Amateur Draft

[EVille3]

You don't know what a prospect is going to do in the majors (if he even gets there), but if this kid is as advertised in this article, I think we'll be very happy.

Unfortunately, it sounds an awful lot like Peguero...

 

[NWinAZ]

Not at all. Too early to tell like mentioned above, but I didn't get anything in the article that sounded like Peggy.

 

[NWinAZ]

Brief update on picks rounds 3-10.

Mariners' Day 2 MLB Draft selections - Mariners News - MyNorthwest.com

 

[kcden]

Not at all. Too early to tell like mentioned above, but I didn't get anything in the article that sounded like Peggy.

The two scouting reports I read said, basically, "[a guy with light tower power that doesn't really know how to hit and may not be able to figure it out]"

That sounds exactly like Peguero, except one of the reports said he would be a plus fielder in RF; the other said his skills would relegate him to LF, and a poor one at that.

That said, scouts are wrong all the time, and Keith Law (who was one of the two reports) had him ranked as his #44 prospect, so he must see something there, in-spite of what he said in his write-up.

 

[NWinAZ]

Anybody, including a scout, who says that a 18 year old kid 'may not be able to figure it out' shouldn't be in baseball. Did any of us know anything at 18? Baseball is no different and that is why no names make it big at times because they mature later than others and do figure it out. Not saying he will or won't, but to say any kid in particular won't is just nuts.

 

[unlvmariners]

Unfortunately, it sounds an awful lot like Peguero...

I was thinking the exact same thing except he would be the right handed version.

 

[kcden]

Anybody, including a scout, who says that a 18 year old kid 'may not be able to figure it out' shouldn't be in baseball. Did any of us know anything at 18? Baseball is no different and that is why no names make it big at times because they mature later than others and do figure it out. Not saying he will or won't, but to say any kid in particular won't is just nuts.

Taking it a little too literal. I probably inferred more than they actually said. Here are the two scouting reports. They both sound exactly like Peguero, from a hitting perspective. I hope that, unlike Peguero, he actually does learn how to hit:

"Evaluating high schoolers from Canada can sometimes be a tricky exercise, but thanks to the showcase circuit and Morgan's travel to warmer climates with the Langley Blaze this spring, scouts have had the chance to see the top Canadian prep talent this year quite a bit.

Strong and toolsy, Morgan's raw power is undeniable. He's put on shows in showcase batting practices in the past and has the ability to hit the ball out of any ballpark. But the jury is still out about his bat, with some questioning his ability to hit enough to tap into that power consistently. Morgan is a solid outfielder with a strong arm, giving him a good profile for right field.

His power profiles well for that corner outfield spot, and the team that believes he'll hit enough will be the one to take him and try to sign him away from North Carolina State."

"Morgan has been on the radar for a while as a kid who's done several showcases since his sophomore year of high school, but outside of light-tower power the rest of his game hasn't progressed the way many thought he would.

At the plate, he has impressive strength and above-average bat speed, and has shown as much pull power as any prep hitter in the class. The hit tool isn't close to the power tool, however, as he doesn't hit the ball hard the other way and he's really struggled in games with wood bats.

In the outfield, Morgan is limited to left field as he doesn't have much speed nor instincts. His arm strength is only average, and he struggled to hit the cutoff man during pre-game drills.

It's an uphill battle for Morgan as a one-tool kid in Canada who'll face inferior competition this spring, but with his power and bat speed someone will dream big on him and hope he can stick in left field."

 

[NWinAZ]

Ya, I read and posted the articles on here last night. You or any scout tell me an 18 year will be a stud or a dud at that age. Things guys like at ESPN see a guy ive maybe once and they know the whole story on them. They are paid to bs and they do it well. There is a reason none of them are running a pro team.

 

[kcden]

Ya, I read and posted the articles on here last night. You or any scout tell me an 18 year will be a stud or a dud at that age. Things guys like at ESPN see a guy ive maybe once and they know the whole story on them. They are paid to bs and they do it well. There is a reason none of them are running a pro team.

