POLL #4: B12 or PAC

[BoiseMike19]

Even with a Baylor win over OU???

Yes, I did consider that knowing that Baylor does play OU next week. I honestly don't think much separates Baylor, Utah, Oklahoma and Oregon....don't think the judges will either. I just personally think of the three in consideration Oklahoma's OOC was better and the rest of both Conferences is tougher in the Big 12. Just my opinion.

 

[OregonDucks]

What click bait BS poll.

Unfortunately for the Utah Oregon is winning the conference. It’s good for the overall conference moving forward

 

[Red_Alert]

Which CFP loss would be more entertaining:

OU or Utah

Utah because scenario village en sech.
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[Rolltide94]

I'd be interested to know the 20 matchups and the time span. Anyway, I get it. A Pac 12 teams needs to win a game against a good SEC team in order for the Pac 12 to start repairing their reputation. And then they need to win some more.

Oregon really screwed the Pac 12 by blowing the game against Auburn. A win there would've changed how everyone views Oregon's and Utah's CFP credentials this season. There is no great USC or Washington team of the past that everyone respects.

AS I've state previously here, it is the last 3 years. The only win being Stanford over Notre Dame in 2017. It includes bowl games and regular season games against end of year ranked opponents in 2017 and 2018 and currently ranked teams for this year.

 

[Tin Man]

Utah is better looking, wholesome. Oklahoma sleeps around. With the current CFP committee, odds favor wanting to get lucky.

 

[rmilia1]

Even with a Baylor win over OU???

Even with a win over OU Baylor will have a max of 2 ranked wins ( and thats if KSU sneaks back in ) and theyll only have 5 wins over .500+ teams. A 1 loss OU or Utah would have better resumes . Baylor would be less than 50/50 to get in even with a win imo. They would certainly need Oregon to beat Utah and LSU to beat UGA and it wouldnt hurt to have OSU beat Wisky just to make sure

 

[Olyduck]

Your 5-5 versus P5 teams this year and 4-4 versus the Mountain West...guess you guys need to import some more G5 teams out West. Or are you just going to play 20 FCS teams instead of the 10 you played this year.

SEC didnt exactly fair well vs MWC either.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Utah is better looking, wholesome. Oklahoma sleeps around. With the current CFP committee, odds favor wanting to get lucky.

But Oklahoma is a 2 pump chump in the playoffs. Give the new kid with a big schlong a shot.

 

[cwalke3408]

Here...these are based on the Massey's incomplete rankings to date

Utah
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Wins over:
#51 @BYU (7-5) 30-12 MOV=18
#112 NIU (5-7) 35-17 MOV=18
#NR Idaho St (3-9) 31-0 MOV=31
#46 Wash St (6-6) 38-13 MOV=25
#65 @Ore St (5-7) 52-7 MOV=45
#42 Ari St (7-5) 21-3 MOV=18
#50 Cal (7-5) 35-0 MOV=35
#32 @Wash (7-5) 33-28 MOV=5
#75 UCLA (4-8) 49-3 MOV=46
#90 @Ariz (4-8) 35-7 MOV=28
#70 Colo (5-7) 45-15 MOV=30
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avg rank:655/11=59.545 | avg mov:299/11=27.18

Losses:
#22 @USC (8-4) 30-23


OU
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Wins over:
#85 Hous (4-8) 49-31 MOV=18
#NR SDak (5-7) 70-14 MOV=56
#75 @UCLA (4-8) 48-14 MOV=34
#78 TxTech (4-8) 55-16 MOV=39
#100 @Kansas (3-9) 45-20 MOV=25
#27 *Texas (7-5) 34-27 MOV=7 *Neutral Site
#69 West Va (5-7) 52-14 MOV=38
#30 Iowa St (7-5) 42-41 MOV=1
#15 @Baylor (11-1) 34-31 MOV=3
#49 TCU (5-7) 28-24 MOV=4
#25 OSU (8-4) 34-16 MOV=18
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avg rank:587/11=53.363 | avg mov:243/11=22.09

Losses:
#34 @KSU (8-4) 48-41

Useful

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[Tin Man]

But Oklahoma is a 2 pump chump in the playoffs. Give the new kid with a big schlong a shot.

I like the idea of Utah, even if Bama isn't there to lose to them. My prior comment was more about the perceptions & proclivities of the selectors.

 

[navamind]

I'd go with OU. I think both teams are playoff caliber but I'd go with OU because of SoS (22nd in Sagarin SOS and 4-1 vs. top 30, Utah is 54th and only 1-1 vs. top 30).

 

[tnapucco]

Which CFP loss would be more entertaining:

OU or Utah

Good point.

Wouldn't all the haters love to see OU get thumped again?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Good point.

Wouldn't all the haters love to see OU get thumped again?

That will happen in the Sugar Bowl as well

 

[tnapucco]

That will happen in the Sugar Bowl as well

If we end up in the Sugar Bowl, I'd like to make a small wager with you.

 

[Shanemansj13]

If Georgia wins they are in.
If Baylor or Oklahoma wins and Utah and Georgia lose, they are in.

Pretty self-explantary for the most part, the only real debate is Oklahoma and Utah.

If Oklahoma crushes a Baylor team and Utah wins by a FG...this won't be an easy decision.

Eye Test - Utah

Offense - Oklahoma
Defense - Utah
SOS - Oklahoma

Resume
Oklahoma - wins: Baylor #8 twice, losses: Kansas St unranked
Utah - wins: Oregon #13, losses: USC #24

Only way Oklahoma gets in imo (other than Utah and Georgia losing) is if they dominate Baylor and Utah wins by a FG or something and they look sloppy. IDK I don't think it is that clear cut I just think the committee values a more balanced team