2025 Draft discussion thread

[Draft Crazy]

Honestly at this point I'm not sure WR is as big of a need as many think it is. I would love a true #1 type WR. Not sure beyond the kid from AZ if you are finding a true day 1 X receiver. There are others I like as a developmental piece, but for now he is my only one I would like if we moved on from Sutton. Vele though is proving to be a nice #2 Z receiver. Mims and Frankling are figuring some things out so like I said I think the unit as a whole isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. Especially if you upgrade the TE position I think life gets a whole lot easier for everyone else.

100% agree. WR is not a position we need to break the bank for this offseason. We have plenty of solid WR's. A crazy good WR1 would be nice but not gonna break the bank for one. I think WR is a position anyone at anytime could draft and that includes us as the value is usually always good but we have plenty of WR's that will grow that we don't have to take one early like many people thik.
Put it this way if we knew what Vele was going to look like we wouldn't have signed Reynolds. Guessing he may be a post season cut for us not because he is bad but because we have other WR's who do what he does and we signed him as a safety net in which we like what the young WR's are doing so we will have more confidence at the WR position going into next year. That being said a STUD WR is always in play if the draft were to fall that way and there are plenty of good one's in this class. Not that we will have a shot at Travis Hunter but if he does go FT or 80% of the time at WR he would easily be a true #1... Just hard to say what is in store for him with his position flexibility in the future. We know he can't go FT in the NFL at both. Evan Stewart is an interesting prospect to me. Might be a better NFL WR then college WR, IMO. He was a good college WR but right when he was ready to take off circumstances around him happened and the he transferred to a offense who utilizes a lot of different weapons so his numbers aren't as good this year.
I REALLY REALLY like Miami WR Xavier Restrepo and Texas WR Isaiah Bond.

I think Clemson WR Antonio Williams and Miss State WR Kevin Coleman while not NFL studs are really flying under the radar too as playmaking WR's.

KY WR Barion Brown is very underrated to me... Should have put up better college numbers but has been in a horrible QB situation the last two years on a run first team. If he doesn't declare he will likely transfer, IMO to a much better WR system that will help his stock.

I could go on and on with WR's I like but I will talk about more later.


Xavier Restrepo though... I love this kid!!! Could be an elite slot WR in the NFL, IMO.

 

[Draft Crazy]

A TE to keep an eye on is Syracuse TE Oronde Gadsden II..

I don't think Payton is big on TE's who are purely pass catching TE's so I doubt he is for us but the guy is a great receiving TE, not much of a blocker.

Same with Bowling Green TE Harold Fannin JR.

These two would be fun to give Bo that extra receiving weapon but they just don't strike me as a Payton type of TE like Ty Warren. They do have the versatility of a WR/TE where you can split them out and win one on one matchups but depending on them to block and line up in the backfield like a Warren isn't going to happen.

 

[cdumler7]

A TE to keep an eye on is Syracuse TE Oronde Gadsden II..

I don't think Payton is big on TE's who are purely pass catching TE's so I doubt he is for us but the guy is a great receiving TE, not much of a blocker.

Same with Bowling Green TE Harold Fannin JR.

These two would be fun to give Bo that extra receiving weapon but they just don't strike me as a Payton type of TE like Ty Warren. They do have the versatility of a WR/TE where you can split them out and win one on one matchups but depending on them to block and line up in the backfield like a Warren isn't going to happen.

I've heard that Fannin is looking at transferring rather than entering the draft, but obviously still a couple of months for him to change his mind and maybe he gets some people telling him his draft stock is sky high so might as well go. I've also heard some character concerns are floating around, but we shall see.

I would agree that Payton likes TE's that can help in the run game if possible. I wouldn't say Jimmy Graham was a great blocking TE so he is willing to go with a guy geared more towards being a receiving option, but if he can find somebody that doesn't cue the defense to know what is coming that is a huge bonus. And with how much he loved Taysum Hill (and rightfully so) I think he is looking for someone that can bring multiple things to the table.

 

[LGM]

At this point, I'm pounding the table to re ign all our defense fa's.

I'm torn on Bolles, but at this point I'd sign him to a short deal as the fall back. See how the draft falls, the sign guys like we find every year under Paton.

We're closer than a lot of people gave us credit for, myself included. But the playmaker we need and how we're built suggest the big splashes are over.

 

[cdumler7]

In the past 5-10 years, the majority of true #1 WRs were drafted around where Denver is projected to draft, around #20 or later. If we draft a TE early, we've got to hit a home run.

You are right it does have to be a homerun, but as we have seen with Bo I think if there is a coach that can maximize a TE it is Payton. Jimmy Graham obviously enjoyed his best years as a pro under Payton. Taysum Hill enjoyed some great years with Payton. Jeremy Shockey when he was with the Giants and Payton was there had career years.

I would add that we are seeing more and more rookie TE's actually thrive in the NFL compared to many years before. Bowers this year is putting up some of the best stats of any TE in football. Sam LaPorta the year before. Kyle Pitts put up over 1000 yards as a rookie. Kincaid had a great rookie season. So I think there is a decent chance you could get a lot from a rookie TE and beyond.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I've heard that Fannin is looking at transferring rather than entering the draft, but obviously still a couple of months for him to change his mind and maybe he gets some people telling him his draft stock is sky high so might as well go. I've also heard some character concerns are floating around, but we shall see.

