An Inconvenient Truth About Washington....

[TrustMeIamRight]

I think Barrett will need to review the game film from Nebraska as compared to the prior 3 games and realize where the differences lie. When he's confident, he can throw dimes all over. I think he's going to need to do that against michigan. I'm doubting we do much out on the edges, so we're going to have to attack with slants and posts, as well as the occasional bubble screen. If we're effective on those sort of plays, we have a good chance. If not, it will probably be a L.

Yeah -- the edge is rather difficult to throw on UM. Since Jourdan Lewis returned -- most teams have basically abandoned throwing to the outside. UM is definitely susceptible to slot WRs -- especially slants and posts. Our safeties have improved in their coverage as the year went on, but Colorado absolutely abused them on exactly what you talked about. I can see OSU trying to use the same type of strategy, as they will have better athletes in the slot than anyone we have faced.

Personally, I was excited when they said they were moving Peppers to a hybrid role, as I thought we could use him as a spy on Barrett on the run option. But with our safeties getting taken advantage of in coverage -- I am starting to think, they may use Peppers more in coverage in the slot on guys like Samuel.

The game should be entertaining. It is going to be a chess match against two very good teams. I'm just happy UM is back to even being in the conversation. It was a miserable 7 or 8 years.

 

[Across The Field]

With Bama -- I agree with the pass defense being susceptible, but the OL has to give the WR's time to run the routes and the QB time to go through their progressions. That is the tough part.

With running the ball -- I suppose it is possible, but I just don't see anyone being able to. They are literally giving up 2.09 ypc this year. That is unreal. They have one of the best rush defenses I've seen in quite some time.

That is what makes them so tough -- they put teams in 3rd and long situations, then unleash the pass rushers.

Yep, that's why you have to take advantage on the early downs and keep their pass rushers at bay. Just like against you guys, you have to be efficient on the short/intermediate routes. If you can't get at least 5-7 yards on first and second down, it'll be a very long day.

 

[Across The Field]

I missed SC.

The Pac has


11 UW
12 Colorado
15 Stanford
30 Utah
38 USC
43 WSU

So, still not more in the top 25 than the Pac has total...

Did I say top 25? I meant top 26. My bad, fam.

 

[TheDayMan]

Did I say top 25? I meant top 26. My bad, fam.

All good, I meant same, or less, or 6, or 7, or some shit.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

BAMA front 7 could be starters on any NFL team. They are very good. Not just physical either.

You aren't going to hear me argue with that. The sick part to me -- they literally bring in situational guys fresh off the bench. The situational guys are 5 star recruits.

I was watching their game 2 weeks ago and saw a kickoff return and this Bama players looked like a missle running down the field and he absolutely de-cleats the return guy. The name sounded familiar, so I looked it up and it is a 5 star recruit who was top 15 nationally. He is their 3rd string WLB.

You could literally break Bama's defense up in two units and both would probably be top 10 defenses -- that is how deep that team is.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I had to LMFAO when the powers that be ranked Nebraska at #10. Nebraska's marquee win was against Oregon. A 3 pt. win on Nebraska's home field. lulz. Fvk the B1G, fvk the SEC, and fvk everyone else not mentioned.

I wouldn't get up in arms about Nebraska -- they were ranked in the top 10 by default as well. They were undefeated, but got exposed when they played a quality team finally.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I wouldn't get up in arms about Nebraska -- they were ranked in the top 10 by default as well. They were undefeated, but got exposed when they played a quality team finally.

I hope Washington meets up with Michigan or Ohio St. in the playoffs. If I only had a nickel for all the times in my lifetime a B1G team came into the Rose Bowl rated as high as the heavens only to get boat raced in that game. I'm 52 years old and I was lucky to witness it plenty of times now.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Utah is rated in the top 25, Stanford was rated in the top 10 when UW beat them. The Rutgers series was scheduled 5+ years ago when Rutgers was going bowling year in and year out. Nobody knew Oregon would take a dive .. but seeing how Oregon was 10th ranked Nebraska's marquee win ... lulz.

