2025 Cowboy Draft

[jarntt]

Top prospect Abdul Carter weighing surgery in potential NFL draft twist

Carter is expected to make the decision this week.

nypost.com

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Top prospect Abdul Carter weighing surgery in potential NFL draft twist

Carter is expected to make the decision this week.

nypost.com

Been seeing a rumor that the Cowboys talked to the Titans about the 1st pick. They may like the fact he may need surgery.

 

[jarntt]

I would normally agree with you, but maybe not this season. Instead of the normal 17-18 legit 1st round graded players in the draft, most scouts i listen to agree that this year that number is more like 12-13 max. And one of those is a TE, so you might as well say 11-12 lol. The problem for us is we area picking for need. I'll give you an example. Let's say Osa leaves and Dallas decides they want a DT at 12. The only DT I've seen that most agree is a legit R1 grade is Mason Graham, but he will be long gone at 12. There are like 7-8 DT's that may not be the blue chip guy, but are all almost dead equal in grades or potential...Walter Nolen, Derrick Harmon, Tyleik Williams, Kenneth Grant, Deone Walker, Alfred Collins, Shemar Turner, Omarr-Norman Lott...so you pick anyone you want from that group...and I'll tell you that's a good prospect, but i can make an argument that the last 3 kids from that group will be just as good as whoever you take, because they are all pretty even. That's why I trade down. Same test at RB. Let's say we want RB but the only R1 guy, Jeanty is gone. Kiper just mocked us Hampton, so let's say that's your next guy. I'll say he is good, but if I took Johnson, Henderson or Judkins in round 2, they may not be Jeanty, but they are right there with Hampton(I actually prefer Henderson). If we found a trade partner I would make the move but I respect what you're saying

Who are most? Media people doing mocks or NFL head scouts and GMs? I haven't seen lists from the latter and have zero interest in the former

Regardless, this team has so many needs. DT is just one of many. So if that is the intent, finding a good player that also fits a big need should not be difficult.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Who are most? Media people doing mocks or NFL head scouts and GMs? I haven't seen lists from the latter and have zero interest in the former

Regardless, this team has so many needs. DT is just one of many. So if that is the intent, finding a good player that also fits a big need should not be difficult.

NFL scouts and GM's aren't the only folks that are allowed to have an informed opinion Bro. NFL scouts from all 32 teams passed on Tom Brady 5 times each, real NFL scouts and GM's took Leonard Fornette over Christian McCaffrey and Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes(in the same damn draft LMAO), and another we all know took Taco Charlton over T.J. Watt, so don't act like currents are the end all know all

 

[jarntt]

NFL scouts and GM's aren't the only folks that are allowed to have an informed opinion Bro. NFL scouts from all 32 teams passed on Tom Brady 5 times each, real NFL scouts and GM's took Leonard Fornette over Christian McCaffrey and Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes(in the same damn draft LMAO), and another we all know took Taco Charlton over T.J. Watt, so don't act like currents are the end all know all

Of course, but at day's end, wrong or right, NFL GMs are the ONLY opinions that matter. Everyone has misses, so that's a odd attempt at trying to state something. I'll trust the scout who spends all day every day looking at players over the media guy who basically copies some other media guys mock and then changes it up a little any day based on which college games he happened to have watched that year.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Of course, but at day's end, wrong or right, NFL GMs are the ONLY opinions that matter. Everyone has misses, so that's a odd attempt at trying to state something. I'll trust the scout who spends all day every day looking at players over the media guy who basically copies some other media guys mock and then changes it up a little any day based on which college games he happened to have watched that year.

Yeah but earlier you said you would like either of the safties at 12. Did one of the current Scouts or GM's tell you those two were good players? You do the same thing

 

[jarntt]

Yeah but earlier you said you would like either of the safties at 12. Did one of the current Scouts or GM's tell you those two were good players? You do the same thing

No. I like both players. I saw them play and want them on this team because they would help us and because our safeties suck. It is my opinion based on what I saw, not based on the mock or opinion of some guy who may or may not have watched them play

I haven't seen a mock with either as high as 12 but I would take either of them. Personally i like the South Carolina kid a little bit more, but would love either

 

[UK Cowboy]

No. I like both players. I saw them play and want them on this team because they would help us and because our safeties suck. It is my opinion based on what I saw, not based on the mock or opinion of some guy who may or may not have watched them play

I haven't seen a mock with either as high as 12 but I would take either of them. Personally i like the South Carolina kid a little bit more, but would love either

I go off what I see mostly as well more than anything. I guess I wouldn't make a good scout. I do like Barron from Texas but I love Mukuba. I see mocks with him late 2nd early 3rd, but I think he will be a great pro. Head hunter and playmaker. I also really like the DT Collins from Texas, I think he will be a heck of a pro but he is another guy that shows up 2nd or 3rd round. The reason I'm so high on Tyler Warren from PSU is I watched 5-6 of their games and he was always the best player on the field. I think it's what makes the draft fun