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But dpoy is something he earned…multiple times

Agree.

Keep in mind that the vast history of DPOY that award has gone to the center who is the best rim protector.

Times are slowly changing.

But that to me doesn’t mean that Dwight was a better defender than AD. He just better fit the mold of the player who typically wins DPOY.
 
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Have not seen this reported by a single reputable site.

Got it off Hoopshype.

But, they just warehouse basketball tweets.

Dunno if they vet them.

If true, Morey and the 6ers are fucked.


According to Harden, he and Morey had a handshake agreement to a new max extension before this summer, which is why he was surprised when no such offer came his way last month. Even still, Harden opted into the final year of his deal and Morey is under no obligation to make a deal before February’s trade deadline. “Even though he made a promise and didn’t give it to you, you have to understand that it happens,” said Hardaway. “I would have went in his office and spoke to him and we would have had a nice conversation. There would have been some cursing going on, some back and forth going on, but I think they could have gotten something hashed out.”


I’ve read just the opposite. There was no handshake deal and what Harden is alluding to with the lie is that when he opted in that Morey agreed that he would try and trade him.
 

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Have not seen this reported by a single reputable site.

Got it off Hoopshype.

But, they just warehouse basketball tweets.

Dunno if they vet them.

If true, Morey and the 6ers are fucked.


According to Harden, he and Morey had a handshake agreement to a new max extension before this summer, which is why he was surprised when no such offer came his way last month. Even still, Harden opted into the final year of his deal and Morey is under no obligation to make a deal before February’s trade deadline. “Even though he made a promise and didn’t give it to you, you have to understand that it happens,” said Hardaway. “I would have went in his office and spoke to him and we would have had a nice conversation. There would have been some cursing going on, some back and forth going on, but I think they could have gotten something hashed out.”


Also, it seems like this emanates from Tim Hardaway Jr just talking shit on a podcast. I doubt he has talked to James Harden and is in the loop on what was promised and what wasn’t.

And I still keep coming back to this:
Why does Harden have his agent leak reports of mutual interest with Houston numerous times last year starting with the Christmas Day game vs the Knicks?
 

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Also, it seems like this emanates from Tim Hardaway Jr just talking shit on a podcast. I doubt he has talked to James Harden and is in the loop on what was promised and what wasn’t.

And I still keep coming back to this:
Why does Harden have his agent leak reports of mutual interest with Houston numerous times last year starting with the Christmas Day game vs the Knicks?
Agree.

I have not seen it reported anywhere that Harden actually said this.
 

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I’ve read just the opposite. There was no handshake deal and what Harden is alluding to with the lie is that when he opted in that Morey agreed that he would try and trade him.

Uh, if they agreed to this before Harden opted in...

that's a handshake deal.
 

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Uh, if they agreed to this before Harden opted in...

that's a handshake deal.
That’s not what Mecca’s post is saying the handshake deal was. That’s not worthy of an investigation or sanctions against the Sixers for skirting the cap. It’s two entirely different things. Keep up.
 

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That’s not what Mecca’s post is saying the handshake deal was. That’s not worthy of an investigation or sanctions against the Sixers for skirting the cap. It’s two entirely different things. Keep up.

You just want to avoid the Joe smith you deserve lol (I don’t blame you)
 

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You just want to avoid the Joe smith you deserve lol (I don’t blame you)
Looking more and more like Harden didn’t have that wink/wink agreement. There’s dozens of quotes out there he’s given about why he took less. There’s the reality that his agent was leaking Houston stuff as a negotiating ploy numerous times last year. Why are you worried about a negotiation if you have a handshake deal? Doesn’t make sense. His actions and his words say he never had anything like that.
 

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Looking more and more like Harden didn’t have that wink/wink agreement. There’s dozens of quotes out there he’s given about why he took less. There’s the reality that his agent was leaking Houston stuff as a negotiating ploy numerous times last year. Why are you worried about a negotiation if you have a handshake deal? Doesn’t make sense. His actions and his words say he never had anything like that.
No one is going to take Hardens side, I doubt his own mother speaks to him.
 

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That’s not what Mecca’s post is saying the handshake deal was. That’s not worthy of an investigation or sanctions against the Sixers for skirting the cap. It’s two entirely different things. Keep up.

Really? The first sentence in what she quoted wasn't...

"According to Harden, he and Morey had a handshake deal"?

She didn't say...

"If this is true, Morey and the 6ers are fucked"?

You saying that what you've heard is different doesn't change that.

At this point, nothing would surprise me with this shit show.

I could see the Sixers being stupid enough to do it, I could see Harden being stupid enough to say it without realizing the league could void his deal, and I could also see none of it being true.
 

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Really? The first sentence in what she quoted wasn't...

"According to Harden, he and Morey had a handshake deal"?

She didn't say...

"If this is true, Morey and the 6ers are fucked"?

You saying that what you've heard is different doesn't change that.

At this point, nothing would surprise me with this shit show.

I could see the Sixers being stupid enough to do it, I could see Harden being stupid enough to say it without realizing the league could void his deal, and I could also see none of it being true.
Quick recap:
1. Mecca’s says look at this stuff that hasn’t been reported by anybody reputable.
2. I respond by saying that isn’t the hand shake deal I’m hearing about that is the source of the Harden’s Morey is a liar comment.
3. You sarcastically say “uh that is a handshake deal.”
4. I pointed out that the two things are entirely different. Meccas post’s situation the Sixers are getting a Joe Smith level punishment. In my situation, it’s oh well James, tough titties…you got played.

Try and keep up.
 
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Quick recap:
1. Mecca’s says look at this stuff that hasn’t been reported by anybody reputable.
2. I respond by saying that isn’t the hand shake deal I’m hearing about that is the source of the Harden’s Morey is a liar comment.
3. You sarcastically say “uh that is a handshake deal.”
4. I pointed out that the two things are entirely different. Meccas post’s situation the Sixers are getting a Joe Smith level punishment. In my situation, it’s oh well James, tough titties…you got played.

Try and keep up.

And I said Harden and the Sixers are such a shit show that just about anything is believable.
 

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Have not seen this reported by a single reputable site.

Got it off Hoopshype.

But, they just warehouse basketball tweets.

Dunno if they vet them.

If true, Morey and the 6ers are fucked.


According to Harden, he and Morey had a handshake agreement to a new max extension before this summer, which is why he was surprised when no such offer came his way last month. Even still, Harden opted into the final year of his deal and Morey is under no obligation to make a deal before February’s trade deadline. “Even though he made a promise and didn’t give it to you, you have to understand that it happens,” said Hardaway. “I would have went in his office and spoke to him and we would have had a nice conversation. There would have been some cursing going on, some back and forth going on, but I think they could have gotten something hashed out.”


Was it in writing?

Harden was leaking those Houston rumors months ago, so one has to wonder why he decided to opt in all based on a handshake agreement.
If it was just verbal, all Morey has to say is Harden misunderstood.

I trust Silver to get to the bottom of this........
 

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Was it in writing?

Harden was leaking those Houston rumors months ago, so one has to wonder why he decided to opt in all based on a handshake agreement.
If it was just verbal, all Morey has to say is Harden misunderstood.

I trust Silver to get to the bottom of this........
I really think it’s a typical Silver move. People are talking so let’s go through the motions and say we looked into it. Then release some statement that they found nothing but carefully word it to make sure Harden doesn’t look like he’s lying.
 
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