(5) Philadelphia Flyers vs (4) Pittsburgh Penguins Round 1: There will be blood

[dash]

Oooh, oooh! Fine him 2500 rep points!

That's a pretty good Horshack impersonation

 

[MISKO]

Discipline hearings set for Pens' Neal, Asham - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

this should make all you haters happy .. these 2 deserve what they get

 

[Maverick426h]

What a shit show. Adams must have went to the Chris Kunitz University of Cosmotology, I didn't know he had that in him. Also being the third man in on what wasn't really even a fight was bullshit. That seems very out of character for him, but also very bush league.

Neal looked like he left his feet and targeted two heads in just under 45 seconds, I don't care if both Giroux and Couterier feel BETTER after the attempts, he should be suspended. He obviously lost control of himself, and again while he's a hard nosed guy who plays a tough brand of hockey, he hasn't in the past shown himself to be a cheap player. That said, send a damn message. Two attempts at headhunting in one shift? Fuck you, sit down at least a game.

Asham, ANOTHER guy who plays on the edge isn't really a cheap player, but damn... you can't cross check a guy in the throat, and then when he falls to the ice you really can't sock him in the head.

Three guys, should ALL be fined or suspended for their actions. I love all this rough stuff, but come on. Fight like men or sit in the press box.

Also, I know Mario doesn't have some sort of magic video game controller that makes his players do what he wants, but if the league doesn't do anything than he should. Seriously. I was one of the few non Pittsburgh fans that stood up for him and applauded him having the balls to stand up to the league and make a statement after the debacle against Long Island, but now he needs to put his money where his mouth is. His team lost control, his team acted like a bunch of IHL animals, and he needs to set an example that this behavior is not OK no matter which team is the perpetrator. He and many of us are obviously not happy with many of the supplemental discipline decisions that have been handed down this season or under Campbell, so prove you have some balls and make a statement to the rest of the league, brass included. Can you imagine the ripples if Mario released this statement?:

"Due to Brendan Shanahan's inability to act responsibly and levy the proper suspensions against James Neal, Craig Adams, and Arron Asham for their dispicable actions during game three, we are suspending all three players for a game each. Hopefully in the future the league will put player safety ahead of politics when it comes to disciplining dangerous acts on the ice, but until then our organization will not tolerate such behavior. Blah blah blah, see I wasn't bluffing or shitting you with my other whiny statement last year, suck my balls Gary, someone get me some poutine".

I'm not saying this is the worst thing I've ever seen in a hockey game, far from it, but if the league wants to crack down on head shots, this is a place to start. If the league doesn't want game four to turn into a bar fight, they need to act. And if Mario wants his opinion to be taken seriously on matters of player safety, HE needs to act if the league doesn't.

Also Hartnell is a mongoloid.

This is quite possibly the most informing and truthful post of the entire thread. Everyone should read it to get a truly objective opinion on what went down in this game.

 

[awaz]

Discipline hearings set for Pens' Neal, Asham - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

this should make all you haters happy .. these 2 deserve what they get

i feel the result of those hearings, especially the double-hearing for neal, will result in a satisfied awaz.

carry on with game 4 please. i love the rough and tumble games, and aside from a couple cheap shots, yesterday was awesome (guess i should thank crosby, that first go-around of physicality that got letang and timo ejected, that was fun)

 

[MISKO]

i feel the result of those hearings, especially the double-hearing for neal, will result in a satisfied awaz.

carry on with game 4 please. i love the rough and tumble games, and aside from a couple cheap shots, yesterday was awesome (guess i should thank crosby, that first go-around of physicality that got letang and timo ejected, that was fun)

im not giving up on my favorite team because of a couple idiots ...

 

[awaz]

im not giving up on my favorite team because of a couple idiots ...

definitely wouldn't expect you to.. and honestly, the way the games have gone who the hell knows what's gunna happen

 

[4thstreet]

I thought it was childish, but the least of the offenses last night. I just didn't see it as very captain-like.

We are set up for the Sox-Yanks of 04, BTW. The Pens are poised to become a team of destiny. They have the talent!

I agree

I believe if the ref would have given him 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike,perhaps there wouldn't have been further escalations.

Yea,it would have been a dumb penalty at the time,but they have got to do something to try and maintain some damn order.

 

[chy1127]

Adams facing an automatic game for 3rd man in. Pens are going to need some players after tuesday.

 

[dare2be]

We'll see how they handle adversity. Down 3-0, down a few players, and just down on themselves. Can't get much more adverse than that.