It doesn't matter anyways seeing how according to ESP1N and the playoff committee ... it's all about quality losses these days. Just ask Texas A&M and Ohio St. Ya because Penn. St. is a powerhouse ... kind of like when they got boat raced by UM or beat by Pitt. lulz again.

Congrats?...I guess

 

[DHoey]

You aren't going to hear me argue with that. The sick part to me -- they literally bring in situational guys fresh off the bench. The situational guys are 5 star recruits.

I was watching their game 2 weeks ago and saw a kickoff return and this Bama players looked like a missle running down the field and he absolutely de-cleats the return guy. The name sounded familiar, so I looked it up and it is a 5 star recruit who was top 15 nationally. He is their 3rd string WLB.

You could literally break Bama's defense up in two units and both would probably be top 10 defenses -- that is how deep that team is.

Was that against AtM? The targeting, that wasn't called?

 

[WizardHawk]

You people still arguing over nothing?

Washington has had a weak schedule. That isn't a news flash. Kind of well publicized by now.

And it doesn't make one single bit of difference. Not even a smidgen. Where you rank in polls in early November hasn't ever derailed anyone's post season chances. Not a single time. It is nothing more than talking points at the water cooler. That's it.

If UW is only a paper giant they have what is ranked by FAR the toughest road to 13-0 of any team in the top 10. That's a fact. They are back heavy on their schedule and had no control over oregon, stanford, and others entirely falling apart this year. They played the teams in front of them. And are setting records on the way to the end of this season. Records that no other team with a bullshit schedule has beaten either. They are catching the eye of voters and creating a discussion. They will have to play and beat at least 3 pretty solid teams with only one being at home to get to 13-0.

They will have earned their spot at that time and will get in. There is no reason to bitch or argue over it.

I have already stated that it will not keep the top 2 or 3 teams in the nation out of the playoffs. If you want a guaranteed seat at the table you go win your schedule and win your league going undefeated. Failing to do that brings the potential of not reaching it. Too bad.

 

[Milkshake]

I hope Washington meets up with Michigan or Ohio St. in the playoffs. If I only had a nickel for all the times in my lifetime a B1G team came into the Rose Bowl rated as high as the heavens only to get boat raced in that game. I'm 52 years old and I was lucky to witness it plenty of times now.

Sorry AG - this is just utter bs or you're just old and senile.. The PAC has a slight edge - but nowhere near your statement...

Amazing how close the Rose Bowl has been between the conferences.

Pac is 36-31 with a score of 1416 to 1381 (pulled this manually - might be an error... and some schools may have not been conference affiliated... - removed obvious ones from over the years)


