AD chasing Emmitt

[Manster7588]

To me no, I look at what a player had to go through, and who he faced. Babe was a god to men, Aaron and Mays were well you know, as for Griffey Jr. if he would not have such bad luck with injuries he would be the only player in modern day history to be on top of the HR record without any PED's or illegal substances, not to mention best swing of all time.

Ted Williams served 4+years in war. I don't think any of the players you listed went through that. Also Williams is considered the greatest hitter by many in baseball history.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Right. I was noticing Calvin Johnson is moving up those WR lists rather quickly. About 3 seasons before he passes Irvin on the yardage chart? Good chance of Megatron passing Michael's TDs this season?

Don't worry Dez will be there to restore the balance again

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Commenting on this topic got me interested in watching some Barry Sanders film. I watched a good bit of it yesterday just to refresh my memory. Man, Barry was great! Incredibly humble as well. I find it a little ridiculous people hate on the guy for walking away from the game. He gave his alll on the field through 10 years of stellar production while missing very little time. The Lions were not committed to winning so he decided to call it quits. He could of hung around for selfish reasons and got the record -- and if he wanted to, probably could of put it out of reach of Emmitt. His prime lasted his entire career, and he showed no signs of slowing down when he left. I don't know of any other player who can say that after playing for 10 years.

After watching the video, I can't help but feel that all this talk of Barry not ever being in the game in short yardage situations is a little overstated. No, he didn't get the carries that Emmitt did in those situations but he was not inept either. Also, some in this thread have tried to make the argument that Barry was a selfish free lancer who was afraid of contact. I don't see a whole lot of that in the tape. I see Sanders facing a lot of pressure in the backfield often forcing him to improvise. I don't see him shy away from contact when it was necessary. Very few players have broken as many tackles and, I would bet the house no one has more yards after first contact. Barry didn't have a lead blocker either. We all know about the MOOOOOOSSSSEEEEE!!!

One other thing that stood out in all that old film was how often Barry's contemporaries called him the best. It was universal from the players to the announcers. In one of the games I watched from the 1995 season, Pat Summerall and Madden were commenting and Summerall brought up how Emmitt was complaining in season how everyone was paying attention to Barry and not Emmitt. Madden and Summerall went on to talk about how Barry was the best in the game and how all the players in the game agreed. This was a recurring theme in the game commentary from game to game and year to year.

As I have said Barry was the better runner, Smith was the more complete back. Take it how you want it. I just could never put Barry as #1 due to his heart, I don't like a guy that quits. He could have forced his way out of Detroit via trade, anyone would have gave an arm and a leg for him especially the Skins at that time who wanted him dearly. My top 3 Sweetness, Smith, and Brown all had probably the most heart out of any backs ever to play include AP in that list and you will understand not because of talent, but because of heart AP will probably own ever record known to man and walk away as the best to ever do it. What makes a player great? So many have talent and you can't just judge it on that, because Ryan Leaf had talent and look what happen to him, Jerry Rice one of the least talented players from a physical standpoint ever to play the game, had so much heart he would practice catching bricks, stay after everyone left, and did more to improve his game than numerous others did. It's when you combine those qualities with the physical talent that you often times get a great player like AP, but in all Heart is and will always be the greatest measurable anyone can have. Heart is something a lot of our players don't have and is a major reason we don't go as far as we should. I love Miles Austin but he has very little heart, Dez is starting to become one of if not my favorite player because no matter what he will give his all, that man has heart, and even though his actions have not always been right, he gives his all and even when others are trying to take him down in life and on the field he fights through it and comes out on top. Romo knock him all you want, but man has heart will fight through anything.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Ted Williams served 4+years in war. I don't think any of the players you listed went through that. Also Williams is considered the greatest hitter by many in baseball history.

