2024 draft prospect thread

[skinsdad62]

you also said there was no way we could have traded KC and you were wrong on that one as Jay Gruden confirmed that we could have.

yeah 1 for 10

 

[skinsdad62]

Gentlemen, I'm going to say this one more time and leave it at that. Drafting ANY player, especially a QB high and it doesn't work out, isn't setting your team back for half a decade. Incompetence and trying to make something work longer than necessary sets you back.

sty , how long do you give a qb a chance to prove himself ?

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Gentlemen, I'm going to say this one more time and leave it at that. Drafting ANY player, especially a QB high and it doesn't work out, isn't setting your team back for half a decade. Incompetence and trying to make something work longer than necessary sets you back.

We have already explained how it sets a franchise back years. As we saw in Buffalo when you take a QB high you have to give him time. So that's at least 2-3 years, then you start over if it does not work.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

you can say that about any team if they dont hit on their QB in the draft in the top 5 never mind trading picks for. The QB injuries are making you right, Rg3 was supposed to be what Lamar Jackson is right now. KC didn't want to stay here after the low-ball offer, Allen should have realized that and made the trade with the 49ers. That put us back quite a bit on top of the career ending A. Smith injury. I don't think you forecasted a career ending injury for Smith. If Smith played and stood healthy, Haskins would have never been drafted. They would have built around Smith.,

I haven't done any scouting on the QB's yet in the draft.

You are saying the injury to Alex Smith was significant for this team and they would have built around him? Did you actually watch Alex Smith before he was injured? He was Captain Checkdown, the offense was full of chicken shit short throws that did not produce nearly enough points. He was a player 2 contending teams felt was not good enough to win a Super Bowl with. By the time we got him a QB who was not good enough before his arrival was washed and over the hill.

Now Cousins is a different story. He remains the best QB this team has had since Joe Theisman.

 

[deanpet21]

You are saying the injury to Alex Smith was significant for this team and they would have built around him? Did you actually watch Alex Smith before he was injured? He was Captain Checkdown, the offense was full of chicken shit short throws that did not produce nearly enough points. He was a player 2 contending teams felt was not good enough to win a Super Bowl with. By the time we got him a QB who was not good enough before his arrival was washed and over the hill.

Now Cousins is a different story. He remains the best QB this team has had since Joe Theisman.

agreed but he would have been serviceable and would never have drafted Haskins if Smith stayed healthy.

 

[Sportster 72]

5 years is a long time in the NFL when many players don't last past the 4th unless they can come in cheap.
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Swapping 1st round draft picks and then trading two more away as well as other picks most certainly retards a rebuld/growth. You can recover from a 1st round bust as long as they aren't year after year.

Dean is right ... SF was going to give a 1st for Cousins. If you weren't going to sign him they should have made that trade. Cousins covered for the bust of Griffin but not getting that 1 from San Fran was a mistake.

 

[deanpet21]

5 years is a long time in the NFL when many players don't last past the 4th unless they can come in cheap.
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Swapping 1st round draft picks and then trading two more away as well as other picks most certainly retards a rebuld/growth. You can recover from a 1st round bust as long as they aren't year after year.

Dean is right ... SF was going to give a 1st for Cousins. If you weren't going to sign him they should have made that trade. Cousins covered for the bust of Griffin but not getting that 1 from San Fran was a mistake.

we would have gotten more than a 1 from SF for KC. that pick would have been #2 in the draft. Maybe we would have drafted Tribusky or Watson but who knows. That set us back aways. Plus, the replacement for KC in Smith set us back with the career ending injury. Plus Fitz. lol. what a mess.

 

[Sportster 72]

San Fran drafted 3rd and took Solomon Thomas. Mahomes went 10th.

I do not believe Snyder and Allen would have managed it well. Too much previous history by these two says we are sitting here bitching about the same things in a different way.

To me the excitement for the team now is what "might" be going forward.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

agreed but he would have been serviceable and would never have drafted Haskins if Smith stayed healthy.

