A.L. Central Smack 2015

[SlinkyRedfoot]

We all know tigers own the central.

No team has finished in the basement of the AL Central more times than the Detroit Tigers.

 

[da55bums]

Da bums says Frazer is going to take south siders to the top. BAWWWWHAASSSS. We all know tigers own the central. Royals had 2 good years..reminds me of little brother in east lansing...small stretch of not sucking.but reality sets in. Things return to the natural order of class and position. ..

lol, never said they would be at the top, just above the tigers.

White Sox topped the Tigers without Frazier, the only thing the Tigers have done is improved their bullpen so far.

 

[da55bums]

hilarious how you take "white sox getting Frazier will keep the tigers in the cellar" and make up so much other nonsense out of it..

Where did I say

White sox will now be winners
White sox now have a good lineup
White sox will now be contenters in the Central

damn, you make up so much stuff you don't even realize how much you do it. Let me reiterate, THE WHITE SOX TOPPED THE TIGERS LAST YEAR WITHOUT FRAZIER, THEY COULD FINISH 4th again and still beat the TIGERS WHO Haven't improved on a team that finished 5TH yet.

didn't think I would need to explain a 1 line comment to you.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Tigers allowed, by far, more runs than any other team in the entire AL, and they'll start 2016 without their best Pitcher from 2015.

Could someone please explain to me why their fans are trying to talk about teams that shouldn't be taken seriously?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Yup.

Totally.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

the only thing the Tigers have done is improved their bullpen so far.

I disagree with that. If we're looking at what they have now compared to what they had at the start of 2015, they've lost their ace.

 

[MiamiVice]

lol, never said they would be at the top, just above the tigers.

White Sox topped the Tigers without Frazier, the only thing the Tigers have done is improved their bullpen so far.

You do realize the Tigers offense was one of the best in baseball last year right?? They had the highest team BA in the MLB.. and one of the top OBP and runs scored. Their issue WAS the bullpen. They fixed it. The White Sox issue was getting on base... NOT hitting HR. Frazier doesn't fix anything that was wrong with the White Sox shit offense. His OBP was garbage. His defense was average or below on most metrics. Acting like adding Frazier to the White Sox is more of a fix to the White Sox than the Tigers bullpen additions is comical really... but go right ahead bums... Thats a prediction I am going to hold on to in my pocket for later.

 

[MiamiVice]

I disagree with that. If we're looking at what they have now compared to what they had at the start of 2015, they've lost their ace.

There is no way you can argue the Tigers rotation going into 2016 isn't better than what they had in 2015 to start.. Verlander was out until June and wasn't fully healthy until July... They started off with a rotation of Price, Sanchez, Simon, Greene, and Lobstein. If you think that is better than Verlander, Zimmerman, Sanchez, Pelfrey, and Norris.. You are retarded. Yeah they lost Price... But they also lost 3 pitchers from their rotation that had ERA above 5... and replaced them with 2 pitchers with ERA in the 3's and one in the 4's... AND Sanchez was not healthy either.. and big IF... but if he is healthy you can argue that every spot in the rotation is improved over last year outside of Price.. which a healthy Verlander proved... he can be every bit as good... Look at Verlander's numbers after the All Star break compared to Price... They are very similiar.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

There is no way you can argue the Tigers rotation going into 2016 isn't better than what they had in 2015 to start.. Verlander was out until June and wasn't fully healthy until July... They started off with a rotation of Price, Sanchez, Simon, Greene, and Lobstein. If you think that is better than Verlander, Zimmerman, Sanchez, Pelfrey, and Norris.. You are retarded. Yeah they lost Price... But they also lost 3 pitchers from their rotation that had ERA above 5... and replaced them with 2 pitchers with ERA in the 3's and one in the 4's... AND Sanchez was not healthy either.. and big IF... but if he is healthy you can argue that every spot in the rotation is improved over last year outside of Price.. which a healthy Verlander proved... he can be every bit as good... Look at Verlander's numbers after the All Star break compared to Price... They are very similiar.

MIKE PELFREY

BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

 

[MiamiVice]

I am sorry.. but there isn't a single expert saying the White Sox have improved more than the Tigers did this offseason. You won't hear it either. They have more holes in their lineup than swiss cheese. You can argue that as of right now they have below average hitters in RF/SS/2nd/C/DH. That is over half their lineup with a negative WAR going into the season... But they got Frazier!!! LOL

 

[MiamiVice]

MIKE PELFREY

BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA

Pelfrey last year was light years better than Simon.. so yeah.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Pelfrey last year was light years better than Simon.. so yeah.

