All 4 AFC Teams deserve to be where they are

[fightinfunbags]

I like Allen and the BiIls. But I can't root against Burrow. So I want the Bengals to take care of business.

Hey, what do Browns fans do on Super Bowl Sunday?

 

[cincygrad]

Meanwhile, 3 of the 4 teams in the NFC Final Four are from the Eagles division. Analytics are fucking hilarious. Just heard a drop on the radio that PFF has the Giants ranked as the NFL’s 29th best team…even after they end up in the NFC semifinals.

Analytics aren't everything. The Bengals were ranked poorly by most available metrics last year and they made it to the Super Bowl. But, using winning percentage of opponents is also seriously flawed when comparing teams from different conferences to one another. There are not enough common opponents for it to make any sense. It's mostly meaningless. At the end of the day, the Eagles played the teams on their schedule. And they were good at beating the teams on their schedule. Same is true for the Niners.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

To be clear, I’m not going the conspiracy theorist route. That’s retarded (no offense). What I’m pointing out is that the conspiracy theory didn’t make a ton of sense when you put it under scrutiny. And then we get to my error. When someone is dabbling in conspiracy theories, there are no agreed upon rules. So whenever someone pushes back on the theory they can just move the goalposts and do whatever they want to make the conspiracy theory still work. For you it was “NFL could rig the games” and then it morphed into “the media could just make the NFL rig the games”.

But this is fun so I’ll just take another run at this. Why isn’t every Super Bowl played between the Giants and the Jets or the LA teams and the Bears? NY LA and Chicago are the biggest markets in the country. If the NFL is fixing games at the behest of the media then why don’t we see this happen every year?

They are clearly not rigging games. I am just saying if there is a call that could go either way, we will need to watch to see which way the favor lands. AS I said, I hope a well fought game occurs that is fairly called and the best team comes out the winner. I am also not saying the Bengals are the better team, or that the Chiefs aren't the better team. I am just saying, let's watch the games and keep an eye on those calls and see which way it leans.

 

[Anointed One]

Well, yeah.

Health matters, though. You dont have guys like Lamar Jackson, Mike Williams, and Tua then you're probably going home. Its a parity league with a salary cap so you cant really lose too important players. When the Chiefs and Broncos got rolled in the SB with Mahomes and Peyton, they were missing guys. You dont really want banged up teams advancing to the SB.

Jags also had one heck of a 2nd half adjustment. Teams with that 'counter punch' certainly deserve to move on. Bengals over Chiefs last year for example. Chiefs over Niners in the SB a few years back. The counter punch usually is a team figuring out a major flaw in the other team.

That's why they say, "It was a tale of two halves"...

 

[PDay8810]

That's why they say, "It was a tale of two halves"...

and a week-to-week league

 

[cincygrad]

They are clearly not rigging games. I am just saying if there is a call that could go either way, we will need to watch to see which way the favor lands. AS I said, I hope a well fought game occurs that is fairly called and the best team comes out the winner. I am also not saying the Bengals are the better team, or that the Chiefs aren't the better team. I am just saying, let's watch the games and keep an eye on those calls and see which way it leans.

I don't think the refs are throwing games either. But it's pretty clear that the playoff games have MUCH more engagement with the NFL offices. How many of those quick reviews did we see this weekend? And there exists some chance that small amounts of bias could mean that some plays are quickly reviewed while others are not.

 

[Wamu]

Hey, what do Browns fans do on Super Bowl Sunday?

I'll have to ask around, not really sure. Still gotta figure out what my gameday menu will be. I know for sure gonna have some sticky icky. Maybe even some caviar. Load up a few joints.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I'll have to ask around, not really sure. Still gotta figure out what my gameday menu will be. I know for sure gonna have some sticky icky. Maybe even some caviar. Load up a few joints.

You roll joints with caviar? Salut, Don Corleone

 

[fastforward]

3 excellent teams plus the Jaguars.

 

[msgkings322]

TBH the final 8 is probably what it should be.

Of the 6 games only one was any kind of 'upset', and barely that (Giants)

 

[Cincyfan78]

I don't think the refs are throwing games either. But it's pretty clear that the playoff games have MUCH more engagement with the NFL offices. How many of those quick reviews did we see this weekend? And there exists some chance that small amounts of bias could mean that some plays are quickly reviewed while others are not.

Easier to have that level of engagement when you have 1 game going on at a time...

But, agreed - higher profile games - you certainly don't want those leaving bad optics, as a league.

 

[Wamu]

You roll joints with caviar? Salut, Don Corleone

Not all the time. But four or five times a year it's a nice treat.

 

[Shane_O_Mac812]

Tickets for the neutral field AFC Chamionship game between the Chiefs and Bills are already going for near SB value tickets. If you think the NFL will allow any other result than that, I would say you are crazy. However, the Jags and Bengals literally have to play so clean this week, because anything that could be deemed debatable will go against the Bengals and Jags, and help the Bills and Chiefs. It is what the league has been hyping since preseason.

I can't imagine a different outcome right now.

Your tinfoil hat is way too tight. The NFL may be hoping for that outcome, they aren't going to sway officials into giving us that game. Grow up.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The really cool thing about this year as a Chiefs fan is we didn't actually have super-sized expectations per se outside of Mahomes being an alien. The Chiefs are now set up as well as any team in the NFL to sustain success for the next 3 or so years. Veach should be up for executive of the year.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Your tinfoil hat is way too tight. The NFL may be hoping for that outcome, they aren't going to sway officials into giving us that game. Grow up.

Relax shooter. I am just saying that 50/50 calls, those will probably align with Buffalo and KC. We will have to wait and see. Both are good teams, so I would not be surprised to see very clean games and them just spanking the Bengals and Jags either. I am just making a statement, keep your eye on the calls/non-calls and see which way the favor bounces.

 

[Dude]

Agreed. Teams that made it so far have demonstrated resiliency and will to win.

 

[SeattleCoug]

Of the 6 games only one was any kind of 'upset', and barely that (Giants)

Yea and i dont think anyone is surprised the Giants won. You could maybe argue the Chargers but as long as they keep doing Charger things they deserve nothing.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I have never noticed this side of Josh Allen. Thoughts?

Josh Allen is one of the BIGGEST crybabies in the NFL!

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[cincygrad]

I have never noticed this side of Josh Allen. Thoughts?

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Some guys are more prone to these types of things.... I just see him as a competitor. I don't follow them too much, but I get the sense that the whole team sees him as a great leader. I think that's what is important. As long as your team thinks of you as a guy that's taking them places, you can deal with some less than optimal reactions during the game.

Now, if you're Mac Jones and you're pulling this shit after posting a 50 QB rating and throwing 3 picks.... It doesn't go over quite as well.

 

[cincygrad]

But.... I do think Allen makes a lot of mistakes. If you can force him into a few errors, you can really swing a game quickly.