A.L. Central Smack 2015

[Fountain City Blues]

I call it not hitting at the same rate... you can call it random variance if it makes you feel better.

Skill is skill. Luck is luck. One is more valuable than the other.

 

[MiamiVice]

Skill is skill. Luck is luck. One is more valuable than the other.

Obviously Moustakas was getting lucky.. because every stat you want to look at shows he is not as skilled of a hitter as he appeared the first 2 months of the season.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Obviously Moustakas was getting lucky.. because every stat you want to look at shows he is not as skilled of a hitter as he appeared the first 2 months of the season.

WOW! He's not a Miguel Cabrera caliber of hitter- the horror!!!

 

[MiamiVice]

I love how you are a combined stat nerd and royals homer that defends Moustakas... its very amusing to me.... you are like a stat geek version of doug.

 

[MiamiVice]

WOW! He's not a Miguel Cabrera caliber of hitter- the horror!!!

Moustakas is closer to a Castellanos caliber of hitter. Compare their career offensive numbers. Castellanos is probably better.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I love how you are a combined stat nerd and royals homer that defends Moustakas... its very amusing to me.... you are like a stat geek version of doug.

You're just a pseudo-intellectual version of Doug, so you're one to talk.

 

[MiamiVice]

You don't see me unable to admit flaws in my favorite team.. you obviously can't if you are trying to defend Moustakas and attempting to compare him to Miggy Cabrera.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Moustakas is closer to a Castellanos caliber of hitter. Compare their career offensive numbers. Castellanos is probably better.

Maybe, seperated by less than 3 wRC+.

What seems more relevant is Nick Castellanos has been below replacement value his entire career. Moustakas has been above it his entire career. Just a slight difference...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You don't see me unable to admit flaws in my favorite team.. you obviously can't if you are trying to defend Moustakas and attempting to compare him to Miggy Cabrera.

The sarcastic comparison? Good grief. You're completely delusional and lacking in reading comprehension.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I am still waiting on refutations on my links.

 

[MiamiVice]

Still waiting for stat comparision of C

Maybe, seperated by less than 3 wRC+.

What seems more relevant is Nick Castellanos has been below replacement value his entire career. Moustakas has been above it his entire career. Just a slight difference...

Offensive stats CLEARLY show Castellanos is superior to Mostoukas over the course of their careers... if you compare age to age... its not even close offensively.

 

[MiamiVice]

I am still waiting on refutations on my links.

I don't even look at your links... They are nothing more than stat geek jargon. If you think RBI is not an important stat... I could care less to read what you posted.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Still waiting for stat comparision of C

Offensive stats CLEARLY show Castellanos is superior to Mostoukas over the course of their careers... if you compare age to age... its not even close offensively.

Within a MOE. A difference of 3 in career wRC+ is a ridiculous argument to make decisive statements regarding careers.

Moustakas has a career fWAR around 7.5, Casty is at NEGATIVE 1.8.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I don't even look at your links... They are nothing more than stat geek jargon. If you think RBI is not an important stat... I could care less to read what you posted.

Then this "debate" has long since entered a stage of ships sailing past each other. Still makes you look ridiculous for not even attempting to refute statistical data. Silence is deafening in this case...

Or if you prefer through 23...

3.6 to -1.8.

 

[MiamiVice]

The sarcastic comparison? Good grief. You're completely delusional and lacking in reading comprehension.

My reading comprehension is actually quite fine... You and I both know that... You know quite well my intelligence is well above average.

 

[MiamiVice]

Within a MOE. A difference of 3 in career wRC+ is a ridiculous argument to make decisive statements regarding careers.

Moustakas has a career fWAR around 7.5, Casty is at NEGATIVE 1.8.

Once again... I said compare offensive stats... which is what we were talking about.. talk about reading comprehension.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

My reading comprehension is actually quite fine... You and I both know that... You know quite well my intelligence is well above average.

If so, it's heavily diluted with arrogance so thick it presents itself as the skills of an idiot.

 

[MiamiVice]

Then this "debate" has long since entered a stage of ships sailing past each other. Still makes you look ridiculous for not even attempting to refute statistical data. Silence is deafening in this case...

Or if you prefer through 23...

3.6 to -1.8.

There is nothing to refute with advanced metrics stat geeks... you can always find a stat for your argument. You never were able to give me the amount of teams that led the league in WAR that actually won the WS that year... its maybe 1 every 10 years...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

My reading comprehension is actually quite fine... You and I both know that... You know quite well my intelligence is well above average.

Again, this is asked an answered with the M.O.E. Ignoring the composite value is begging the question- the answer of which ends the debate of Casty vs Moose for the time being.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

There is nothing to refute with advanced metrics stat geeks... you can always find a stat for your argument. You never were able to give me the amount of teams that led the league in WAR that actually won the WS that year... its maybe 1 every 10 years...

Because it is a Red Herring argument not worth fiddling with.