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2023 offseason thread

trojanfan12

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Correct. The team on the other side of deal matters most. What do they think?

You mean the team that was too stupid to put a contending roster around a special player when they had 11 years to do so?

That the team you're talking about?
 

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Correct. The team on the other side of deal matters most. What do they think?

Well the GM clearly doesn't want to trade with Miami as he made very clear over the last 3 weeks

He doesn't even want to tell Miami what he wants lol
 

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I would take Herro over Cam Johnson EVERYTIME
Not me. Cam Johnson shoots the three better, has a better EFG% and is the better defensive player.

But let’s not squabble over silly things. Cam Johnson wasn’t the best player in that deal. Mikal Bridges was. So despite the fact that I disagree we can agree that a deal with Herro as the key piece in the deal isn’t close to the value seen in that deal
 

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You mean the team that was too stupid to put a contending roster around a special player when they had 11 years to do so?

That the team you're talking about?
I mean the only team that matters. You seemed like you wanted to dismiss my assessment by saying it doesn’t matter instead of trying to actually debate the point. I just did it better than you did it by jumping to the only entity that matters.
 

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Well the GM clearly doesn't want to trade with Miami as he made very clear over the last 3 weeks

He doesn't even want to tell Miami what he wants lol
He doesn’t want to deal with the only team he’s been told he’s allowed to deal with? Weird that he wouldn’t jump at the chance to make another franchise better.
 

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And you claiming he's not a valuable asset doesn't mean he isn't.

Correct. The team on the other side of deal matters most. What do they think?

You mean the team that was too stupid to put a contending roster around a special player when they had 11 years to do so?

That the team you're talking about?

Not me. Cam Johnson shoots the three better, has a better EFG% and is the better defensive player.

But let’s not squabble over silly things. Cam Johnson wasn’t the best player in that deal. Mikal Bridges was. So despite the fact that I disagree we can agree that a deal with Herro as the key piece in the deal isn’t close to the value seen in that deal

As I said, other teams don’t seem to think he’s that great or they would’ve coughed up the picks to make this deal done

He’s closer to Jordan Poole than mikal bridges

I can see why Portland would want future picks instead

It also clears out future cap room to add more and contracts and picks
 

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Not me. Cam Johnson shoots the three better, has a better EFG% and is the better defensive player.

But let’s not squabble over silly things. Cam Johnson wasn’t the best player in that deal. Mikal Bridges was. So despite the fact that I disagree we can agree that a deal with Herro as the key piece in the deal isn’t close to the value seen in that deal

Dame isn’t as good as Durant, but yes that’s also fair
 

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Dame isn’t as good as Durant, but yes that’s also fair
Is he as good as Donovan Mitchell? Cause Utah got Markannen for him Cam Johnson Sexton and Herro is a debate. Two of those guys were the second best player in a deal for a star.
 

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Dame isn’t as good as Durant, but yes that’s also fair
Also didn’t you hear the new rules? Portland failed to build a winner around Dame so they lose the right to do what’s best for them in all future trades. Those are the new rules.
 

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Is he as good as Donovan Mitchell? Cause Utah got Markannen for him Cam Johnson Sexton and Herro is a debate. Two of those guys were the second best player in a deal for a star.

It’s hard to say. Mitchell an ascending asset for his time, dame descending

But Better at peak form right now
 

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I mean the only team that matters. You seemed like you wanted to dismiss my assessment by saying it doesn’t matter instead of trying to actually debate the point. I just did it better than you did it by jumping to the only entity that matters.

There's no real point to debate. The game is played the way it's played and Portland has what is likely the best offer they will get and they did it to themselves. You trying to talk about offers that don't exist is pointless.
 

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Is he as good as Donovan Mitchell? Cause Utah got Markannen for him Cam Johnson Sexton and Herro is a debate. Two of those guys were the second best player in a deal for a star.

Herro and Sexton is a debate? LMAO
 

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Also didn’t you hear the new rules? Portland failed to build a winner around Dame so they lose the right to do what’s best for them in all future trades. Those are the new rules.

Yeah, making up shit that wasn't said isn't going to help you.
 

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If Herro and Sexton is a debate then so are the following

Sexton and Poole

Sexton and RJ

Sexton and Maxey
 

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There's no real point to debate. The game is played the way it's played and Portland has what is likely the best offer they will get and they did it to themselves. You trying to talk about offers that don't exist is pointless.
Actually, I’m talking about Portland’s decision to drag their feet instead of taking fifty cents on the dollar for the best asset they’ll have in a long time.
 

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If Herro and Sexton is a debate then so are the following

Sexton and Poole

Sexton and RJ

Sexton and Maxey

There’s not much of a debate maxey is better than all 3 of those comps by far
 

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Actually, I’m talking about Portland’s decision to drag their feet instead of taking fifty cents on the dollar for the best asset they’ll have in a long time.

Portland is stuck.

But they can at least make Miami work to redirect Herro to a better home
 

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Actually, I’m talking about Portland’s decision to drag their feet instead of taking fifty cents on the dollar for the best asset they’ll have in a long time.

But they were better off getting this done and getting the 18th pick this year
 
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