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2024 Patriots Draft Thread

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Two QBs both of which I like.
I don't consider myself a scout. Nor should some of the past Pats scouts with regard to some of their choices. It would be nice to learn how much, if any of their reports/recommendations BB ever used?

I'm still in the camp if we can get someone's 1st and 2nd this year and their 1st next year, Or 1st & 3rd + whatever other pick equals the trade value and next years 1st, I'm trading back and taking one of the other top 6. JJ, Nix or Penix. It's such a crap shoot, give me those additional picks. QB, WR, OL can all be filled with potential starters.
 

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I don't consider myself a scout. Nor should some of the past Pats scouts with regard to some of their choices. It would be nice to learn how much, if any of their reports/recommendations BB ever used?

I'm still in the camp if we can get someone's 1st and 2nd this year and their 1st next year, Or 1st & 3rd + whatever other pick equals the trade value and next years 1st, I'm trading back and taking one of the other top 6. JJ, Nix or Penix. It's such a crap shoot, give me those additional picks. QB, WR, OL can all be filled with potential starters.
I agree 1.500,000 % but in the event they choose to take a QB, you gotta do the homework
 

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I agree 1.500,000 % but in the event they choose to take a QB, you gotta do the homework
Everywhere on the tube and radio people are saying that the Vikings and Giants are the two biggest partners at the moment for the Patriots to trade out of #3.

Rumored trade bounties:

Vikings = #11and #23, 2025 and 2026 first round picks

Giants = #6, #47 (2nd), #70 (3rd), 2025 first and third.

Consideration!!! Will either team make it deep into the playoffs and thus the picks be at the end of the first round??

Raiders, Broncos have also thrown their hats into the ring but no one has any idea what they could offer to get more consideration.

According to Daniel Jeramiah, Patriots might do the deal with Giants and then trade #6 with another QB hungry team, possibly the Vikings and still end up with the #11 and #23 and have 2025 first round picks from both NYG and MIN.
 

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Everywhere on the tube and radio people are saying that the Vikings and Giants are the two biggest partners at the moment for the Patriots to trade out of #3.

Rumored trade bounties:

Vikings = #11and #23, 2025 and 2026 first round picks

Giants = #6, #47 (2nd), #70 (3rd), 2025 first and third.

Consideration!!! Will either team make it deep into the playoffs and thus the picks be at the end of the first round??

Raiders, Broncos have also thrown their hats into the ring but no one has any idea what they could offer to get more consideration.

According to Daniel Jeramiah, Patriots might do the deal with Giants and then trade #6 with another QB hungry team, possibly the Vikings and still end up with the #11 and #23 and have 2025 first round picks from both NYG and MIN.
I know there are charts used to govern value of trade positions Vikings trade has a lot of value, Giants trade has value and may still land McCarthy
 

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I know there are charts used to govern value of trade positions Vikings trade has a lot of value, Giants trade has value and may still land McCarthy
Using those charts is a fools errand. Every draft has it's own unique sum of values. IMO - the "Jimmy Johnson" system was meant to start a conversation and not meant to set a currency value.
 

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I agree 1.500,000 % but in the event they choose to take a QB, you gotta do the homework
The point being teams do their homework year in and year out and still swing and miss often.
 

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Everywhere on the tube and radio people are saying that the Vikings and Giants are the two biggest partners at the moment for the Patriots to trade out of #3.

Rumored trade bounties:

Vikings = #11and #23, 2025 and 2026 first round picks

Giants = #6, #47 (2nd), #70 (3rd), 2025 first and third.

Consideration!!! Will either team make it deep into the playoffs and thus the picks be at the end of the first round??

Raiders, Broncos have also thrown their hats into the ring but no one has any idea what they could offer to get more consideration.

According to Daniel Jeramiah, Patriots might do the deal with Giants and then trade #6 with another QB hungry team, possibly the Vikings and still end up with the #11 and #23 and have 2025 first round picks from both NYG and MIN.
End of the 1st combined with NEs pick would give the Pats capital to move up if they choose so? Plus if NE trades down this year, they fill a couple of the holes this year they aren't as in need to be in the top part of the 2025 draft.

Those rumored trade scenarios are a win win IMHO. Or roll the dice and hope you didn't take a bust at #3 this year.
 

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The point being teams do their homework year in and year out and still swing and miss often.
Agreed, it's often a crap shoot there have plenty of round 1 and 2 busts and plenty of round 5 and 6 gems
 

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Using those charts is a fools errand. Every draft has it's own unique sum of values. IMO - the "Jimmy Johnson" system was meant to start a conversation and not meant to set a currency value.
Isn't "starting a conversation" what he is trying to do?
Or is he showing you you cash?
 

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Isn't "starting a conversation" what he is trying to do?
Or is he showing you you cash?
The conversation I meant was between two teams making a trade, not us here. For us, all is fair game.
 

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According to Andrew Callahan of the Boston Herald, Jerod Mayo hinted that the Patriots are listening to every team that wants to get the #3. He also hinted that unless that team is willing to "sacrifice", there will be no deal.
 

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According to Andrew Callahan of the Boston Herald, Jerod Mayo hinted that the Patriots are listening to every team that wants to get the #3. He also hinted that unless that team is willing to "sacrifice", there will be no deal.
Earth shattering reporting by Andrew. What else would he say? We're not interested?
 

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