2025 Rookie Discussion

[cwalke3408]

Tet MacMillan has bust written all over him.

Are you not high on the talent or him being on the Panthers?

 

[averagejoe]

FantasyPros has 'em ranked.
Some of the "best" are optimistic.
Some of the "worst" rankings are surprising.
No Harvey in the top 9 (average).

How'd you rank the top 9?

 

[Shanemansj13]

Are you not high on the talent or him being on the Panthers?

The question isn’t directed at me but….I think he has plenty of talent and mismatch written all over him but I don’t think he will have the work ethic to get to the level he should imo. He said something like he doesn’t watch film and he is late to meetings. Talent only gets you so far but when you get to that next level you 100% need that desire, work ethic and competitiveness. I’m not sure he has that. In this draft, he isn’t worth that top 5 pick imo

 

[Shanemansj13]

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FantasyPros has 'em ranked.
Some of the "best" are optimistic.
Some of the "worst" rankings are surprising.
No Harvey in the top 9 (average).

How'd you rank the top 9?

Jeanty
Hampton
Judkins
Hunter
Henderson
Johnson
Mcmillan
Egbuka
Warren

The only reason I have mcmillan over egbuka is OPPORTUNITY. Warren is at the end simply bc TE’s don’t have that same value but I think Warren is a stud. Long-term I would take Loveland over Warren

 

[TREFF]

Are you not high on the talent or him being on the Panthers?

Talent.. he just reminds me too much of the Drake Londons, 'big' Mike Williams's, and on and on.. for whatever reason that stench is in him, in my mind

 

[averagejoe]

Long-term I would take Loveland over Warren

IDK. Seems Ben Johnson's offense spreads the ball around so that no one player is consistent. Some weeks, it was St. Brown, other weeks it was Williams, then LaPorta. Even Raymond. That make me shy away from any Bears receivers including Loveland.

 

[TREFF]

My rookie draft is not until after pre-season,
How's the big board looking? (ADP of rookies)

In the drafts I've been in..
It's Jeanty and Hampton, always, #1 and #2.. then it's Henderson/Judkins/Hunter could be in any order.
Tet, Harvey, K. Johnson are the next bunch that come in various different orders.

And after that it's a mix of Cam Ward, Warren, Loveland, and the various RB's, and the occasional Burden appearance.

Most the rest of the RB's and 2nd tier WR's going on the second.

Really tough to guess past the top 5, and it'll really depend on team needs

 

[averagejoe]

Read a blurb that Sean Payton's coaching history doesnt necessarily support leaning on one RB. Looked at his coaching history and have to admit, the rushing rankings were a little underwhelming.

Of course he did have Drew Brees, and it did seem like the numbers leaned more toward the QB. If Nix is his next Drew Brees, i have some reservations about bumping Harvey up my board.

 

[TREFF]

Read a blurb that Sean Payton's coaching history doesnt necessarily support leaning on one RB. Looked at his coaching history and have to admit, the rushing rankings were a little underwhelming.

Of course he did have Drew Brees, and it did seem like the numbers leaned more toward the QB. If Nix is his next Drew Brees, i have some reservations about bumping Harvey up my board.

Yeah, he's a bit of a mixed bag-
Frenchy Thomas, Ivory, Reggie Bush..a few years where he literally had crap to choose from. Then he rode Mark Ingram hard for a couple years.. then Ingram AND Karmara, and then rode Kamara hard. Tried to ride Jav. Williams hard until he realized Williams isn't very good.

I take him to be similar to his buddy Belechik.. if he's got a horse, he'll ride him, if he doesn't, he'll use everyone. If he's got two horses, he'll find a way for his one ass to ride two horses.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

My rookie draft is not until after pre-season,
How's the big board looking? (ADP of rookies)

If you're rebuilding:
Personally, I see about 6-7 guys that you'll want to get a piece of, then a big group of about 10-12 that you should try to take as many shots on as possible

If you're contending:
Try your best to consolidate some assets to get a top 5/6 pick if you are in position to do so, but I wouldn't overpay for any outside of Jeanty/Hampton. I include Hunter in the top tier if you play IDP, think he'll be a cheat code, regardless which side he plays more on, but especially if he's primarily a WR like they are projecting

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Talent.. he just reminds me too much of the Drake Londons

WR5 overall in ppr and half ppr at age 22 Drake London, that's who the bust WR reminds you of?

 

[broncosmitty]

I’d be fine with Drake London production from Tet. London is #9 on Fantasy Pros dynasty rankings.

 

[TREFF]

WR5 overall in ppr and half ppr at age 22 Drake London, that's who the bust WR reminds you of?

I think i misremembered the name of whomever I was thinking of.

Name any random big tall wide receiver bust in the past 2 decades.. that's who I'm thinking of

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I think i misremembered the name of whomever I was thinking of.

Name any random big tall wide receiver bust in the past 2 decades.. that's who I'm thinking of

London easily could've been considered a bust if you forgot shit Arthur Smith was involved

 

[wilwhite]

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FantasyPros has 'em ranked.
Some of the "best" are optimistic.
Some of the "worst" rankings are surprising.
No Harvey in the top 9 (average).

How'd you rank the top 9?

Jeanty
.
Hampton (I think Najee isn't really that good)
.
Kaleb (Warren's a complementary back and always will be)
.
Golden - not on your list; underrated landing spot
Egbuka (above Golden if PPR)
.
Hunter (too many questions about how he'll be used)
Tetairoa (a tier higher if redraft)
Loveland
Warren
Judkins (Sampson hurts his value)
Henderson

 

[cwalke3408]

If you're rebuilding:
Personally, I see about 6-7 guys that you'll want to get a piece of, then a big group of about 10-12 that you should try to take as many shots on as possible

If you're contending:
Try your best to consolidate some assets to get a top 5/6 pick if you are in position to do so, but I wouldn't overpay for any outside of Jeanty/Hampton. I include Hunter in the top tier if you play IDP, think he'll be a cheat code, regardless which side he plays more on, but especially if he's primarily a WR like they are projecting

I'm sitting at #10 so I might have to get creative

 

[averagejoe]

Golden - not on your list; underrated landing spot

But the Packers drafted Savion Williams too. They seem to load up on WR and then not feature any of them regularly.

 

[TREFF]

I'm sitting at #10 so I might have to get creative

Probably looking at the TEs, Golden, Burden, Ward, or one of those secondary RB's

 

[averagejoe]

Why did Ollie take such a tumble? In February he was ranked as the RB9. In April, he was RB11. Post draft he was RB16.