(3) Phoenix Coyotes vs (8) L.A. Kings Western Conf. Finals series thread

[jstewismybastardson]

Hanzal deserves a couple of games. He’ll probably get one. Smith, for his hatcheting of Dustin Brown, should get a game, but I actually hope he doesn’t. Jason Labarbera is not good, but I don’t like the storyline of him jumping in to play game 3. Think Cory Schneider in round one, but with a little LA history thrown in. Labarbera might just pull a rabbit out of his hat under those circumstances.

But it was Smith’s chop of Brown that made me hate. That could have caused real damage. And Brown wasn’t even being Brown. He was just standing there. Smith is just pissed because Quick is out-Smithing him.

yah ... i dont think so ... maybe more like he's pissed there are so many Kings getting in his grill and skating through his crease with the refs calling nothing

but more power to the Kings, they cant be beat on the pk so their general philosophy has to be "if you get a penalty running at Smith, who cares" ... they are certainly in Smiths head

 

[puckhead]

You listed 5 things, but incredibly all 5 are relevant. I seriously think they all came into play.

I was told there would be no math

 

[jstewismybastardson]

heres more "red headed smokeshow"

 

[Ho_Brah]

Part of my problem with Shane Doan has nothing to do with Shane Doan. It has to do with the NBC punditry’s predetermined narrative, which has cast Doan as the “old warrior” hero of this year’s playoffs. The high-character veteran who has unthinkably been denied the ultimate prize which he so obviously richly deserves.

So it’s not Shane Doan’s fault he’s been miscast, or that the narrative is falling apart. And I wouldn’t say he’s (exactly) a dirty player. But he does appear to be. Is that entirely a bad thing? Not at all. Gordie Howe was probably a dick, too. But his take-down of Mike Richards was a dick move. And we know he’s not adverse to sticking his elbow out to catch a noggin if the mood strikes him.

I don’t think Doan’s hit on Lewis was motivated by dickheadedness. But it was boarding. Even if Lewis doesn’t turn his back on Doan, Lewis is still in a vulnerable position relative to the boards, and that’s the standard for boarding. The rule does indicate that a player in Lewis’s position has an obligation not to put himself in a vulnerable position, and Lewis did turn his back. But boarding doesn’t have to be a hit from behind. It’s a hit where the player is vulnerable because he’s a couple of feet away from the boards and the checker uses the boards as a weapon. And that’s what Doan did.

The refs had a choice to make on that play. It’s either a penalty or it isn’t. Lewis’s head is smashed into the boards. He’s bleeding. The absolute least the refs could call in that case is a double-minor for charging [roughing?] and that would be the refs bending over backwards not to call a major on an important player. But once they decide it meets the standard for a major (the standard is “based on the degree of violence of the check”) and a head injury is involved, it’s a mandatory game misconduct.

Just to be clear: if an opponent has the puck a couple of feet from the boards — even if he’s facing you, even if he sees you coming — you’re not allowed to charge at him and drive him into the boards. You’re not allowed to NOT charge at him an still drive him into the boards.

I don’t think he should be suspended for it. It was reckless, not intentional.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I wonder what Kings assistant GM Ron Hextall thought of the Smith chop (and whether or not it brought back some Stanley Cup memories of some time ago).

I'd like to know Billy Smith's opinion on the play too.


/No real connection, just a good excuse to post an old Billy Smith clip.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

The refs had a choice to make on that play. It’s either a penalty or it isn’t. Lewis’s head is smashed into the boards. He’s bleeding. The absolute least the refs could call in that case is a double-minor for charging [roughing?] and that would be the refs bending over backwards not to call a major on an important player. But once they decide it meets the standard for a major (the standard is “based on the degree of violence of the check”) and a head injury is involved, it’s a mandatory game misconduct.

Not positive, but I think that they had no choice but to go major or nothing at all because of the cut. I don't think a double-minor or anything else would be allowed under the rules, unless they went no penalty at all and said it was because Lewis turned.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

 

[esls79]

I'd like to know Billy Smith's opinion on the play too.


/No real connection, just a good excuse to post an old Billy Smith clip.

When's the last time you saw a goalie get a 5 minute major for slashing?

 

[oaknightshockey1]

^^thats funny

 

[davnlaguna]

I'd like to know Billy Smith's opinion on the play too.


/No real connection, just a good excuse to post an old Billy Smith clip.

Didnt the Kings draft him?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Didnt the Kings draft him?

Good point, forgot about that.

Coulda pointed out that it was Gretz that he slashed too, which is an obvious LA connection.

But again, really just wanted to post the clip

 

[puckhead]

Good point, forgot about that.

Coulda pointed out that it was Gretz that he slashed too, which is an obvious LA connection.

But again, really just wanted to post the clip

also, like Brown... Gretzky dove like a bitch

 

[sherbert1421]

no surprise coyotes are getting destroyed. they were outplayed by both chicago and nashville. difference this time though is mike smith isn't standing on his head

 

[BlueandWhiteForever]

heres more "red headed smokeshow"

Am I the only one who finds the wording on the boards directly under her a tad hilarious?

 

[dash]

Hanzal suspended one game...

Coyotes' Hanzal handed one game suspension for hit on Brown

Edit: Video goodness http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=177972

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Jeez, Yotes are coming apart at the seems. Is that Mike Smith or Billy Smith? Hanzal... he's so hot right now. At least his ass is after Shanny lit it up. Doan needs to relax too. If Doan doesn't like getting Doaned in the playoffs every year, he should sign with another team. I think everyone's known for a long time that Phoenix isn't the place to be if you want a Cup.

 

[Ho_Brah]

Kings - Coyotes Game 2 Scoring Chances | NHLNumbers.com

 

[BlueandWhiteForever]

Going to go with a 2-1 Coyotes win tonight. Kings will ruin the shutout with less than 2 minutes left. Shane Doan will have a huge impact tonight, following the 'players who duck suspension having big games' trend.

 

[dash]

Going to go with a 2-1 Coyotes win tonight. Kings will ruin the shutout with less than 2 minutes left. Shane Doan will have a huge impact tonight, following the 'players who duck suspension having big games' trend.

So, based on last game, I'm thinking the Kings will prevail 3-1 tonight then?

 

[BlueandWhiteForever]

500!