wrestling, too, lol. Want to compare? I'll start with Lesnar, of course, and I am sure Gable Stevenson will be his heir apparent.
 

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Lol...way to go Jemele. Score board!

Can we stop pimping Izzo as some kind of god? One title 21 years ago and nothing but disappointing play/failures.
Did an analysis comparing Mich St to Minnesota and UMn actually had the advantage in the comparison.

MSU had Duke, Virginia & Notre Dame on their OOC schedule, and they did beat Duke & Notre Dame, but the Virginia game got canceled and Duke barely got into the tourney and Notre Dame ended up rated worse than NW in the NET ratings.

Overall, UMn had more wins vs Top 25 rated teams and more wins vs Top 100 rated teams as well. So not surprised MSU got bounced so early.
 

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Lol...way to go Jemele. Score board!

Can we stop pimping Izzo as some kind of god? One title 21 years ago and nothing but disappointing play/failures.
He reminds me of Lloyd Carr
 

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Iowa has NEVER won a Natl title in cbb. UMn has 3 titles.

Iowa has only made the FF once in the last 64 years. Only twice has made the E8 in that time. Hardly the stuff of a NON-dog shit program.

In the last 50 years, Iowa's only gotten to one more Sweet 16 than UMn has, so if UMn is a dogsh1t program, I'd say Iowa is not much better. They better not crap their pants in this year's dance, lol.

Just wondering what years did Minnesota win a national title in basketball? According to sports-.reference.com the Gophers have 14 total tourney trips (14-14 record all time) and one Final Four (1990).
 

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Just wondering what years did Minnesota win a national title in basketball? According to sports-.reference.com the Gophers have 14 total tourney trips (14-14 record all time) and one Final Four (1990).
UMn won Natl Titles in 1902, 1903 and 1919, according to 2 different sources, Helms Athletic Foundation named them champs in 1902 and 1919, and some other rating system ranked the 1903 team as the #1 rated team. UMn soundly beat Yale in 1902, and went undefeated in 1903, yet Helms still gave the title to Yale with their pick. There was an Eastern bias back then, in both cfb and cbb. Western teams had to earn titles back then by going out east and beating the perceived best teams in the nation, sometimes more than once before they started to become recognized as legitimate competition, and they got to only the Elite 8 in 1990. I was at that game, a missed 3 pointer before the buzzer would have gotten them to the FF, we all thought the shot was going in. Very disappointing, but still a fun experience.
 

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