1-Jan-02 Stanford 0 Michigan 49
1-Jan-21 California 28 Ohio State 0
1-Jan-23 USC 14 Penn State 3
1-Jan-47 #4 UCLA 14 #5 Illinois 45
1-Jan-48 #8 USC 0 #2 Michigan 49
1-Jan-49 #4 California 14 #7 Northwestern 20
2-Jan-50 #3 California 14 #6 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-51 #5 California 6 #9 Michigan 14
1-Jan-52 #7 Stanford 7 #4 Illinois 40
1-Jan-53 #5 USC 7 #11 Wisconsin 0
1-Jan-54 #5 UCLA 20 #3 Michigan State 28
1-Jan-55 #17 USC 7 #1 Ohio State 20
2-Jan-56 #4 UCLA 14 #2 Michigan State 17
1-Jan-57 #10 Oregon State 19 #3 Iowa 35
1-Jan-58 Oregon 7 #2 Ohio State 10
1-Jan-59 #16 California 12 #2 Iowa 38
1-Jan-60 #8 Washington 44 #6 Wisconsin 8
2-Jan-61 #6 Washington 17 #1 Minnesota 7
1-Jan-62 #16 UCLA 3 #6 Minnesota 21
1-Jan-63 #1 USC 42 #2 Wisconsin 37
1-Jan-64 Washington 7 #3 Illinois 17
1-Jan-65 #8 Oregon State 7 #4 Michigan 34
1-Jan-66 #5 UCLA 14 #1 Michigan State 12
2-Jan-67 USC 13 #7 Purdue 14
1-Jan-68 #1 USC 14 #4 Indiana 3
1-Jan-69 #2 USC 16 #1 Ohio State 27
1-Jan-70 #5 USC 10 #7 Michigan 3
1-Jan-71 #12 Stanford 27 #2 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-72 #16 Stanford 13 #4 Michigan 12
1-Jan-73 #1 USC 42 #3 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-74 #7 USC 21 #4 Ohio State 42
1-Jan-75 #5 USC 18 #3 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-76 #11 UCLA 23 #1 Ohio State 10
1-Jan-77 #3 USC 14 #2 Michigan 6
2-Jan-78 #13 Washington 27 #4 Michigan 20
1-Jan-79 #3 USC 17 #5 Michigan 10
1-Jan-80 #3 USC 17 #1 Ohio State 16
1-Jan-81 #16 Washington 6 #5 Michigan 23
1-Jan-82 #12 Washington 28 #13 Iowa 0
1-Jan-83 #5 UCLA 24 #19 Michigan 14
2-Jan-84 UCLA 45 #4 Illinois 9
1-Jan-85 #18 USC 20 #6 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-86 #13 UCLA 45 #4 Iowa 28
1-Jan-87 #7 Arizona State 22 #4 Michigan 15
1-Jan-88 #16 USC 17 #8 Michigan State 20
2-Jan-89 #5 USC 14 #11 Michigan 22
1-Jan-90 #12 USC 17 #3 Michigan 10
1-Jan-91 #8 Washington 46 #17 Iowa 34
1-Jan-92 #2 Washington 34 #4 Michigan 14
1-Jan-93 #9 Washington 31 #7 Michigan 38
1-Jan-94 #14 UCLA 16 #9 Wisconsin 21
2-Jan-95 #12 Oregon 20 #2 Penn State 38
1-Jan-96 #17 USC 41 #3 Northwestern 32
1-Jan-97 #2 Arizona State 17 #4 Ohio State 20
1-Jan-98 #8 Washington State 16 #1 Michigan 21
1-Jan-99 #6 UCLA 31 #9 Wisconsin 38
1-Jan-00 #22 Stanford 9 #4 Wisconsin 17
1-Jan-01 #4 Washington 34 #14 Purdue 24
1-Jan-04 #1 USC 28 #4 Michigan 14
1-Jan-07 #8 USC 32 #3 Michigan 18
1-Jan-08 #6 USC 49 #13 Illinois 17
1-Jan-09 #5 USC 38 #6 Penn State 24
1-Jan-10 #7 Oregon 17 #8 Ohio State 26
2-Jan-12 #6 Oregon 45 #9 Wisconsin 38
1-Jan-13 #8 Stanford 20 Wisconsin 14
1-Jan-14 #5 Stanford 20 #4 Michigan State 24
1-Jan-16 #6 Stanford 45 #5 Iowa 16

 

[AlaskaGuy]

If they go undefeated -- they absolutely deserve the 4th spot. IMO, the game against Bama will be very, very ugly though.

Ugly was the Michigan St. game vs Bama. If you think Bama is going to steamroll a Chris Petersen coached Washington team anything like they did the B1G champions last year then you got another thing coming. People in the midwest don't know jack fvking sh1t about Washington football. This is like a time warp all over again. Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes were two of the whiny'st cvnts to ever coach the game and all they did was give their sh1t projections to the press right up until the Rose Bowl were they usually got curb stomped. Dejavu all over again.

 

[DHoey]

You people still arguing over nothing?

