2025 season thread

[JMR]

Well this off-season just got a touch more interesting. Fingers crossed that multiple teams come calling.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Well this off-season just got a touch more interesting. Fingers crossed that multiple teams come calling.

There should be some teams.

Carolina now with Young picking it up need a #1.
Denver could prob. make him work well with Nix/Payton.
Pittsburgh has been trying to find a WR forever.
KC could be interested.
New England could be something...

I still think we'll be lucky to get a 2nd rounder. DK just kind of seemed to mail it in after he came back from a RECURRING knee injury. Not even 1K yards, lowest TDs in his career... with a team that passed I believe more than anyone else in the league, lol.

The good thing is outside of Hunter this year, there's not a lot of great receivers early on. The WR class is fairly deep for some #2/#3 talent in the later rounds, but not quite like last years draft where WRs were flying off the board left and right early on. And Hunter may be used primarily as a DB.. expecting him to play 100+ snaps every game is not realistic.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Taking JSN with a first round pick is looking pretty smart right about now. Just a passing thought with this news breaking.

 

[MrS]

Trade him for a player or future draft picks so we can load up for a QB in 2026

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Trade him for a player or future draft picks so we can load up for a QB in 2026

Ideally.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Ian Rapoport (@rapsheet1.bsky.social)

Breaking news on GMFB: The Chiefs are trading All-Pro G Joe Thuney to the Bears in exchange for a 2026 fourth rounder.

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I mean that makes tremendous sense for the Bears... they need immediate help to keep Williams upright. We do as well, but I think we're actually not as bad as it seems with the OL. I think a lot of our terrible OL last year was also a product of Grubb's dumbass system. And hopefully Kubiak's crew can actually coach up OL. We haven't IGNORED it. We just draft guys and then like Haynes (early 3rd) we fuckin' bench em or make them flat out inactive? WTF?

• I think Haynes should 100% be starting,
• Bradford maybe shift to LG where he can get help from Cross (who was snubbed of a PBOWL at a minimum)...
• Oluwatimi did OKAY - he wasn't horrible. In a lot of games he wasn't mauling players but he was consistently solid. PFF had him decently graded and when I watched the games he wasn't spectacular, but he wasn't horrible either...
• Lucas we do need to find a backup/replacement for but that's right tackle, which is actually not bad this draft.

I know Thuney is an all pro left guard (and sure he can switch to LT, but he is not as good there - that should not be the intention). He's 32 but guards can play a bit later. But he's going to command a massive contract. I'd rather see what we can do with a) utilizing tight ends more, b) getting a lead FB blocker (something Kubiak will absolutely want to do), and then not running that dumbass scheme no huddle crap Grubb was doing. God that shit was maddening and NOT what you should be doing in the NFL. I think the OL suffered GREATLY from that.

 

[MrS]

Im hearing a 3rd for DK, ID rather keep him if that's the best they can do.
Maybe wait until the draft is over and see which teams Missed out and are still desperate

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Im hearing a 3rd for DK, ID rather keep him if that's the best they can do.
Maybe wait until the draft is over and see which teams Missed out and are still desperate

Think I said somewhere on this forum I'd settle for a 3rd... a 1st or 2nd would be an immediate pull trigger. If Carolina/New England (early 3rd) are willing to surrender their 3rd rounder, that's fine as well.. because while KC/GreenBay could be likely candidates, a 2nd would be a LATE 2nd.

Deebo has a bigger injury history (or just playing not at 100%) but now DK is kind of getting them... I know DK is 2 years younger, but he's again coming off his worst year, looked completely dejected/frustrated and mailing it in the 2nd half... and is going to want a massive paycheck.

 

[flyerhawk]

Trading DK makes our receiving corps EXTREMELY thin and almost REQUIRES that we use either our 1st or 2nd on a receiver PLUS go for a 3rd receiver in FA.

Trading before June 1st makes the team VERY upside down cap wise with 21 million in dead money and only 10 million in savings.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Trading DK makes our receiving corps EXTREMELY thin and almost REQUIRES that we use either our 1st or 2nd on a receiver PLUS go for a 3rd receiver in FA.

Trading before June 1st makes the team VERY upside down cap wise with 21 million in dead money and only 10 million in savings.

Or do like the Chargers did and go run heavy. Other than the rookie McConkey they had very little at the WR position. This draft has plenty of WR3 types but doubt you find a WR that would do what Metcalf does so don't reach on WR to replace Metcalf.

 

[MrS]

Trading DK makes our receiving corps EXTREMELY thin and almost REQUIRES that we use either our 1st or 2nd on a receiver PLUS go for a 3rd receiver in FA.

Trading before June 1st makes the team VERY upside down cap wise with 21 million in dead money and only 10 million in savings.

Id like to see them Drag it out a bit until a team finds their nuts in a vice with little leverage and we can get a future 1st out of them.

 

[flyerhawk]

Or do like the Chargers did and go run heavy. Other than the rookie McConkey they had very little at the WR position. This draft has plenty of WR3 types but doubt you find a WR that would do what Metcalf does so don't reach on WR to replace Metcalf.

Well I'm fine with whatever but run heavy requires you have a mauling OL which we don't have. Our run blocking was actually worse than our pass blocking last season.

 

[flyerhawk]

Id like to see them Drag it out a bit until a team finds their nuts in a vice with little leverage and we can get a future 1st out of them.