I would agree that Payton likes TE's that can help in the run game if possible. I wouldn't say Jimmy Graham was a great blocking TE so he is willing to go with a guy geared more towards being a receiving option, but if he can find somebody that doesn't cue the defense to know what is coming that is a huge bonus. And with how much he loved Taysum Hill (and rightfully so) I think he is looking for someone that can bring multiple things to the table.

If Fannin doesn't enter the draft, with the NIL he would 100% transfer. There is no doubt about that. He is going to get some good offers. His national draft grade right now is late Round 1. I think it will depend on how solid is NFL draft grade is at the ed of the season if he transfers or declares. Will be an interesting decision. IMO, he should declare but NIL has changed the game.

 

[cdumler7]

If Fannnin doesn't enter the draft with the NIL he would 100% transfer. There is no doubt about that. He is going to get some good offers. His national draft grade right now is late Round 1. I think it will depend on how solid is NFL draft grade is at the ed of the season if he transfers or declares. Will be an interesting decision. IMO, he should declare but NIL has changed the game.

I would agree. Definitely not the incentive of the past going from making no money to millions where now it is going from making possibly millions to oh I'm still making millions. The RB position I think the one that it makes the most sense to stay in. So few get a second contract in the NFL so staying an extra year just gives you that extra year of making money playing football.

 

[Draft Crazy]

I would agree. Definitely not the incentive of the past going from making no money to millions where now it is going from making possibly millions to oh I'm still making millions. The RB position I think the one that it makes the most sense to stay in. So few get a second contract in the NFL so staying an extra year just gives you that extra year of making money playing football.

Yep. Look at how may good JR RB's that would have normally declare in a heartbeat last year ended up staying in college.

TreVeyon Henderson
Tahj Brooks
Devin Neal
Rocket Sanders (He was injured most of last year but still would have gone with a decent draft grade)
Kyle Monangai


Just to name a few.

 

[cdumler7]

Yep. Look at how may good JR RB's that would have normally declare in a heartbeat last year ended up staying in college.

TreVeyon Henderson
Tahj Brooks
Devin Neal
Rocket Sanders (He was injured most of last year but still would have gone with a decent draft grade)
Kyle Monangai


Just to name a few.

Going to be interesting if anyone in that RB group surprises us that they return. Right now looking like one of the best RB classes in years so could cause a couple of guys to go back and wait for a weaker class the next season where they could go a bit higher plus get that extra year of NIL money.

 

[CEH]

You are right it does have to be a homerun, but as we have seen with Bo I think if there is a coach that can maximize a TE it is Payton. Jimmy Graham obviously enjoyed his best years as a pro under Payton. Taysum Hill enjoyed some great years with Payton. Jeremy Shockey when he was with the Giants and Payton was there had career years.

I would add that we are seeing more and more rookie TE's actually thrive in the NFL compared to many years before. Bowers this year is putting up some of the best stats of any TE in football. Sam LaPorta the year before. Kyle Pitts put up over 1000 yards as a rookie. Kincaid had a great rookie season. So I think there is a decent chance you could get a lot from a rookie TE and beyond.

Bowers is great. too bad he can’t make up 17 point deficients
Pitts had some buzz around the trade deadline
i’m 100% ok with trading picks for young players.

 

[cdumler7]

Bowers is great. too bad he can’t make up 17 point deficients
Pitts had some buzz around the trade deadline
i’m 100% ok with trading picks for young players.

TE is for sure a tough position to get right. I do think the Broncos are in a nice position though offensively where lets say you re-sign Bolles that you could have the luxury of adding a TE and not having to have them be everything for your team. Problem for Bowers is he obviously doesn't have much talent around him where let's say you do draft Warren he is walking into a great situation. LaPorta when he was drafted walked into a great situation. Kincaid with the Bills same thing.

I'm also good going another position, but I just think if Broncos are picking say early 20's in this upcoming draft almost all positions should be open. Taking RB/TE/Safety/OG/LB in the top-10 then you better have found the next HOF level player, but in the 20's it isn't as damaging if that player only becomes an average player at their position.

I do agree with being willing to trade picks for playesr that teams are thinking about cutting. JFM from the Jets is a great example of such a move that has changed this entire season for the Broncos. And it seems like about once a year Payton tries to make that kind of move. His first year he traded for Trautman with a late round pick (That turned into AT Perry who is now with the Broncos).

 

[Orange Crush77]

Whoever started this thread should be POTM. It’s a great thread

 

[Mingo]

Whoever started this thread should be POTM. It’s a great thread

if only he had someone to cheer him on.

 

[58crash]

I think he

if only he had someone to cheer him on.

needs to tell more Deer hunting stories ... That will take him over the top.. well that and fishing stories ... you know the thread starter ..

 

[Draft Crazy]

 

[Draft Crazy]

 

[58crash]

The football seem to like his hands

 

[LGM]

The football seem to like his hands

Kinky.

 

[cdumler7]

Luther Burden with quite the catch for a TD today.

x.com

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[Draft Crazy]

Kinky.

It caught OC's attention.