shopson67
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I hate to give up Kuzma, but for AD......
Griffin is just pushing for as much as he can get. That's also the only reason Ainge is still in the mix; prop-up competition to try to force the Lakers to overpay.
I hate to give up Kuzma, but for AD......
I've seen Kyrie linked to NY, Brooklyn and LA (or staying). But never out of Kyrie's mouth.
Ingram, Lonzo and 4 isn't all that strong though. It is possible nobody else offers better, but I kind of doubt that gets it done.
I am surprised there isn't more chatter about the Knicks right now. They should be aggressively in these talks given AD's wish list. Because I believe AD probably resigns in NY, but he probably does not pick them over LA next summer if he ends up in a rental team.
I seem to remember quite a bit of talk about the Cavs and C's talking Kyrie. It was still surprising when it happened but it wasn't completely out of the blue.don't forget these deals went down without many (any?) knowing the teams were in talks
Kyrie to Cs
CP to Houston
Blake to Detroit
PG to OKC
Harris to Philly
They got the chance to have Kuzma. Along with everyone else on the Lakers team not called Lebron and they declined it in February.
The pelicans don't have any leverage any more, especially since Rich Pauls statement this morning. Boston isn't going to throw any extra players in for a one year rental.
Ingram, Lonzo and the #4 pick is literally the best offer on the table right now. Don't want it? The Lakers can wait.
Move the #4 and Solomon Hill to Atlanta, Pels get #8 and #10 and enough cap space for a max contract.
No, the Lakers can't wait. If they don't get AD...Lebron will not be happy. Although there are not many teams making strong offers for AD it seems the Pelicans still have leverage, unless LA pulls a 3rd team into the mix--the Pelicans will ask for what they want from the Lakers and they will get it.
I doubt ATL is giving up both 8 and 10, pick one or the other and take their mid-round pick as well
Ingram, Lonzo and 4 isn't all that strong though. It is possible nobody else offers better, but I kind of doubt that gets it done.
I am surprised there isn't more chatter about the Knicks right now. They should be aggressively in these talks given AD's wish list. Because I believe AD probably resigns in NY, but he probably does not pick them over LA next summer if he ends up in a rental team.
What is that leverage? That they'll hold onto AD until the deadline and get even less for him? Or are you talking the Celtics facade?
8 and 10, 8 and 17, whatever gets the deal done. I left 17 out of it because it was also an as of yet uncompleted trade.
In Cleveland and not sure I know anyone here who saw that deal coming.I seem to remember quite a bit of talk about the Cavs and C's talking Kyrie. It was still surprising when it happened but it wasn't completely out of the blue.
The rest were more surprising.
Report: Celtics have expressed interest in IrvingIn Cleveland and not sure I know anyone here who saw that deal coming.
You knew of a story by Patrick Britton from The score? I guess.
Tatum plus.
Tatum is the best, most attractive single asset out there.
So a deal along the lines of:
- Tatum
- Smart
- Throw in player (Williams?)
- Couple of 1sts
Griffin is just pushing for as much as he can get. That's also the only reason Ainge is still in the mix; prop-up competition to try to force the Lakers to overpay.
Including Tatum would probably give the Celtics the edge. Tatum isn't that much more attractive than Ingram, if at all, from an ability/upside perspective. But Ingram has missed a lot of games over the last 2 seasons and Tatum hasn't.
So, even if Griffin liked Ingram more than Tatum (not saying he does), I expect Griffin would have at least some concern about his ability to stay healthy.
The question for the Celtics however is...do you really want to give up Tatum and a potential long run for 1 year of AD (assuming Rich Paul's 1 year threat is real)? Especially if Kyrie leaves as it looks like he's going to.