A.L. Central Smack 2015

[Fountain City Blues]

Another fun fact... Moustakas bats .246 with runners in scoring position... Castellanos bats .295.

Another fun fact, this is not a repeatable skill, so it is a worthless stat to begin with.

 

[MiamiVice]

So, basically you're going to make yourself look as stupid as possible defending arguably the worst 3B in baseball. And indisputably the worst the past two years. Their BSR is the exact same- so good for Casty for holding his jock on baserunning.

No.. I'm not defending Castellanos... I'm showing you proven facts that show Moustakas is even worse offensively than Castellanos. That makes me happy.

 

[MiamiVice]

Another fun fact, this is not a repeatable skill, so it is a worthless stat to begin with.

HAHAHHHA batting with runners in scoring position isn't a reputable skill? HHAHAHAHAHH how do you think people get RBI? Idiot.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

No.. I'm not defending Castellanos... I'm showing you proven facts that show Moustakas is even worse offensively than Castellanos. That makes me happy.

111 wRC+ for Moose

88 for Casty.

Hysterical and delusional argument.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

HAHAHHHA batting with runners in scoring position isn't a reputable skill? HHAHAHAHAHH how do you think people get RBI? Idiot.

RBI is also a worthless stat. So that means nothing to me.

 

[MiamiVice]

HAHAHHAHAAHAHAH RBI is a worthless stat! HAHHAHHAHAAHHA Wow... you are either a total stat nerd that looks at the game through some weird mathematical formula that minimizes when a player consistently drives in runs... or you are just a grumpy clown that had his favorite team revert back to 3 years ago for the last 2 weeks.

 

[MiamiVice]

You want to know a made up stat? WAR... There are only 2 things that matter in baseball.. pitchers not allowing runs... and hitter that score runs. THAT IS IT. You claim with fancy stats Ventura is good... yet he keeps giving up 5+ runs in less than 6 innings of work... You claim Moustakas is good.. yet when he had the chance to win the game today.. he pooped his pants with runners in scoring position, multiple times.... huh... I love stat geeks that fall in love with made up stats and don't see the actual outcome of at bats or games as important.

Omar Infante is a better hitter with runners in scoring position than Moustakas... at least he doesn't shat the bed when the possibly of getting a rbi or two comes up.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You want to know a made up stat? WAR... There are only 2 things that matter in baseball.. pitchers not allowing runs... and hitter that score runs. THAT IS IT. You claim with fancy stats Ventura is good... yet he keeps giving up 5+ runs in less than 6 innings of work... You claim Moustakas is good.. yet when he had the chance to win the game today.. he pooped his pants with runners in scoring position.... huh... I love stat geeks that fall in love with made up stats and don't see the actual outcome of at bats or games as important.

I love guys who completely ignore repeatable skills as demonstrated by research. It's how teams end up with real scrubs like Shane Greene and Alfredo Simon. Let's worship at the idol of ERA en sech despite 15 plus years of research though.

WAR does a much better job estimating a player's value than some RBI stat heavily linked to where you hit in the order. Likewise, FIP, SIERA, xFIP generally are much better predicting the future than ERA.

 

[MiamiVice]

I love guys who completely ignore repeatable skills as demonstrated by research. It's how teams end up with real scrubs like Shane Greene and Alfredo Simon. Let's worship at the idol of ERA en sech despite 15 plus years of research though.

WAR does a much better job estimating a player's value than some RBI stat heavily linked to where you hit in the order. Likewise, FIP, SIERA, xFIP generally are much better predicting the future than ERA.

You lost all credibility when you said BA with RISP was not a reputable stat.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You lost all credibility when you said BA with RISP was not a reputable stat.

To the contrary, you did when you claimed they had any significant value.

 

[MiamiVice]

I love guys who completely ignore repeatable skills as demonstrated by research. It's how teams end up with real scrubs like Shane Greene and Alfredo Simon. Let's worship at the idol of ERA en sech despite 15 plus years of research though.

WAR does a much better job estimating a player's value than some RBI stat heavily linked to where you hit in the order. Likewise, FIP, SIERA, xFIP generally are much better predicting the future than ERA.

WAR is make believe bro. If it was so great at showing the best players.. why is Mike Trout not wearing WS rings right now? Why are the Royals 12th in team WAR right now if WAR is so telling of a stat? Is it because they are not as good as their record shows?

 

[MiamiVice]

Team Bat Pit WAR
Dodgers 9.5 8.0 17.5
Yankees 8.4 6.5 14.9
Nationals 8.0 6.8 14.7
Cardinals 7.9 6.1 14.0
Blue Jays 9.2 4.7 13.9
Pirates 8.0 5.4 13.4
Mets 6.9 6.5 13.4
Giants 8.7 4.5 13.2
Cubs 7.3 5.7 13.0
Astros 7.2 5.5 12.7
Orioles 8.0 4.3 12.4
Royals 7.8 4.5 12.3

 

[MiamiVice]

HUH... now what...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

HUH... now what...

Position players are at 17.9, 4th in MLB while without Gordon for much of it, and starting Infante and Rios...

You can't even count correctly it appears.

 

[MiamiVice]

Royals were 9th in team WAR last year.... Yet they made the WS.... Who was #!? The Angels.. WAR is useless.

 

[MiamiVice]

You can attempt to find any made up stat you want... show me who was #1 last year in WAR.. .and show me who won the WS... its not the same team.

 

[MiamiVice]

WAR is a made up stat by stat clowns like yourself to feel better about your favorite player when he consistently poops his pants with runners in scoring position like Moustakas does.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Royals were 9th in team WAR last year.... Yet they made the WS.... Who was #!? The Angels.. WAR is useless.

The postseason is a SSS. Yes, we know.

 

[MiamiVice]

By this standard... the Tigers are the 6th best team in baseball.... The Giants #1... and The Cards #8... and you think it reflects true reality... go back on seasons past and show me how many times the team with the highest WAR won the WS.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

WAR is a made up stat by stat clowns like yourself to feel better about your favorite player when he consistently poops his pants with runners in scoring position like Moustakas does.

Couldn't I just say the same thing about RBI to prop up terrible players like Infante (last year) and Casty?