AL East 2016 thread

[Pastafazul]

ok, can't win them all, don't like any loss, but if they learned from this loss it will be important down line..... tough to score when you put up 30 in 2 games, pretty normal..... lets go yanks

 

[bksballer89]

ok, can't win them all, don't like any loss, but if they learned from this loss it will be important down line..... tough to score when you put up 30 in 2 games, pretty normal..... lets go yanks

Yeah not going to bitch about winning 2 of 3. Just need to keep on winning series. Pretty big 6 game roadie in Kansas City and Baltimore this week. Really need to aim for 4-2. I will be ok with 3-3 as long as the series we win is the Baltimore series. Can't afford to drop games against them.

 

[navamind]

Sox bullpen in action:

 

[bksballer89]

Royals look scary. I'm afraid about what they're going to do to my Yanks

 

[bksballer89]

Not a bad day for the Yanks all things considered. Will enter this week, tied in losses with the Royals, Stros, and Mariners. 1 more L than the Tigers and 3 more than the 2nd WC leading O's.

 

[navamind]

Royals look scary. I'm afraid about what they're going to do to my Yanks

not really. Sox forgot how to field and the Red Sox bullpen did Red Sox bullpen things.

 

[bksballer89]

not really. Sox forgot how to field and the Red Sox bullpen did Red Sox bullpen things.

Yankees bullpen isn't any better.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Jays look scary. I'm afraid about what they're going to do to my Yanks

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Not a bad day for the Yanks all things considered. Will enter this week, tied in losses with the Royals, Stros, and Mariners. 1 more L than the Tigers and 3 more than the 2nd WC leading O's.

All those teams except for the Royals have been playing like butt, though.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

We needed three weird comebacks to sweep the Twins after losing 2 of 3 to the Angels. The last thing the Jays are right now is scary.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I actually agree. Happ is likely going to regress slightly in this last stretch and probably end up on the outside looking in for the hardware. Hamels is the front runner. Quintana has had a hell of a year.

Shameless Indians Plug:

Since the All-Star Break, Kluber's 6-0, averaging 7 IP/GS, 9.34 K/9 with a 1.75 ERA in nine starts. Rob Neyer's & Bill James' CY Predictor currently has him at #5 with a bullet.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Quintana has had a hell of a year.

He has, but at this point I don't see him in the conversation because he doesn't have enough K's or W's.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

He has, but at this point I don't see him in the conversation because he doesn't have enough K's or W's.

Which matters because...?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Which matters because...?

Because right, wrong, or indifferent, CY voters consider them.

In 2010 Felix Hernandez showed that a low win total can be overcome by dominating the other categories, but Quintana isn't doing that, so his lack of wins is going to hurt his chances.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Because right, wrong, or indifferent, CY voters consider them.

In 2010 Felix Hernandez showed that a low win total can be overcome by dominating the other categories, but Quintana isn't doing that, so his lack of wins is going to hurt his chances.

He has 11 wins, including 3 in 5 starts this month. If he has, say, 6 starts left and manages to win 3 of those he would wind up 14-12 assuming they're all decisions. If he had the best stats (which he doesn't), do you really think he'd lose the Cy because he had 2 fewer W's than Grienke, Webb or Kershaw had when they won? Doubt it.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

He has 11 wins, including 3 in 5 starts this month. If he has, say, 6 starts left and manages to win 3 of those he would wind up 14-12 assuming they're all decisions. If he had the best stats (which he doesn't), do you really think he'd lose the Cy because he had 2 fewer W's than Grienke, Webb or Kershaw had when they won? Doubt it.

Is it actually possible that you typed out the bolded words without knowing what they mean when put together?

Personally, I never look at W/L when evaluating pitchers, but I believe W's can swing CY voting. So do Rob Neyer and Bill James, so I'm in good company in that regard.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Is it actually possible that you typed out the bolded words without knowing what they mean when put together?

Personally, I never look at W/L when evaluating pitchers, but I believe W's can swing CY voting. So do Rob Neyer and Bill James, so I'm in good company in that regard.

I'm not advocating that Quintana should win, i'm just saying that he would lose solely because he only has X many wins would be very surprising today.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I'm not advocating that Quintana should win, i'm just saying that he would lose solely because he only has X many wins would be very surprising today.

No one said he'd lose solely because he only has X many wins.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

No one said he'd lose solely because he only has X many wins.

Well, and K's.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well, and K's.

I don't see the point in this, Danny.

He's in the discussion (though not leading) in IP and ERA, but he's pretty far back in K's and W's, and that's what I said. He's a long shot because of his K's and W's. If he had 190 Ks or 16 wins, he'd be in the conversation.

I don't like W/L, but they're considered by CY voters. If that bothers you, take it up with them.