 

[Maverick426h]

Adams facing an automatic game for 3rd man in. Pens are going to need some players after tuesday.

With all do respect, the Pens deserve to have to play for their lives in a potential elimination game in Philly while three regular players short after that fiasco yesterday. Try beating the Flyers without Neal, who was the only reason the Pens were even in that game past halfway through the 1st.

 

[element1286]

Well the shenanigans at the end of the game were unfortunate. I don't have a problem with an Asham suspension, but he is an easy target, so he'll get multiple games no question. I don't think Neals actions were as bad as most are suggesting, Schenn had just taken a run at Martin not too long before. No hearing for him. If Neal gets more than a game, its too much.

As for Adams-Hartnell, IMO, Hartnell deserves every beating he gets considering he is the definition on "third man in" to every scrum in front of the net, but always refuses to drop the gloves, no sympathy for any "cheapshot" he recives.

 

[rares]

Malkin's playoff highlights:

 

[chy1127]

Well the shenanigans at the end of the game were unfortunate. I don't have a problem with an Asham suspension, but he is an easy target, so he'll get multiple games no question. I don't think Neals actions were as bad as most are suggesting, Schenn had just taken a run at Martin not too long before. No hearing for him. If Neal gets more than a game, its too much.

As for Adams-Hartnell, IMO, Hartnell deserves every beating he gets considering he is the definition on "third man in" to every scrum in front of the net, but always refuses to drop the gloves, no sympathy for any "cheapshot" he recives.

Hartnell refuses to drop the gloves? Have you not heard of the Hartnell hat trick? Fall down, score a goal and have a fight.

 

[awaz]

Well the shenanigans at the end of the game were unfortunate. I don't have a problem with an Asham suspension, but he is an easy target, so he'll get multiple games no question. I don't think Neals actions were as bad as most are suggesting, Schenn had just taken a run at Martin not too long before. No hearing for him. If Neal gets more than a game, its too much.

As for Adams-Hartnell, IMO, Hartnell deserves every beating he gets considering he is the definition on "third man in" to every scrum in front of the net, but always refuses to drop the gloves, no sympathy for any "cheapshot" he recives.

agreed w/ your assesment of asham and adams

neal though.. i'm ok with your assesment if it were 1 incident.. the fact that its two incidents so closely together where there was pretty clear intent to injure means he has to be punished

we could go back and forth arguing over who is more of a pansy and a 3rd man in type player (i'd pick crosby as my target) for 1000 posts if we wanted, so i'm not gunna bother haha

 

[chy1127]

Malkin's playoff highlights:

Rep for making soda come out of my nose. Man that stings!

 

[chy1127]

I really wish game 4 was tomorrow.

 

[element1286]

Hartnell refuses to drop the gloves? Have you not heard of the Hartnell hat trick? Fall down, score a goal and have a fight.

Nope.

 

[Maverick426h]

Well the shenanigans at the end of the game were unfortunate. I don't have a problem with an Asham suspension, but he is an easy target, so he'll get multiple games no question. I don't think Neals actions were as bad as most are suggesting, Schenn had just taken a run at Martin not too long before. No hearing for him. If Neal gets more than a game, its too much.

As for Adams-Hartnell, IMO, Hartnell deserves every beating he gets considering he is the definition on "third man in" to every scrum in front of the net, but always refuses to drop the gloves, no sympathy for any "cheapshot" he recives.

Yeah, there's a difference. Schenn's run at Martin was arguably a clean hit all the way. He did get two for charging, but what Asham did in response was outrageous and completely uncalled for. He "lost his cool" in every sense of the phrase.

And that's bullshit too. There's a huge difference between helping pull someone away from your teammate during an average scrum around a net and jumping someone, punching them in the back of the head several times from behind while they are essentially already engaged in a fight with another player, then grabbing and pulling their hair like a pussy bitch.

Hartnell is a gritty pest, but he makes room for guys like Giroux and Jagr too and does his job very well ultimately. He managed to net 37 goals this season too as his shot and overall hockey skill are very underrated. Yes, he also falls down a shit-ton and donates money to charity when he does.

 

[4thstreet]

We'll see how they handle adversity. Down 3-0, down a few players, and just down on themselves. Can't get much more adverse than that.

I know of "diversity"-an old,old wooden ship































jk

 

[chy1127]

Nope.

Raised a shit load of money for charity with his Hartnell down bit. He fights enough. Just a problem when a man (Adams) act like a little girl and jumps him from behind and pulls his hair. I always thought Adams was a clean and tough player. Have watched him give a number of good clean really hard hits over the years. But hair pulling.................