AL East Thread

[bksballer89]

This is a laughable, laughable statement. Just…… wacky.

Whatever you say pal.

Rent free.

Soto is 25 and Gunnar is 23

As I said before not a gm in baseball if they had to choose between the 2 goes with Gunnar. Not even a knock on him but Soto is one of them where if you have a chance at him then you grab him

 

[bksballer89]

Wow, small world. Feels like coming full circle……not that I remember any specific names from back then.

What was your user name?

 

[Xeliou66]

Soto is 25 and Gunnar is 23

As I said before not a gm in baseball if they had to choose between the 2 goes with Gunnar. Not even a knock on him but Soto is one of them where if you have a chance at him then you grab him

I have to agree, Soto would go ahead of Gunnar every time I think - not a knock on Gunnar, he’s a really good player, but Soto is one of the biggest stars in MLB. If anything Soto’s greatness kind of gets overshadowed by Judge since they are on the same team.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

What was your user name?

Same as here, ThomasTomasz. That’s been my name on every forum. I’ve owned a couple, including a larger sports-gaming one about 7-8 years ago, and I ran SportsHoopla for a few years until it was clear the company that owned it wasn’t going to do any more with it.

 

[chillerdab]

These two websites suggest otherwise.

Gunnar Henderson is 22 Years Old And On Pace To Have One Of The Best Seasons By A Shortstop In MLB History

As we all thought, the best player in the AL and probably the best player in baseball resides in the AL East. It's not Juan Soto, it's not Aaron Judge, it's Gunnar Henderson. All he's done this season...

www.barstoolsports.com

Gunnar Henderson (2024-2024) vs. Juan Soto (2024-2024) vs. Bobby Witt Jr. (2024-2024): Head-to-Head Stats Comparison | Stathead.com

Compare Players: Check out the head-to-head stats of Gunnar Henderson (2024-2024) and Juan Soto (2024-2024) and Bobby Witt Jr. (2024-2024) including their awards, honors, championships, playoff and regular season stats, and much more on Stathead.com

stathead.com

 

[navamind]

There isn’t a gm in baseball that takes Gunnar over Soto

idk about that. Idk if Gunnar will ever be a better hitter than Soto at his peak, but we're comparing a DH/OF to a SS. A 168 wRC+ from a shortstop is historic, it's the kind of figure you'd expect from peak A-Rod

that's not to say Soto isn't a special player... he is. He might have the best eye in my lifetime aside from Barry. Gunnar's just also a special player

Major League Leaderboards - 2024 - Batting | FanGraphs Baseball

www.fangraphs.com

 

[bksballer89]

I show up to the stadium and DJ goes yard

 

[chappee11]

I show up to the stadium and DJ goes yard

See what happens when you leave the house??

 

[nynasty]

I show up to the stadium and DJ goes yard

You pretty much have to stay there now

 

[Pure Steel]

You pretty much have to stay there now

Yup, can pay the $50 to park and sleep in his car…..lots of hot dog carts and pigeon kabob vendors…..

 

[ThomasTomasz]

idk about that. Idk if Gunnar will ever be a better hitter than Soto at his peak, but we're comparing a DH/OF to a SS. A 168 wRC+ from a shortstop is historic, it's the kind of figure you'd expect from peak A-Rod

that's not to say Soto isn't a special player... he is. He might have the best eye in my lifetime aside from Barry. Gunnar's just also a special player

Major League Leaderboards - 2024 - Batting | FanGraphs Baseball

www.fangraphs.com

The discussion started as who is the better offensive player/threat if I recall correctly, and I’d definitely say Soto. His hit tool and control of the strike zone is hard to replicate. But as you said, that 168 wRC+ from a SS puts him clearly in A-Rod territory pre-NYY.

Henderson is a better defender, hence, higher fWAR, but it’s also very close, not even .5 fWAR apart. Soto is not a bad defender in his own right either, but Henderson is pretty close to top defense at SS.

 

[navamind]

The discussion started as who is the better offensive player/threat if I recall correctly, and I’d definitely say Soto. His hit tool and control of the strike zone is hard to replicate. But as you said, that 168 wRC+ from a SS puts him clearly in A-Rod territory pre-NYY.

Henderson is a better defender, hence, higher fWAR, but it’s also very close, not even .5 fWAR apart. Soto is not a bad defender in his own right either, but Henderson is pretty close to top defense at SS.

I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't even Soto's ceiling. I think he ends up in the top 20 of OPS+ all-time pretty easily by the time he retires.

 

[Pure Steel]

I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't even Soto's ceiling. I think he ends up in the top 20 of OPS+ all-time pretty easily by the time he retires.

If only he walked more…..

 

[bksballer89]

That was fun

Most complete game they played in a while

 

[Pure Steel]

That was fun

Most complete game they played in a while

Your boy Rodon showed up…..he just mentioned you on the YES network

 

[bksballer89]

Paxton is avalable for anyone seeking starter

 

[bksballer89]

Lol

 

[Pure Steel]

Lol

Is he in a bar?

 

[chappee11]

That was fun

Most complete game they played in a while

Was that you keeping score on the 1st base side in the “Nettles” jersey?

 

[navamind]

Paxton is avalable for anyone seeking starter

meh. his peripherals are scary

strikeout rate has cratered, walk rate is high, and his velocity is way down from last year. someone else can have him