MLB Daily Thread: 9/18/2017: Price the long reliever, Astros clinch, Bellinger sets record

[SlinkyRedfoot]

winning a world series

They both have 2.

 

[black francis]

They both have 2.

only one of them has their two titles since 1948

 

[StanMarsh51]

Kluber's got a 197 ERA+, 0.85 WHIP, 7.41 K/BB


Just for reference on how great that is, Kershaw in his MVP season had a 197 ERA+, 0.86 WHIP, 7.71 K/BB

 

[redseat]

Ummm there is no one I've come across in real life, on TV, or the Internet, that thought the Pats were losing yesterday


Gronk really needs to stick to Beer Pong, what an embarrassment he's become

well, NO one thought they'd lose to the Chiefs either

 

[redseat]

you're not from here

lots of folks said 0-2 was possible, including myself.

They do need to get healthy QUICKLY however.

Amendola
Hogan
Dorsett
Gronk
Brkhead
Obviously Edelman
Hightower
Slater

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

only one of them has their two titles since 1948

True that.

Fucking crazy. The Royals make the playoffs only twice in the last 32 years, but they nab a championship. Indians have ten playoff berths in that period, with no championship.

Begs an interesting question. Would you rather root for a team who makes the playoffs 30% of the time or so, but never wins a championship, or a team that sucks balls for thirty, never sniffing the playoffs, then wins a championship?

It's honestly a hard question for me to answer, but I think I'd take the team that isn't a perennial shit show.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Kluber's got a 197 ERA+, 0.85 WHIP, 7.41 K/BB


Just for reference on how great that is, Kershaw in his MVP season had a 197 ERA+, 0.86 WHIP, 7.71 K/BB

Can you imagine dougplayer's meltdown if Kluber were to win CY and MVP?

 

[black francis]

True that.

Fucking crazy. The Royals make the playoffs only twice in the last 32 years, but they nab a championship. Indians have ten playoff berths in that period, with no championship.

Begs an interesting question. Would you rather root for a team who makes the playoffs 30% of the time or so, but never wins a championship, or a team that sucks balls for thirty, never sniffing the playoffs, then wins a championship.

It's honestly a hard question for me to answer, but I think I'd take the team that isn't a perennial shit show.

I'll take 20 years of shit then a ring as opposed to being competitive every year and losing when it counts

I wouldnt say they sucked balls for 30 years though. They had some winning seasons mixed in, but I kow what youre saying

 

[StanMarsh51]

Can you imagine dougplayer's meltdown if Kluber were to win CY and MVP?

 

[black francis]

Can you imagine dougplayer's meltdown if Kluber were to win CY and MVP?

Kluber locked up CYA yesterday

If not for Altuve, Kluber might win both

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

well, NO one thought they'd lose to the Chiefs either

Definitely true, but once they did, I dont know anyone that gave the Saints a chance yesterday

They will crush Houston next week also

There are teams out there the Pats will beat with half a roster

 

[redseat]

Definitely true, but once they did, I dont know anyone that gave the Saints a chance yesterday

They will crush Houston next week also

There are teams out there the Pats will beat with half a roster

I was nervous I will certainly say that. I mean they didn't look good against the Chiefs, didn't have the greatest health comining into the game even though the Saints suck royally.

It got much harder to beat the Texans with Dorsett, Hogan, Gronk getting hurt yesterday.. If they can't go and neither can Dola they are in a world of trouble.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I'll take 20 years of shit then a ring as opposed to being competitive every year and losing when it counts

That might be an easier position to take two years removed from a championship. Your opinion might have varied in 2006 after the fourth 100+ loss season in five years.

I wouldnt say they sucked balls for 30 years though. They had some winning seasons mixed in, but I kow what youre saying

28 years. 8 winning seasons. Only one 90+ win season. Thirteen 90+ loss seasons. No playoff berths.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Kluber locked up CYA yesterday

If not for Altuve, Kluber might win both

I agree that Kluber is the clear frontrunner now for CY. I don't think he's got a shot at the MVP, I just brought it up because Stan mentioned Kershaw's MVP season and because dougplayer loves to point to Verlander's MVP when comparing him against Kluber.

For the record, I don't think Kluber's career at this point is better than Verlander's (and may never be), but given a choice of the two right now, I don't think there's much to discuss.

 

[redseat]

$30+ million dollar reliever.... That's what Price has become... Pitiful

 

[black francis]

That might be an easier position to take two years removed from a championship. Your opinion might have varied in 2006 after the fourth 100+ loss season in five years.

yep, im sure it would have

28 years. 8 winning seasons. Only one 90+ win season. Thirteen 90+ loss seasons. No playoff berths.

i wonder how successful other teams would be if they went 7 years without an owner. the original owner left the team to a trust, which was good in theory, but totally fucked them

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

i wonder how successful other teams would be if they went 7 years without an owner. the original owner left the team to a trust, which was good in theory, but totally fucked them

I could see where that would mess things up considerably. I was not aware of that.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

The Yankees are coming

 

[black francis]

I could see where that would mess things up considerably. I was not aware of that.

Owner died in 93, left the team to a trust, headed by David Glass

He did that so a local owner could step up. Nobody did, so Glass bought them for $93M in 2000.

then the wheels fell off and he completely fucked things up. After the 10th round, he Drafted mostly college seniors who had no leverage and offered them $1000 to sign.

Thank God he hired Dayton Moore 6 years later and promised to open the checkbook

 

[cerealboi]

Owner died in 93, left the team to a trust, headed by David Glass

He did that so a local owner could step up. Nobody did, so Glass bought them for $93M in 2000.

then the wheels fell off and he completely fucked things up. After the 10th round, he Drafted mostly college seniors who had no leverage and offered them $1000 to sign.

Thank God he hired Dayton Moore 6 years later and promised to open the checkbook

Well, how about playing in the same division as the consummate ruiners of baseball.