Considering his obnoxiously fluke start though? There is a really solid like 50/50 his era is 5 or very close to it this year.

That guy just flat sucks. Rest of your rotation is def an improvement assuming health and Zimmerman doing fine with the switch.

 

[MiamiVice]

Considering his obnoxiously fluke start though? There is a really solid like 50/50 his era is 5 or very close to it this year.

That guy just flat sucks. Rest of your rotation is def an improvement assuming health and Zimmerman doing fine with the switch.

zimmerman has an era of 3.05 vs AL teams in his career over 8 years.. so odds are he will be fine with the switch.. Pelfrey is a gamble.. I don't know why the hell they signed him so fast when they could have waited to fill the roster spot and probably gotten much better for the same price range... In no way do I like the signing... but to say that the rotation isn't better than what they started last year with is wrong.. with Verlander not even starting his first game until june.. and having to have Lobstein in the rotation.. the fact the Tigers were in first into May is a miracle honestly.

 

[da55bums]

You do realize the Tigers offense was one of the best in baseball last year right?? They had the highest team BA in the MLB.. and one of the top OBP and runs scored. Their issue WAS the bullpen. They fixed it. The White Sox issue was getting on base... NOT hitting HR. Frazier doesn't fix anything that was wrong with the White Sox shit offense. His OBP was garbage. His defense was average or below on most metrics. Acting like adding Frazier to the White Sox is more of a fix to the White Sox than the Tigers bullpen additions is comical really... but go right ahead bums... Thats a prediction I am going to hold on to in my pocket for later.

You do know that Tigers offense got them 5th place

You do know you get to touch all the bases when you hit a HR right.

You do know that they have "fixed" the bullpen every year and it seems like the bad juice is actually in the clubhouse or bullpen.

You hang your hat on that prediction, for the record since you make so much crap up as we all just witnessed, "White Sox getting Frazier could keep the Tigers in the cellar." there was my EXACT big "prediction"

 

[MiamiVice]

You do know that Tigers offense got them 5th place

You do know you get to touch all the bases when you hit a HR right.

You do know that they have "fixed" the bullpen every year and it seems like the bad juice is actually in the clubhouse or bullpen.

You hang your hat on that prediction, for the record since you make so much crap up as we all just witnessed, "White Sox getting Frazier could keep the Tigers in the cellar." there was my EXACT big "prediction"

The Tigers offense didn't get them 5th place.. Their pitching did. They clearly had one of the better offenses in baseball last year.

You do know that if you hit a HR when nobody else is on base.. its just one run right? White Sox can't get on base... Who cares if they hit 2 or 3 HR every game.... which they won't... They don't have good enough starting pitching to win when their offense can't score more than a couple runs every game.

LOL.. using something so frail as saying COULD now? LOL... LOL... LOL.

 

[da55bums]

I said COULD at the very beginning, you made so much shit up after you obviously completely ignored the actual FACTS in the sentence. Its not hard to go back 1 page.

 

[MiamiVice]

Just admit it bums.. you are smart enough to know that you bit off more than you can chew with the comment about the Frazier trade... The White Sox starting rotation is not better than last year... Their lineup is gross... and the addition of Frazier didn't change that... I hope you were just trying to get a rise out of Doug.

 

[MiamiVice]

I said COULD at the very beginning, you made so much shit up after you obviously completely ignored the actual FACTS in the sentence. Its not hard to go back 1 page.

LOL... you are such a clown.

 

[da55bums]

this is almost as bad as discussing Pelfrey vs Simon.

We are arguing about which team with finish 4th or 5th.

 

[da55bums]

Just admit it bums.. you are smart enough to know that you bit off more than you can chew with the comment about the Frazier trade... The White Sox starting rotation is not better than last year... Their lineup is gross... and the addition of Frazier didn't change that... I hope you were just trying to get a rise out of Doug.

admit what? That you have bad reading comprehension skills, problems with interpretation.

You made up 3 posts of bullshit that I didn't even come CLOSE to saying about a line I thought was funny about 1 guy that COULD keep a team in 4th over a team in 5th.

Your arguing with yourself on this one, you made up the argument out of nothing, you win, you beat yourself, congrats.