Washington has had a weak schedule. That isn't a news flash. Kind of well publicized by now.

And it doesn't make one single bit of difference. Not even a smidgen. Where you rank in polls in early November hasn't ever derailed anyone's post season chances. Not a single time. It is nothing more than talking points at the water cooler. That's it.

If UW is only a paper giant they have what is ranked by FAR the toughest road to 13-0 of any team in the top 10. That's a fact. They are back heavy on their schedule and had no control over oregon, stanford, and others entirely falling apart this year. They played the teams in front of them. And are setting records on the way to the end of this season. Records that no other team with a bullshit schedule has beaten either. They are catching the eye of voters and creating a discussion. They will have to play and beat at least 3 pretty solid teams with only one being at home to get to 13-0.

They will have earned their spot at that time and will get in. There is no reason to bitch or argue over it.

I have already stated that it will not keep the top 2 or 3 teams in the nation out of the playoffs. If you want a guaranteed seat at the table you go win your schedule and win your league going undefeated. Failing to do that brings the potential of not reaching it. Too bad.

I agree with all except.....Stanford hasn't fell off the table. They will most likely end up 9-3 going into bowl season.

 

[WizardHawk]

I agree with all except.....Stanford hasn't fell off the table. They will most likely end up 9-3 going into bowl season.

Stanford is well down from where they have been in recent years. Beating them does not carry the same weight.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Sorry AG - this is just utter bs or you're just old and senile.. The PAC has a slight edge - but nowhere near your statement...

Amazing how close the Rose Bowl has been between the conferences.

Pac is 36-31 with a score of 1416 to 1381 (pulled this manually - might be an error... and some schools may have not been conference affiliated... - removed obvious ones from over the years)


