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Pau looked a little agéd last year... I'm worried that a good coach and system couldn't even squeeze more out of him.
i dunno...limit his minutes. not many big men out there who can grab rebounds. he was definitely on the slide last year, but he still averaged almost 12 and 8 a game in the lowest minutes of his career. first time under 31.4.
 

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Pau looked a little agéd last year... I'm worried that a good coach and system couldn't even squeeze more out of him.


I wanted to see millsap end up in a better spot

Thought OKC was perfect

He went to die in Denver
 

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Celtics in the East, Wolves in the West.
 

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id like to see the celtics go for gasol in SA.

hard to believe hes only 36...coming off a bad year in SA. he'd be perfect here for this team short term.

With what money? With the Hayward signing they are at the cap limit. Only way that they get someone else would be for them to dump a bunch of other players (beyond the ones that they got rid of to sign Hayward). Even if possible - probably not worth it to sign someone like Gasol for the short term.

The real upside for the Celtics is how they will be positioned for 2018/19 & beyond. Let's be real - nobody is going to take down the Warriors next season barring major injuries so why go crazy just for next season?
 

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With what money? With the Hayward signing they are at the cap limit. Only way that they get someone else would be for them to dump a bunch of other players (beyond the ones that they got rid of to sign Hayward). Even if possible - probably not worth it to sign someone like Gasol for the short term.

The real upside for the Celtics is how they will be positioned for 2018/19 & beyond. Let's be real - nobody is going to take down the Warriors next season barring major injuries so why go crazy just for next season?
they are doing a sign and trade for hayward as we speak, involving crowder and others, to clear cap space for him. move more guys, free up cash for gasol. they need rebounding.
 

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Rock I also dont see the Gasol deal making sense
 

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Rock I also dont see the Gasol deal making sense
long time no speak logic.

just tossing ideas out there.

ainge is stripping salaries as we speak.
 

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they are doing a sign and trade for hayward as we speak, involving crowder and others, to clear cap space for him. move more guys, free up cash for gasol. they need rebounding.

As a Pau Gasol fanboy from even before he was a Laker, I would hate seeing him in Celtic green.

However, if the C's could get him, that would be a huge get. He would fit in really well. He's a great locker room guy, brings championship experience.

He's getting a little long in the tooth, but he could really make some positive contributions playing about 18-22 minutes per game. Especially when the playoffs start.
 

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As a Pau Gasol fanboy from even before he was a Laker, I would hate seeing him in Celtic green.

However, if the C's could get him, that would be a huge get. He would fit in really well. He's a great locker room guy, brings championship experience.

He's getting a little long in the tooth, but he could really make some positive contributions playing about 18-22 minutes per game. Especially when the playoffs start.
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....and came back multiple times.

Shit, they are even making a sequel.

It was a joke that people make about his movies, not to be taken literally.

Besides, even if you count those 2, that's 2 out of 46. That makes the likelihood 95%.
 

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long time no speak logic.

just tossing ideas out there.

ainge is stripping salaries as we speak.

Celtics need some CAP room for signing IT and then probably two more lottery picks next year. Thats going to be $40M total my guess. Yes they can go over IF they sign IT first but Gasol is just too rich imo. The only other topic would be trading Horford which I am against. Its Marc they are discussing not Pau
 

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Celtics need some CAP room for signing IT and then probably two more lottery picks next year. Thats going to be $40M total my guess. Yes they can go over IF they sign IT first but Gasol is just too rich imo. The only other topic would be trading Horford which I am against. Its Marc they are discussing not Pau
what about marc vs pau?

no idea how they are going to add another body, but they need to IMO.
 

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Pau would want a $15m times 2 years deal. Dont see it being good for us especially at his age. Here is two very interesting trades:

1. Okafor- Yup I said it. You could trade Smart and pieces and get him back as a big. Okafor is a piece you could see if it fits and if not his deal is up in a year. Celts could free enough in that to make cap work
2. Porzingis - Yup, dare I say it but Porzingis money deal really works for the Celts. They would need to give up smart, and three round 1 picks. Seems crazy but numbers work
 

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Pau would want a $15m times 2 years deal. Dont see it being good for us especially at his age. Here is two very interesting trades:

1. Okafor- Yup I said it. You could trade Smart and pieces and get him back as a big. Okafor is a piece you could see if it fits and if not his deal is up in a year. Celts could free enough in that to make cap work
2. Porzingis - Yup, dare I say it but Porzingis money deal really works for the Celts. They would need to give up smart, and three round 1 picks. Seems crazy but numbers work

i dont want any part of okafor

ive wanted porzingas since he was mentioned, but i think with phil gone, thats his team.
 

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yup I agree. They should build around him but they have only a few years to prove themselves worthy.
 

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yup I agree. They should build around him but they have only a few years to prove themselves worthy.
that reminds me, when did phil jackson go from the king of cool riding harleys and smoking J's to a bitter old lady?
 

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Actually Trojanfan gave me shit about my optimism on Phil. Seems Phils brain was still sitting in LA when he took the job
 

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Actually Trojanfan gave me shit about my optimism on Phil. Seems Phils brain was still sitting in LA when he took the job

Yeah, I never got the logic jump that Phil the HOF coach would be a great front office guy. He always clashed with his front office guys and basically ran off Jerry West (and would've run off Kobe early on if he could've).
 

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Yeah, I never got the logic jump that Phil the HOF coach would be a great front office guy. He always clashed with his front office guys and basically ran off Jerry West (and would've run off Kobe early on if he could've).


From a Knicks fan perspective, I can tell you the BIG attraction was the thought that his presence alone would draw the big name stars, thats about the only thing that generated all the optimism....And dont forget, the year he was hired was the year everyone knew Lebron was bolting Miami, so yeah, there was a realistic discussion that Phil could lure Lebron to NY
 
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