A Little FA News

[trojanfan12]

The first round pick is the pot of gold for the Lakers, but that first round pick from Houston is a gamble - might be good, but down there in the numbers - 30 teams and that one is hanging around at the bottom 8 seeds. I am not hopeful for the Clippers pick even if the Lakers get it - players that far down in the draft seldom become note worthy, and the Orlando pick is far down enough that it could either way. I think the Lakers can count for sure on that first pick and hope for at least one major signing. That would be enough to turn things around and make the Lakers look attractive for 2016. I just don't see this happening quickly as in this summer, but would love to see it happen

Yeah, keeping that top 5 pick would be a very good thing. The coming draft is said to not be very deep, so the Lakers would likely be looking to pick up a prospect to develop or maybe a guy like Clarkson who is a potential steal because he dropped.

I could also see them perhaps packaging one or 2 of those picks (they potentially have 4) with a player in a trade.

 

[Retroram52]

I'm thinking that Sacre is going to get a tad better as that fill-in guy, middle tier on the bench. He played better in the second half then he did in the first against the magic yesterday. I am going to keep an eye on him and see if he continues to develop an offensive repertoire that is consistent and respectable. His D is pretty decent and there are some areas still that need work but he's coming along.

Kelly is finding his rhythm as well. He shot threes last night fairly easily. He needs more playing time like so many on this roster. I see him sticking with us in the future.

Wesley Johnson is the guy that is going south in a hurry. He so sporadic and the only reason he is on this roster at this point is Scott designated him the main D guy. That is starting to falter a bit. I suspect he may be gone after this year unless he gets more consistent. Same goes with Price.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm thinking that Sacre is going to get a tad better as that fill-in guy, middle tier on the bench. He played better in the second half then he did in the first against the magic yesterday. I am going to keep an eye on him and see if he continues to develop an offensive repertoire that is consistent and respectable. His D is pretty decent and there are some areas still that need work but he's coming along.

Kelly is finding his rhythm as well. He shot threes last night fairly easily. He needs more playing time like so many on this roster. I see him sticking with us in the future.

Wesley Johnson is the guy that is going south in a hurry. He so sporadic and the only reason he is on this roster at this point is Scott designated him the main D guy. That is starting to falter a bit. I suspect he may be gone after this year unless he gets more consistent. Same goes with Price.

Unless something "clicks" with him, I think the end of this season will be time to end the Wesley Johnson experiment. It's too bad, because he is a gifted athlete and if he played to his talent level on a consistent basis, he could be like a young Shawn Marion. Unfortunately, he just doesn't seem to have what it takes to get himself to that next level of development.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It takes a few years for most players to develop though, so you have to give Sacre and the others another year to see if they become quality worth keeping. That development process does not happen over night for any employee in any organization including sports for the most part. Sometimes yet, but not most of the time

 

[wildturkey]

Keep dreaming with Bobby Sac. He's never going to get any better. He's capped out as an end of the bench guy. You can always find guys like him on the scrap heap. Heck, LA just found one this year in Tarik Black that stands a real chance to actually be decent. There is no reason to keep him around unless you are that desperate to fill that bench slot or need a guy for creative towel celebrations

 

[trojanfan12]

Keep dreaming with Bobby Sac. He's never going to get any better. He's capped out as an end of the bench guy. You can always find guys like him on the scrap heap. Heck, LA just found one this year in Tarik Black that stands a real chance to actually be decent. There is no reason to keep him around unless you are that desperate to fill that bench slot or need a guy for creative towel celebrations

Yeah, I like Sacre, but you're right. End of the bench guy. I posted in another thread that I think he's an ideal end of the bench guy. He's good in the locker room, has a positive attitude, works hard and every once in a while, he'll give you some quality minutes. But if he plays much more than a few minutes here and there, he starts showing why he's an end of the bench guy.

 

[wildturkey]

The other thing to keep in mind with Sacre is his contract. I don't have the exact details in front of me but I believe there are provisions in the CBA where if a guy has played for his current team X amount of years, he's due more cash in annual raises and also has other contract benefits. That's fine for quality players, but a player of his skillset, that's not worth it to teams. You can save that extra mil or whatever it is by ditching him and finding a guy of equal value without the tenure.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Keep dreaming with Bobby Sac. He's never going to get any better. He's capped out as an end of the bench guy. You can always find guys like him on the scrap heap. Heck, LA just found one this year in Tarik Black that stands a real chance to actually be decent. There is no reason to keep him around unless you are that desperate to fill that bench slot or need a guy for creative towel celebrations

To be honest I think all of them on the team belong on the bench We got a great selection for the bench which means two major signings and a healthy Kobe would be three of the five starters we need. Julius Randle and that First round draft pick might finish the team though

 

[trojanfan12]

To be honest I think all of them on the team belong on the bench We got a great selection for the bench which means two major signings and a healthy Kobe would be three of the five starters we need. Julius Randle and that First round draft pick might finish the team though

The Lakers have the best bench in the league. Unfortunately, they are our starters.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Clarkson should be Kobe's replacement at SG when he reires. He's showing a lot of promise, but he's more of a scorer than a natural passer. They need to try and sign a PG this summer and a big imo.