4 years of a War versus being in your own country and living a war your entire life as a black man? I'd say Aaron and Mays both went through that and more. Doubt Williams' wife was ever told she would be killed, doubt Williams ever had to worry about if he would be burned alive, doubt Williams ever worried if he would be jumped while his wife was raped in front of him, doubt Williams was ever told he could not use a particular restroom, doubt Williams was ridiculed and mocked for playing a game he loved so much, please don't ever compare 4 years of a war where after Williams was herald as a king upon return to a lifetime of being called the N word which was the least of the abuse.

 

[Mitziman]

Emmitt Smith is like Pete Rose of MLB. Was Pete the "best of all time" at his position? Hell No.

There are at least 4 RB's playing today that are better than Emmitt ever was. C. Johnson, A. Foster, and AP...and, maybe the best of them all when it is all said and done might be...Jamaal Charles.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Emmitt Smith is like Pete Rose of MLB. Was Pete the "best of all time" at his position? Hell No.

There are at least 4 RB's playing today that are better than Emmitt ever was. C. Johnson, A. Foster, and AP...and, maybe the best of them all when it is all said and done might be...Jamaal Charles.

I don't do this often, so you should know that when I do post a reply like this you should take notice. But please STFU, you sound silly right now. I love Charles, know him personally but to say what you just said is silly, he has played 5 seasons, only has 4,500 rushing yards lets say he plays another 5 and averages 2,000 yards those 5 years, he STILL won't have as many yards as Smith. Now to the even funnier part is where you say current players are better than Smith, wow are you seriously saying that Johnson, Peterson, Foster, and Charles if they stop playing today would go into the Hall of Fame first time around? If so kill yourself, because that is exactly what you just said when you say they are better than him. IF and only IF all these players play another 7 years at the pace they are at will AP be better than Smith. Foster the wheels will fall off soon trust me on that, and when Charles and Johnson loose a step lol well they will be about as average of a back as you will see in the NFL.

 

[cowboycolors]

Emmitt Smith is like Pete Rose of MLB. Was Pete the "best of all time" at his position? Hell No.

There are at least 4 RB's playing today that are better than Emmitt ever was. C. Johnson, A. Foster, and AP...and, maybe the best of them all when it is all said and done might be...Jamaal Charles.

Ya know lucy said it best "good grief Charlie Brown"



all those young men are good players but so far none of them measure up to Smith AP being the only 1 that's close and I wanted the Cowboys to draft Johnson over

 

[Mitziman]

I don't do this often, so you should know that when I do post a reply like this you should take notice. But please STFU, you sound silly right now. I love Charles, know him personally but to say what you just said is silly, he has played 5 seasons, only has 4,500 rushing yards lets say he plays another 5 and averages 2,000 yards those 5 years, he STILL won't have as many yards as Smith. Now to the even funnier part is where you say current players are better than Smith, wow are you seriously saying that Johnson, Peterson, Foster, and Charles if they stop playing today would go into the Hall of Fame first time around? If so kill yourself, because that is exactly what you just said when you say they are better than him. IF and only IF all these players play another 7 years at the pace they are at will AP be better than Smith. Foster the wheels will fall off soon trust me on that, and when Charles and Johnson loose a step lol well they will be about as average of a back as you will see in the NFL.

Look, don't misunderstand what I am saying here. Emmitt Smith was one of the greatest RB's in NFL history. Emmitt was blessed with one of the top 5-6 OL in history, and was blessed with not having a major injury.

I would bet that if you asked any NFL GM or HC if they could have any RB present/past in their prime and as they picked, that player was taken off the list...Emmitt would not even be a top 10 pick.

 

[CarlSr]

Like I said, trolling is easy when it comes to this topic, not that there aren't legitimately idiots out there.

 

[cowboycolors]

And I would bet your wrong

 

[PDay8810]

Emmitt Smith is like Pete Rose of MLB. Was Pete the "best of all time" at his position? Hell No.

