AL East Thread

[tducey]

To me the leadoff guy has to be both a good hitter and a speedster. A guy that can get a leadoff single and before you know it he's on 3rd with 2 stolen bases.

 

[soxfan1468927]

To me the leadoff guy has to be both a good hitter and a speedster. A guy that can get a leadoff single and before you know it he's on 3rd with 2 stolen bases.

Yeah high OBP and a good baserunner. I feel Benintendi would be better suited to lead off because Betts would be better suited in the 2-hole with his power. But then they'll want to have a lefty hitting 3rd and they really don't have a high-average lefty hitter. Which is why I believe they are going with Betts, Benny, Bogaerts/Hanley depending on who is hot.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Stolen bases are a lost art in today's game. Last years SB champ had 34 stolen bases, the lowest total in 50+ years. Gardner is going to see more pitches and get on base more often then Ellsbury would

 

[nynasty]

My lead off guy is a scrappy kid, one who looks in the eye of the pitcher and makes him work, steps out of the box pisses him off, gets into his head, let the next batter see what he has, do whatever it takes to get on base and when he does get on, again get a good lead, keep your eye on the release of the ball, you see that ball is not reaching catcher, you take off. That catcher has to catch that ball clean get a good grip and make the perfect throw... if you think Gardner was that guy , I don’t!

My number 2 has to move that guy if he doesn’t get a good pitch to steal , he has to give himself up, to try and give his team beat chance at an early lead ... takes a lot of pressure off starter.

The rest is up to the gap hitter and clean up... then Rince & repeat

Your philosophy is strickley playing long ball.

You basically just described Gardner's game to a T.

I'm beginning to suspect this is schtick.

 

[obxyankeefan]

You basically just described Gardner's game to a T.

I'm beginning to suspect this is schtick.

No schtick, just an angry old guy who wants everyone to believe he played professionally

 

[nynasty]

No schtick, just an angry old guy who wants everyone to believe he played professionally

He lost with me with the "we need a scrappy kid like Ellsbury instead of Gardner" line of reasoning.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Pastafazul]

You basically just described Gardner's game to a T.

I'm beginning to suspect this is schtick.

please don't fall into that nonsense, you appear to be a good dude, it aint ALL schtick!

personally, i have no problem being wrong about something, i'll be the first one on here to admit it. but i am sorry, the yankees are going to have trouble! it was a mistake letting castro and frazier go. those 2 were special players. the yankees won rings with special players , not stud players , the broscious, jeter, bernie ,oneill's none of these guys were stud players, what they they were the intangibles!

 

[Pastafazul]

He lost with me with the "we need a scrappy kid like Ellsbury instead of Gardner" line of reasoning.

gardner, has incredible talent, but is a moron, still raw after 10 years in bigs! never learned how to steal a base, and is not as fluid a player as ellsbury in the field or at plate.

ellsbury, was a polished player with the sox, everything about his game was solid! he came to the yankees and was ruined, he kept his mouth shut did his job when called upon, when most would have called for an immediate trade. coaches can ruin players.

yea gardener get his uniform dirty, but he ain't considered a scrappy type player.. the knucklehead dives into first base on a low throw..lol, that ain't scrappy, thats just dumb!

 

[Pastafazul]

No schtick, just an angry old guy who wants everyone to believe he played professionally

lol, how many hall of famers would remember you?

 

[bksballer89]

lol, how many hall of famers would remember you?

The same number that remembers you

 

[Pastafazul]

lol, was Girardi fired ? How the fack do you fire a coach that gets you 1 game away from the big show! I guess I was wrong about him too... lol, bunch a huckleberrys

 

[soxfan1468927]

please don't fall into that nonsense, you appear to be a good dude, it aint ALL schtick!

personally, i have no problem being wrong about something, i'll be the first one on here to admit it. but i am sorry, the yankees are going to have trouble! it was a mistake letting castro and frazier go. those 2 were special players. the yankees won rings with special players , not stud players , the broscious, jeter, bernie ,oneill's none of these guys were stud players, what they they were the intangibles!

What is your definition of a stud player? O'Neill, Williams, and Jeter were studs for an extended period of time during the Yankees 4 out of 5 run in my book.

 

[Pastafazul]

What is your definition of a stud player? O'Neill, Williams, and Jeter were studs for an extended period of time during the Yankees 4 out of 5 run in my book.

Ruth Cobb ted Williams DiMaggio Gibson *bonds* Griffey jr. would have put afraud in there, don’t know how long he was juicin

 

[soxfan1468927]

Ruth Cobb ted Williams DiMaggio Gibson *bonds* Griffey jr. would have put afraud in there, don’t know how long he was juicin

Okay I guess if your definition of "stud" is one of the 10 greatest players of all time, then sure. Although Gibson is out of place here.

 

[nynasty]

please don't fall into that nonsense, you appear to be a good dude, it aint ALL schtick!

personally, i have no problem being wrong about something, i'll be the first one on here to admit it. but i am sorry, the yankees are going to have trouble! it was a mistake letting castro and frazier go. those 2 were special players. the yankees won rings with special players , not stud players , the broscious, jeter, bernie ,oneill's none of these guys were stud players, what they they were the intangibles!

Agree to disagree. I really liked Castro, but he got traded for the NL MVP. I do that every day and twice on Sundays. Frazier was good defensively, and would run into one every now and then, but I never saw him as this massive upgrade to Headley. I'm glad they've stopped re-signing aging guys just because and are going to let the Torres and the Andujars of their system have a legit shot at becoming the next core.

 

[nynasty]

What is your definition of a stud player? O'Neill, Williams, and Jeter were studs for an extended period of time during the Yankees 4 out of 5 run in my book.

Jeter's going to be a 1st ballot HOFer. Not a stud?

 

[Pastafazul]

I don’t just look at the physical aspect of a player, the mental part plays a major role and the players history tells me a lot . There is already a mental issue going with with Stanton having to adjust to another position, and other things to consider as well.

As far as Jeter goes, love em! its the intangibles that are going to get him in hall.

 

[soxfan1468927]

I don’t just look at the physical aspect of a player, the mental part plays a major role and the players history tells me a lot . There is already a mental issue going with with Stanton having to adjust to another position, and other things to consider as well.

As far as Jeter goes, love em! its the intangibles that are going to get him in hall.

Intangibles or not, he would be in.

And if Stanton has a "mental problem" going from RF to DH then he's a psycho. Sounds good to me!

 

[nynasty]

I don’t just look at the physical aspect of a player, the mental part plays a major role and the players history tells me a lot . There is already a mental issue going with with Stanton having to adjust to another position, and other things to consider as well.

As far as Jeter goes, love em! its the intangibles that are going to get him in hall.

I think it's being #6 all time in base hits. Potato, Potahtoe.