A.L. Central Smack 2015

[MiamiVice]

I don't see anyone with a straight line at the average....

 

[MiamiVice]

No stability doesn't mean there isn't a difference in batting with runners in scoring position and when they are not.... you are just seeing what you want.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

No stability doesn't mean there isn't a difference in batting with runners in scoring position and when they are not.... you are just seeing what you want.

It's from an article that comes to a conclusion that there isn't clutch.

 

[MiamiVice]

No such thing as clutch, RBI are meaningless, Moustakas is amazing.. even with a rapidly declining BA.... I got it Moose.. Anything else you want to prove to me today?

 

[dougplayer]

you know I don't think much off moustakis at all.
BUT would take him over castellonos any day.
when ever castellonos does some thing good..you don't have to wait long till he screws up. game 2 of the kc series.
castellonos tripled...then got thrown out at home on a ground ball to short for a double play..castellonos is a dumb POS...idiot keeps making dumb mistake...tigers will try to trade him..if they cant he will live in Toledo next year

 

[dougplayer]

royal nation a little butt hurt after that series with the tigers???

royals in a free fall...tigers exposed that bull pen!
BAWWWWHAWWWWW

 

[dougplayer]

Cain went 1 for 16. 1 little broken bat bloop single.

iam surprised you didn't diss on our delay/rally squirrel...
well trained..of course nit by wally or jeff jones...they would screw him up to

 

[navamind]

No such thing as clutch, RBI are meaningless, Moustakas is amazing.. even with a rapidly declining BA.... I got it Moose.. Anything else you want to prove to me today?

It's not so much that there is no such thing as "clutch". It's that there's no proof that clutch performance is a repeatable skill, and "clutch" stats have little (if any) predictive value whatsoever.

 

[Wamu]

Just putting the other teams in the AL Central on notice. The Indians will dominate the division starting in 2020!

Spoiler

 

[Fountain City Blues]

It's not so much that there is no such thing as "clutch". It's that there's no proof that clutch performance is a repeatable skill.

I'd go even farther than that, Nava, but that's my cup of tea.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

So, Vice and I arguing was worth 6+ pages. Lovely...

 

[navamind]

No quarrelation? How many people finish their career with their BA and BA with RISP the same or within 10 points?

"quarrelation"

 

[da55bums]

So, Vice and I arguing was worth 6+ pages. Lovely...

especially involving Casty, even Doug knows his value, lol

 

[da55bums]

Ventura was never ranked in the top 20 prospects in baseball. His highest ranking was #35. Norris is #18.
Wow... Royals are winning a series vs the Angels... and you had to go to the NL to find another playoff contender that they are winning the series against... LOL

Tigers are not eliminated from anything yet bums. If at the end of Aug the Royals division lead is only 5 or 6 games... I would not be so confident.

Your knowledge of prospect rankings, I can see why you always think the Tigers prospects are incredible while everyone else ranks the Tigers minors dead last, even after this last draft class. The homer glasses are great.

I could have added Minny but they seem to be sliding out of it.

Ventura
pre 2013 baseball prospectus #62
pre 2014 baseball prospectus #12-baseball America #26-baseball reference.com

Norris's
pre 2012 baseball prospectus #54
pre 2013 not ranked
pre 2014 not ranked
pre 2015 baseball prospectus #34-baseball reference.com

career minor league numbers - 3.48 era whip 1.286 vs 4.08 whip 1.387, will let you guess who has the better numbers.

 

[navamind]

Slight correction... Ventura was ranked #26 by Baseball America. Baseball Prospectus ranked him #12. Baseball-Reference doesn't really do prospect rankings. They just list the rankings from various outlets.

Your point stands though. Also worth noting John Sickels had Ventura ranked as a B+/borderline A- prospect in his 2014 preseason rankings. And why "top 20"? Seems pretty arbitrary.

 

[da55bums]

Slight correction... Ventura was ranked #26 by Baseball America. Baseball Prospectus ranked him #12. Baseball-Reference doesn't really do prospect rankings. They just list the rankings from various outlets.

Your point stands though. Also worth noting John Sickels had Ventura ranked as a B+/borderline A- prospect in his 2014 preseason rankings. And why "top 20"? Seems pretty arbitrary.

I understand, baseball reference just uses reputable rankers and links them. Sickle's is fast becoming one of the more respected one's.

Its not arbitrary, Vice glanced at some info, if Norris was ranked 22, he would have said top 25 or top 30. Vice argues to win, he doesn't argue to be correct or truthfull.

 

[da55bums]

oh, and if you reread it, you will see I had them ranked with the ranker correctly. You just took the number to the wrong sorces.

 

[bksballer89]

The Tigers are fighting each other now lol

 

[broncosmitty]

"quarrelation"

My Grandparents had a lot of quarrelation for 65+ years.

 

[navamind]

My Grandparents had a lot of quarrelation for 65+ years.

Tigers tonight as well!