 

[trojanfan12]

Clarkson should be Kobe's replacement at SG when he reires. He's showing a lot of promise, but he's more of a scorer than a natural passer. They need to try and sign a PG this summer and a big imo.

Not a bad idea. That would also give Clarkson another year to develop and he could learn a lot spending next season as Kobe's understudy.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

The Lakers have the best bench in the league. Unfortunately, they are our starters.

First I laughed at your response, then I cried

 

[wildturkey]

To be honest I think all of them on the team belong on the bench We got a great selection for the bench which means two major signings and a healthy Kobe would be three of the five starters we need. Julius Randle and that First round draft pick might finish the team though

For the most part, yes. Hill is starter worthy, just not a guy you want to be running things thru. He's not a 1st or 2nd option, not really a 3 either. Lin could be a low level starter but is probably better suited as a back up guard. The rest are pretty much just rotational pieces except for Sacre and Price. Those two are basically end of the bench, don't play them unless everyone else is hurt types of guys.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

For the most part, yes. Hill is starter worthy, just not a guy you want to be running things thru. He's not a 1st or 2nd option, not really a 3 either. Lin could be a low level starter but is probably better suited as a back up guard. The rest are pretty much just rotational pieces except for Sacre and Price. Those two are basically end of the bench, don't play them unless everyone else is hurt types of guys.

Obviously determining who the reserves will be - won't be a problem - The Lakers has an excellent group to choose from - the real problem will be determining who the new five starters should be

 

[OutlawImmortal]

This is kind of FA related, there's a rumor out there about the Suns seeking a first rounder for Dragic. Would it be possible for the Lakers to trade their first rounder this year to the Suns? And if so, would you do it? It seems like we're well on our way to the #1 pick and with all these FA planning on signing 1 year deals, it might not be worth it.

Personally, I would do it if he signs a long term deal with the franchise.

 

[trojanfan12]

This is kind of FA related, there's a rumor out there about the Suns seeking a first rounder for Dragic. Would it be possible for the Lakers to trade their first rounder this year to the Suns? And if so, would you do it? It seems like we're well on our way to the #1 pick and with all these FA planning on signing 1 year deals, it might not be worth it.

Personally, I would do it if he signs a long term deal with the franchise.

The problem is, the Suns will probably want a lottery pick first rounder. I don't think the Lakers could trade the lottery first rounder because it is technically the Suns pick (just top 5 protected) and I doubt the first rounder from Houston will be high enough for Dragic.

What I don't know, is whether or not they could trade the player they got with the lottery pick to the Suns. They may be able to set a deal where the Suns tell them who to pick and then they make the trade at some point after the draft.

Another possibility might be trading the first rounder from Houston and a player. The Suns need size, so maybe Hill, Davis or Black and the pick from Houston for Dragic?

 

[lakersrule]

The last time the Lakers traded for a player in the last year of his contract, he bolted the following summer. I wouldn't risk it. I like Dragic but would wait until the summer time and try to get him as an UFA, if at all. He'll be 29yo at the start of next season.

 

[wildturkey]

This is kind of FA related, there's a rumor out there about the Suns seeking a first rounder for Dragic. Would it be possible for the Lakers to trade their first rounder this year to the Suns? And if so, would you do it? It seems like we're well on our way to the #1 pick and with all these FA planning on signing 1 year deals, it might not be worth it.

Personally, I would do it if he signs a long term deal with the franchise.

If we owned our own pick, I would absolutely trade the Houston pick for him. But since we don't, it's not worth it. Dragic is a good enough player that he would win a handful of games for us. That handful of games could easily be the difference that knocks out of the Top 5 and we lose our pick to the Suns. Dragic for Hou's first rounder is worth it. But losing both first rounders because we won too many games isn't.

I feel a lot more confident in just hoping no one trades for him in the next week and then signing him in the offseason.

 

[Retroram52]

I am with lakersrule on this one. We don't need another player entering into the twilight of his career and giving up a number one to do it. Haven't we learned anything from recent trades of this nature?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Truthfully - It would be retarded for the Lakers to trade anything away besides a first round draft pick in a premium position. FYI: No team in their right mind is going to take Lin or Boozer in a trade unless the Lakers are paying them dearly by giving them a pick. They are streaky scrubs with no face value at all. The Lakers are losing and working hard to lose for that protected pick, so the only way they can make it better is to make it worse for the rest of the season. Jordan Hill for example might get the Lakers a first round pick in the top 10, but I wouldn't give him up for anything lower than a 10. Just not worth it.


I say the Lakers hold court, continue losing and see what develops this summer unless the Lakers can pick up a quality first round pick.