2025 Draft discussion thread

[listopencil]

I don't have a draft crush on any particular player. I think we need to get a DT/TE/RB in the first three rounds. It seems like there are enough talented players at those positions that we could end up grabbing them in almost any order, but I'd be very, very wary of any RB in the first round.

 

[Mountain Bronco]

DT is deep and watching the Eagles DL dominate the chiefs it can't hurt to put more into the DL.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Omgosh!! I remember the day the NFL irreparably changed your life as if it was yesterdaaaaaaaaaaay!

It was a long recovery.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I don't have a draft crush on any particular player. I think we need to get a DT/TE/RB in the first three rounds. It seems like there are enough talented players at those positions that we could end up grabbing them in almost any order, but I'd be very, very wary of any RB in the first round.

I don't like this mindset. Not good to have 3 positions you want and say "Have to draft these three positions in the first three rounds", that is where drafts and franchises fail.

Gotta go value

FA is for needs
draft is for value.

Sure you have to combine them a bit too.

 

[SpringStein]

This was from The Athletic, and I thought it was good insight into Payton’s thinking:
Each offseason, Payton said during an appearance on the “Up and Adams” show with host Kay Adams, the list is organized into three buckets: musts, needs and wants. He shared the top item on the “musts” list — not that it was a mystery.

“We need a Joker,” Payton said. “It can be a tight end or a running back that has exceptional (receiving skills). … They have to be elite receivers and then you can get the matchups. Because you’re getting a two-high defense and you have to work inside.”

Wide receiver? Payton said the position falls into a “need” rather than a “must,” particularly after the growth he saw from three young receivers last season: Marvin Mims Jr., Devaughn Vele and Troy Franklin, who caught the lone touchdown pass in the loss to the Bills.

“We’re stronger there than people would think,” Payton said.

The other “musts,” Payton said, “are through the middle” on defense, mentioning inside linebacker and safety as areas where the Broncos need to upgrade the roster.

The Broncos’ search for the right addition with their first-round pick (No. 20) certainly won’t be limited to these positions, particularly if one or more is filled in free agency. Offensive tackle, for example, isn’t an immediate need, but if the draft fell in such a way that one of Denver’s top-graded prospects at the position was available, it would have to be a strong consideration. The same goes for wide defensive tackles, edge rushers and even corners.”

In essence agrees what DC says above - but certainly look for upgrades at must positions in either FA or draft.

 

[nflbronco]

We'll draft RB in 1st 2nd and 3rd we'll run the NFL wishbone in 2025 .

 

[SpringStein]

We'll draft RB in 1st 2nd and 3rd we'll run the NFL wishbone in 2025 .

And we’re bringing back Barry Switzer as OC!

 

[LGM]

Not to jump the gun, but a Starks/Fannin, Helm or Arroyo start to the draft would be amazing.

Frankly, there's probably a hundred different scenarios I'd love with the depth of this draft and how it matches up with positions needing depth.

 

[MileHigh64]

Yeah, the really good news here is that this year's draft has some good depth at the Broncos positions of need. They should be able to take BPA and still take care of their needs. Free agency will probably upend their strategy to some degree but that just makes the draft even more opportunistic. The Broncos have the 16th most CAP money to invest this year at $37mm, so they even have a little dough to work with. Russell who?

 

[listopencil]

I don't like this mindset. Not good to have 3 positions you want and say "Have to draft these three positions in the first three rounds", that is where drafts and franchises fail.

Gotta go value

FA is for needs
draft is for value.

Sure you have to combine them a bit too.

I prefer best player available at a position of need.

 

[Draft Crazy]

Not to jump the gun, but a Starks/Fannin, Helm or Arroyo start to the draft would be amazing.

Frankly, there's probably a hundred different scenarios I'd love with the depth of this draft and how it matches up with positions needing depth.

Fannin is basically a WR.

Not a Payton type of TE, IMO unless we plan to draft two.