If we could get a 1st I would be thrilled. Don't see it happening though.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Or do like the Chargers did and go run heavy. Other than the rookie McConkey they had very little at the WR position. This draft has plenty of WR3 types but doubt you find a WR that would do what Metcalf does so don't reach on WR to replace Metcalf.

I am 100% for this approach and was last year as well. If we keep Fant (this was still a TE that nearly logged 1K yards in Denver, before coming to Seattle where... we just don't seem to know how to use TEs) and maybe can get Lockett back on a team friendly deal fine... JSN surpassed DK last year anyway.. he nearly had a 300 yard game that was removed because of crappy officiating. Seattle passed the ball more than almost anyone in the league (which is astonishing given our terrible TOP) and he still didn't reach 1K yards.

You got K9, Charbs, get a good blocking FB, ditch that stupid no huddle bullshit (which made everyone but Cross who is a top 10 talent, horrible IMO), use Fant/Barner, and know you have JSN.

Receivers are CHEAP at the moment. You don't need to blow another 1st or 2nd on them right now. There's a lot of mid round decent WR talent that Seattle can supplement.

I was all for trading DK last year at the deadline. Harold I'm in alignment with you.

@flyerhawk - flagging you since I get it... it does make us thin, but there's bigger needs on the team and still some very good talent on the roster in terms of TE/WR (JSN at least) and RB. We don't need to be blowing $30M+ on a receiver who gets butt hurt non-stop, fumbles, now has a recurring knee injury, and 100% mailed it in the 2nd half of the season after that knee injury to 100% get paid. DK requested a trade because he knows Seattle is not going to give him huge money - which they absolutely SHOULD NOT.

The trade scenario is interesting. Trading him pre June doesn't help at all.. possible they could just keep him or consider him a post June trade and grab ammo for the 2026 draft.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well I'm fine with whatever but run heavy requires you have a mauling OL which we don't have. Our run blocking was actually worse than our pass blocking last season.

Yeah , it was graded poorly but I think that had a lot more to do with bad scheme and bad coaching than the players out there, Later in the season, there was some glimpses of better run blocking, especially when Walker wasn't in there dancing around and Charbs was getting the bulk of the carries. And the kid Lamea was a much better run blocker then Bradford. But Grubb never stuck with it and never schemed anything creative in the run game. I also think Huff was in over his head as an Oline coach in the pros. I think Kubiak has a much better scheme and his lineage comes from some of the best with his dad and the Shanahans.

 

[flyerhawk]

Yeah , it was graded poorly but I think that had a lot more to do with bad scheme and bad coaching than the players out there, Later in the season, there was some glimpses of better run blocking, especially when Walker wasn't in there dancing around and Charbs was getting the bulk of the carries. And the kid Lamea was a much better run blocker then Bradford. But Grubb never stuck with it and never schemed anything creative in the run game. I also think Huff was in over his head as an Oline coach in the pros. I think Kubiak has a much better scheme and his lineage comes from some of the best with his dad and the Shanahans.

Well I hope you are right.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Yeah , it was graded poorly but I think that had a lot more to do with bad scheme and bad coaching than the players out there, Later in the season, there was some glimpses of better run blocking, especially when Walker wasn't in there dancing around and Charbs was getting the bulk of the carries. And the kid Lamea was a much better run blocker then Bradford. But Grubb never stuck with it and never schemed anything creative in the run game. I also think Huff was in over his head as an Oline coach in the pros. I think Kubiak has a much better scheme and his lineage comes from some of the best with his dad and the Shanahans.

I hope for the best, but in complete agreement.

The OL personnel was absolutely fuckin' ridiculous by Huff, and Grubb might be one of the most incompetent OCs in franchise history. Absolutely ridiculous what he was trying to do with that beyond STUPID non huddle system and the passing + shotgun formation, what the actual fuck? I've never seen anything like it and pray it will never happen again in my lifetime.

Our OL does need improvement, but there was some okay things there. Oluwatimi actually wasn't too bad. Haynes didn't fair well but he's technically more sound... it didn't help there was nobody at right tackle on a consistent basis.

We do need a backup or future replacement at RT because I don't think Lucas will last. If you want to keep Bradford please move him to LG. He's not a RG. I don't get why we kept Haynes inactive for some games.

 

[Anointed One]

Taking JSN with a first round pick is looking pretty smart right about now. Just a passing thought with this news breaking.

It's almost like the front office new what they were doing at the time..

 

[Anointed One]

Trading DK makes our receiving corps EXTREMELY thin and almost REQUIRES that we use either our 1st or 2nd on a receiver PLUS go for a 3rd receiver in FA.

Trading before June 1st makes the team VERY upside down cap wise with 21 million in dead money and only 10 million in savings.

Maybe we're addressing this with our new offense... Kubiak has always had great blocking receivers in his scheme.. Right now, none of our receivers are great blockers... I think what I saw a few weeks ago was DK over all was ranked #57 in the league in blocking, Tyler was 99th and JSN was 112... I could be off a few numbers off but I think these were in the ball park of their rankings... Overall, that's just not good... Boob was 69...

Someone who is intriguing to me is Lazard who just became available... He was ranked 19th overall for blocking at the receiver position.. Not saying he would be a focal point but definitely would be a great role/support player at the receiving position due to his run blocking skills...

 

[Screamin12th]

Wasn't GB's offer a 1st and a WR for DK?