I just don't agree. They knew Smith was a placeholder and nothing more, they knew they needed more production from the position so Dan probably would have still forced the pick.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

San Fran drafted 3rd and took Solomon Thomas. Mahomes went 10th.

I do not believe Snyder and Allen would have managed it well. Too much previous history by these two says we are sitting here bitching about the same things in a different way.

To me the excitement for the team now is what "might" be going forward.

They traded back with Chicago from 2 to the 3rd spot. Of course they should have made that trade but also agree they would have screwed it up anyway.

As for Cousins again that is why you draft BPA and not for need. Obviously KC was not a need after the first pick but the way to draft is to draft the best player because things can change as we saw.

 

[duke1861]

Cousins has been gone for almost 6 years...yet we still talk about it as if it was yesterday

Here is to 6 more years...sigh

 

[Stymietee]

sty , how long do you give a qb a chance to prove himself ?

I have an idea of what I'm looking for in a QB if he doesn't show me something close to those expectations within his first year starting (he sits a year first) then I'm thinking about his ability to become a multiple-SB winning QB. That said, It's incumbent on me to fashion the offense to something similar to what caused me to draft him in the first place.

For the record, Howell is a poor fit for this team as constructed. He needs powerful lines and game-changers all around him because he isn't one.

 

[Sportster 72]

They traded back with Chicago from 2 to the 3rd spot. Of course they should have made that trade but also agree they would have screwed it up anyway.

As for Cousins again that is why you draft BPA and not for need. Obviously KC was not a need after the first pick but the way to draft is to draft the best player because things can change as we saw.

I wondered if that was the case but looked it up on pro football reference which did not give the history of the pick. Thanks.

Good trade by SF because Tribusky is a bust.

 

[Sportster 72]

Cousins has been gone for almost 6 years...yet we still talk about it as if it was yesterday

Here is to 6 more years...sigh

Context is everything. We are not talking about Cousins so much as a sequences of moves by a very bad Washington FO that made multiple mistakes and instead of halfway saving the first mistake it was compounded by Snyder's pettiness.

Thanks for playing though.

 

[Stymietee]

sty , how long do you give a qb a chance to prove himself ?

For me, after considering my original response, there's zero room for "proving oneself" I'm looking for a level of competence, skill, and ability to lift the play of others around him. Proving himself to me means that I've now built my team in a way to compete and win against all competition BECAUSE of him and them. Such "proof" if that's the metric, comes during the playoffs and SB games. Even then, I'm never satisfied, Win a SB, how about another where we go undefeated? Or another where the closest competition was in a 20-point win?

 

[duke1861]

Maybe in the year 2000 we will still be talking about Kirk cousins?

In the year 2000, redskins/Washington football team/commanders fans will still be talking about Kirk cousins.

In the year 2000....

 

[gkekoa]

Maybe in the year 2000 we will still be talking about Kirk cousins?

In the year 2000, redskins/Washington football team/commanders fans will still be talking about Kirk cousins.

In the year 2000....

I am confused…the year 2000?

 

[duke1861]

I am confused…the year 2000?

Old Conan OBrien skit.

Youtube it. It was hilarious..

 

[Sportster 72]

I am confused…the year 2000?

So is duke.

Because I mentioned how many times he told us and deanpet that RR and Wentz sucks he is trying to punch back like a fly weight.

Sadly the discussion he went after was about how personnel was handled in 2012 and 2017 and not about Cousins. But if you want to know that RR and Wentz sucked he has you covered.

I think the last time a Washington fan was at least 60% in was Kyle Smith. I don't think anyone else in the Snyder era .... Vinny, Bruce o RR would have been considered a good GM.

 

[j_y19]

LSU's Daniels to enter NFL draft, skip bowl game

LSU dual-threat QB Jayden Daniels will not play in the ReliaQuest Bowl vs. Wisconsin and instead will prepare for the NFL draft, he announced.

www.espn.com

donyou really think Herbert or tua could have succeeded on this team with this oline? they would have been whiffs here also.