1-Jan-02 Stanford 0 Michigan 49
1-Jan-21 California 28 Ohio State 0
1-Jan-23 USC 14 Penn State 3
1-Jan-47 #4 UCLA 14 #5 Illinois 45
1-Jan-48 #8 USC 0 #2 Michigan 49
1-Jan-49 #4 California 14 #7 Northwestern 20
2-Jan-50 #3 California 14 #6 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-51 #5 California 6 #9 Michigan 14
1-Jan-52 #7 Stanford 7 #4 Illinois 40
1-Jan-53 #5 USC 7 #11 Wisconsin 0
1-Jan-54 #5 UCLA 20 #3 Michigan State 28
1-Jan-55 #17 USC 7 #1 Ohio State 20
2-Jan-56 #4 UCLA 14 #2 Michigan State 17
1-Jan-57 #10 Oregon State 19 #3 Iowa 35
1-Jan-58 Oregon 7 #2 Ohio State 10
1-Jan-59 #16 California 12 #2 Iowa 38
1-Jan-60 #8 Washington 44 #6 Wisconsin 8
2-Jan-61 #6 Washington 17 #1 Minnesota 7
1-Jan-62 #16 UCLA 3 #6 Minnesota 21
1-Jan-63 #1 USC 42 #2 Wisconsin 37
1-Jan-64 Washington 7 #3 Illinois 17
1-Jan-65 #8 Oregon State 7 #4 Michigan 34
1-Jan-66 #5 UCLA 14 #1 Michigan State 12
2-Jan-67 USC 13 #7 Purdue 14
1-Jan-68 #1 USC 14 #4 Indiana 3
1-Jan-69 #2 USC 16 #1 Ohio State 27
1-Jan-70 #5 USC 10 #7 Michigan 3
1-Jan-71 #12 Stanford 27 #2 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-72 #16 Stanford 13 #4 Michigan 12
1-Jan-73 #1 USC 42 #3 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-74 #7 USC 21 #4 Ohio State 42
1-Jan-75 #5 USC 18 #3 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-76 #11 UCLA 23 #1 Ohio State 10
1-Jan-77 #3 USC 14 #2 Michigan 6
2-Jan-78 #13 Washington 27 #4 Michigan 20
1-Jan-79 #3 USC 17 #5 Michigan 10
1-Jan-80 #3 USC 17 #1 Ohio State 16
1-Jan-81 #16 Washington 6 #5 Michigan 23
1-Jan-82 #12 Washington 28 #13 Iowa 0
1-Jan-83 #5 UCLA 24 #19 Michigan 14
2-Jan-84 UCLA 45 #4 Illinois 9
1-Jan-85 #18 USC 20 #6 Ohio State 17
1-Jan-86 #13 UCLA 45 #4 Iowa 28
1-Jan-87 #7 Arizona State 22 #4 Michigan 15
1-Jan-88 #16 USC 17 #8 Michigan State 20
2-Jan-89 #5 USC 14 #11 Michigan 22
1-Jan-90 #12 USC 17 #3 Michigan 10
1-Jan-91 #8 Washington 46 #17 Iowa 34
1-Jan-92 #2 Washington 34 #4 Michigan 14
1-Jan-93 #9 Washington 31 #7 Michigan 38
1-Jan-94 #14 UCLA 16 #9 Wisconsin 21
2-Jan-95 #12 Oregon 20 #2 Penn State 38
1-Jan-96 #17 USC 41 #3 Northwestern 32
1-Jan-97 #2 Arizona State 17 #4 Ohio State 20
1-Jan-98 #8 Washington State 16 #1 Michigan 21
1-Jan-99 #6 UCLA 31 #9 Wisconsin 38
1-Jan-00 #22 Stanford 9 #4 Wisconsin 17
1-Jan-01 #4 Washington 34 #14 Purdue 24
1-Jan-04 #1 USC 28 #4 Michigan 14
1-Jan-07 #8 USC 32 #3 Michigan 18
1-Jan-08 #6 USC 49 #13 Illinois 17
1-Jan-09 #5 USC 38 #6 Penn State 24
1-Jan-10 #7 Oregon 17 #8 Ohio State 26
2-Jan-12 #6 Oregon 45 #9 Wisconsin 38
1-Jan-13 #8 Stanford 20 Wisconsin 14
1-Jan-14 #5 Stanford 20 #4 Michigan State 24
1-Jan-16 #6 Stanford 45 #5 Iowa 16

Those Michigan teams came in favored vs Washington 3 out of four times during Don James years as HC and James showed them the door every time but once. Ohio St. and UM were good for steamrolling B1G teams but they didn't do jack sh1t in the bowl games but every blue moon.

 

[wingsauce7]

...They beat a bunch of cupcakes !

Really ! That's all they've done !

Rutgers- 2-7, 0-6 Big 10
Idaho- 5-4, 3-2 Sunbelt
Portland St. 3-6,
Arizona 2-7, 0-6 Pac 12
Stanford 6-3, 4-3 Pac12 (this team played a bunch of cupcakes too)
Oregon 3-6, 1-5 Pac12
Oregon St. 2-7, 1-5 Pac12
Utah 7-2, 4-2 Pac12 (this team played a bunch of cupcakes too)
California 4-5, 2-4 Pac12

So tell me which of the powerhouse teams they've played so far this year, listed above, that puts them in the top 5 ?

Washington is this years Iowa, except Washington is good.

 

[DHoey]

Stanford is well down from where they have been in recent years. Beating them does not carry the same weight.

It carries more weight than what everyone is saying. Stanford should win out with their only loses to UW, WSU and Colorado. Those are 3 pretty damned good teams.

 

[DHoey]

Washington is this years Iowa, except Washington is good.

Except UW has an offense

 

[Milkshake]

Those Michigan teams came in favored vs Washington 3 out of four times during Don James years as HC adn James showed them the door every time but once. Ohio St. and UM were good for steamrolling B1G teams but they didn't do jack sh1t in the bowl games but every blue moon.

Sooo, a couple times... congrats on your couple nickels.

 

[SeeYouNT]

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