If you look at Payton's history he doesn't roster TE's who can't block though. I think Fannin is off the radar for Denver. He is a REALLY good receiver though.

Payton didn't like Dulcich because he couldn't block.

 

[Mountain Bronco]

BPA is the way to draft with a little common sense i.e. if BPA on your board is a RG and you have a DT with a comparable grade but slightly lower you probably go DT. But if a TE everyone is clamoring for is there at your pick but there are ten+ other guys with way higher grades at other positions you don't reach for the TE just because it is a need. That is where drafts fail as DC wisely notes.

 

[listopencil]

BPA is the way to draft with a little common sense i.e. if BPA on your board is a RG and you have a DT with a comparable grade but slightly lower you probably go DT. But if a TE everyone is clamoring for is there at your pick but there are ten+ other guys with way higher grades at other positions you don't reach for the TE just because it is a need. That is where drafts fail as DC wisely notes.

Our biggest needs, in my opinion, are at DT, TE, and RB. Lately, those positions are valued in that order. The complications come when the team has to assign value to individuals, and then also for us armchair drafters because we have to guess how the team values the available players. So I'm looking at those 3 positions at our top 3 picks and trying to find guys that I think are "worth it" at each of our selections. So; DT Kenneth Grant or TE Colston Loveland might be worth it at #20. So would RB Ashton Jeanty, but he will probably be off the board by then. We'll see what happens. The Broncos can't be too rigid in their approach to the draft and it would be foolish of us to be too rigid in our expectations.

 

[LGM]

Fannin is basically a WR.

Not a Payton type of TE, IMO unless we plan to draft two.

If you look at Payton's history he doesn't roster TE's who can't block though. I think Fannin is off the radar for Denver. He is a REALLY good receiver though.

Payton didn't like Dulcich because he couldn't block.

I included him solely for that reason, If Payton and his "joker" position is to be believed. Jimmy Graham and other TE's have fit that bill, but as you said he's probably not the best blocker.

 

[CEH]

BPA is the way to draft with a little common sense i.e. if BPA on your board is a RG and you have a DT with a comparable grade but slightly lower you probably go DT. But if a TE everyone is clamoring for is there at your pick but there are ten+ other guys with way higher grades at other positions you don't reach for the TE just because it is a need. That is where drafts fail as DC wisely notes.

the teams create tiers which by the time their pick comes around the discussion usually centers on 1-3players if they stay true to the board.

 

[nflbronco]

Who is everyone's favorite IDL at pick 20?

 

[SpringStein]

Our biggest needs, in my opinion, are at DT, TE, and RB. Lately, those positions are valued in that order. The complications come when the team has to assign value to individuals, and then also for us armchair drafters

I’m more wrong than right, but safety to me is right up there with TE, RB, DT. Unless of course you think PJ Locke is a long term answer. (I don’t) To me a potentially great safety…ie Starks…. is available, that’s a massive upgrade.

The other thing to consider in addition to quality is quantity. I’ve been on the Loveland bandwagon, but if we didn’t take him at 20, I think there will be a very good TE still available at 51. The same with RB. Could we find a high quality RB in round 3 or 4? That’s possible.

 

[LGM]

Who is everyone's favorite IDL at pick 20?

Either guy from Michigan or Alfred Collins at DT/N. Likely at least one of the 3 will be gone by 20.

 

[Mountain Bronco]

ILD depends what you want. I think Mason Graham is gone by 20 but Water Nolen or Kenneth Grant are both solid. Collins I am not sure will be a good pass rusher, but could be an elite run stuffer (grant may fit this bill as well) with the physical traits to be a decent pass rusher. Nolen is kind of the opposite where he has a real good pass rush upside all over the line, but maybe not quite the run stuffer. Again, I think you could get a good DL prospect even later than 20, but that is true for a lot of positions as people have noted. Could be a draft where a lot of teams are looking to trade back due to the depth.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I love you all! The draft brings out the love in me.