There are at least 4 RB's playing today that are better than Emmitt ever was. C. Johnson, A. Foster, and AP...and, maybe the best of them all when it is all said and done might be...Jamaal Charles.

this would be an idiot alert

 

[Nosferatu]

IF and only IF all these players play another 7 years at the pace they are at will AP be better than Smith.

A player doesn't need to rush for more yards than Emmitt to be better than he was. I keep using the same comparison but it works so what the hell, does a player have to pass Pete Rose in hits to be better than he was? Answer is of course not. I will agree right now CJ, Foster and Charles should not be in the same conversation as Emmitt but IMO which one might consider homerish AD is a much better RB than Emmitt ever was.

Let the attacks begin...

 

[PDay8810]

A player doesn't need to rush for more yards than Emmitt to be better than he was. I keep using the same comparison but it works so what the hell, does a player have to pass Pete Rose in hits to be better than he was? Answer is of course not. I will agree right now CJ, Foster and Charles should not be in the same conversation as Emmitt but IMO which one might consider homerish AD is a much better RB than Emmitt ever was.

Let the attacks begin...

WHY?
your opinion is flawed and you state it here for the attention you crave
thankfully....your bull shit don't matter

 

[cowboycolors]

A player doesn't need to rush for more yards than Emmitt to be better than he was. I keep using the same comparison but it works so what the hell, does a player have to pass Pete Rose in hits to be better than he was? Answer is of course not. I will agree right now CJ, Foster and Charles should not be in the same conversation as Emmitt but IMO which one might consider homerish AD is a much better RB than Emmitt ever was.

Let the attacks begin...

no attack but the heck is AD ?

Do you mean Adrian Peterson?

 

[PDay8810]

"didn't mean to hurt your feelings"

I always find this funny. I didn't see anyone's feelings hurt but this guy wants to assume he's convincing someone. Pin a star on you little man

 

[Schmoopy1000]

A player doesn't need to rush for more yards than Emmitt to be better than he was. I keep using the same comparison but it works so what the hell, does a player have to pass Pete Rose in hits to be better than he was? Answer is of course not. I will agree right now CJ, Foster and Charles should not be in the same conversation as Emmitt but IMO which one might consider homerish AD is a much better RB than Emmitt ever was.

Let the attacks begin...

I don't think anyone is arguing that AD has a legit possibility to being the best when it is all said & done. its all the other names being thrown in there where it gets ridiculous. I don't see anything wrong with this particular post.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

no attack but the heck is AD ?

Do you mean Adrian Peterson?

yes he does. Petersons nick name is All Day (AD)

 

[Nosferatu]

Pin a star on you little man

Stop you're scaring me...

 

[Manster7588]

4 years of a War versus being in your own country and living a war your entire life as a black man? I'd say Aaron and Mays both went through that and more. Doubt Williams' wife was ever told she would be killed, doubt Williams ever had to worry about if he would be burned alive, doubt Williams ever worried if he would be jumped while his wife was raped in front of him, doubt Williams was ever told he could not use a particular restroom, doubt Williams was ridiculed and mocked for playing a game he loved so much, please don't ever compare 4 years of a war where after Williams was herald as a king upon return to a lifetime of being called the N word which was the least of the abuse.

I agree both Mays, Arron many other black Americans had to deal with great amounts of racists threats. I will admit it most likely screwed with their careers,but how can you say staying at home with your family is tougher than flying fighters in war. Especially WWII and the Korean War. The I'd venture to say their were more deaths around Williams in those 4+year versus Arron and Mays combined. We all know white America yelled racial slurs and threw things at Mays and other black baseball players. We know Arron received death threats as he approached the HR record. But come on. Ted was being shot at in a war. Lets agree to disagree.

 

[Nosferatu]

WHY?
your opinion is flawed and you state it here for the attention you crave
thankfully....your bull shit don't matter

Why so defensive? I'm not here attacking anyone and you come accross like the Cowboys board cop, if you dont like my opinion don't read it.