Well, he is going to be in the Mariner's system, so, really, what are the odds of him learning anything between now and when they send him to Seattle?

 

[NWinAZ]

I'm not a big believer in us killing the prospects. I'm a bigger believer we can't identify a true prospect in the first place. I have no idea if this kid is a true prospect, but I know nobody can say with certainty that he isn't at this stage.

 

[octagondd]

Based on the one video I saw of him speaking, I am going to rush to judgement and say that Jackson will flame out in AA because he is not smart enough to make adjustments.

 

[NWinAZ]

Ya because we all were geniuses at age 18. WOW!

 

[hawkfan1073]

Based on the one video I saw of him speaking, I am going to rush to judgement and say that Jackson will flame out in AA because he is not smart enough to make adjustments.

So, you think it takes college degrees to hit baseballs? Honestly, did you even think about what you were saying or do you rush to judge anyone who is mentally inferior to yourself?
It's kind of funny when you think of it from a coach's standpoint. We tell our players "Don't think, just hit" "Hitting is easy...just see the ball hit the ball"
My favorite is "Get up there and be aggressive but be patient at the plate"
Anyways, I digress.....intelligence and batting average have not been positively correlated yet unless you have seen some new study?
/2cents

 

[NWinAZ]

I don't remember Einstein or Tesla being very good hitters.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Based on the one video I saw of him speaking, I am going to rush to judgement and say that Jackson will flame out in AA because he is not smart enough to make adjustments.

You have to remember that baseball is a sport, not a chess game. I personally couldn't care less if he has an IQ of 70 as long as he can play. Shit, look at Marshawn Lynch, the reason he stopped talking to the media is probably because he sounds borderline retarded. There are plenty of excellent athletes who are well below average intelligence, don't be surprised or discouraged.

That being said, I haven't seen an interview of his and I don't really care to either. I never understood the fascination with player interviews, I really don't care what they have to say. Most of what players say in interviews consist of canned BS and cliches anyway, so why bother?

 

[seahawksfan234]

Back to the actual topic of the thread...

I agree with NWinAZ as far as the age thing goes. I've always had a bit of worry when it comes to drafting 18 year olds, primarily because the body is still developing at that young age.

 

[wazzu31]

I don't remember Einstein or Tesla being very good hitters.

And all of baseball are scouting 14 year old latin kids because of their brains. The greatest players in history read at elementary levels, Ruth and Cobb.

 

[wazzu31]

Back to the actual topic of the thread...

I agree with NWinAZ as far as the age thing goes. I've always had a bit of worry when it comes to drafting 18 year olds, primarily because the body is still developing at that young age.

But there are positives as well. The younger they are (theoretically) the easier it should be to break their bad habits and their bodies have less wear and tear on them like most college kids. As well as they have access to a great training staff that can help them with their body development. College baseball is amazing, but it plays 2nd fiddle to the body development of the football and basketball players.

 

[hawkfan1073]

You have to remember that baseball is a sport, not a chess game. I personally couldn't care less if he has an IQ of 70 as long as he can play. Shit, look at Marshawn Lynch, the reason he stopped talking to the media is probably because he sounds borderline retarded. There are plenty of excellent athletes who are well below average intelligence, don't be surprised or discouraged.

That being said, I haven't seen an interview of his and I don't really care to either. I never understood the fascination with player interviews, I really don't care what they have to say. Most of what players say in interviews consist of canned BS and cliches anyway, so why bother?

Lynch has one of the highest Wonderlick scores for any athlete. In fact supposedly he has a 144 IQ. So maybe a different example would be better?

https://archive.foolz.us/sp/thread/44303349/
^reference

 

[seahawksfan234]

Lynch has one of the highest Wonderlick scores for any athlete. In fact supposedly he has a 144 IQ. So maybe a different example would be better?

https://archive.foolz.us/sp/thread/44303349/
^reference

Marshawn Lynch scored a 14 on his first attempt. He majored in coloring at Cal.