2022 NFL Draft

[deep9er]

Last year we all wondered about Aaron Banks in the 2nd and this draft its Tyrion Davis-Price in Round 3?! Not that these players aren't good but are they good VALUE?

I was thinking they'd try to find a fast RB who might be able to execute the way outside runs (ala Mostert)? But they went for another "power back" in Ty Davis-Price. Not that we can't use a bigger back, but you'd think these types (goal line, 4th and 1, pass blocking?) would be 5th or 6th round picks? If TDP was a high draft prospect then i'd be fine with him as BPA, but nowhere do i read or watched this is the case?

Otherwise, the picks so far seem ok. I really LIKE the 4th round OT pick because OT is a harder position to fill than OG. I don't see good value at C so going OT is fine with me.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Oline is gonna be intriguing going into training camp

Last year we all wondered about Aaron Banks in the 2nd and this draft its Tyrion Davis-Price in Round 3?! Not that these players aren't good but are they good VALUE?

I was thinking they'd try to find a fast RB who might be able to execute the way outside runs (ala Mostert)? But they went for another "power back" in Ty Davis-Price. Not that we can't use a bigger back, but you'd think these types (goal line, 4th and 1, pass blocking?) would be 5th or 6th round picks? If TDP was a high draft prospect then i'd be fine with him as BPA, but nowhere do i read or watched this is the case?

Otherwise, the picks so far seem ok. I really LIKE the 4th round OT pick because OT is a harder position to fill than OG. I don't see good value at C so going OT is fine with me.

Yea, this is a strange draft.

Edge Jackson, I can understand as a BPA choice. He'll be used initially as a pass rush specialist. Our 4th quarter defensive failures are the big reason why we lost the SB and why didn't get back there again this year. More pass rush depth will help the whole defense.

RB Price. at 93, this seems WAY early. Like a full round too early. I figured we'd take a RB at some point b/c Mitchell couldn't stay healthy while carrying so much of the load, Hasty is barely hanging onto a roster spot, and Sermon looked like a bust. Then again, if Price turns out to be a bust too, teh team should reevaluate how/why they keep overvaluing and reaching for RBs (ala Sermon). We always seem to have a "what are they thinking?" pick and this is definitely it. I'll bet the team wanted Parham or Ryan, the 2 OGs taken right ahead of us, but two safeties were still on the board, Cross and Joseph. I dont' get it.

WR Gray. I liked this pick. Gray is a speedster and deep threat. He'll bring something new to the offense and it fits b/c with Lance at QB, we're going to be throwing deep more often than we did with Jimmy.

OT Burford. Anotehr good choice. The guy started 43 games over 4 seasons, so he's got experience. And he played every OL position but center, so he's got great flexibility. Spent a lot of time at LT, so he's got athleticism and the tape says he does well blocking on the move.

Now, if we can just grab a center in the next round or 2...

 

[deep9er]

I'll bet the team wanted Parham or Ryan, the 2 OGs taken right ahead of us, but two safeties were still on the board, Cross and Joseph. I dont' get it.

I agree on Parham who seemed to be our pick late 3rd? Dang Packers!

Cross seemed like a good alternative but apparently they didn't value him enough. For me, everything Pre-Draft seemed to say he was value late 3rd.

 

[deep9er]

Denver just took a Center ahead of us, we'll never know if he was our guy?

 

[deep9er]

5th Round - Samuel Womack, CB, Toledo

I'm guessing he's targetted for NB, at 5'-9"? His height doesn't necessarily limit him to NB, but we'll read about it now.

 

[deep9er]

From Lance Zerlein:

Former walk-on who has developed into a ball-hawking slot defender. Womack has eye-popping speed and quickness with above-average ball production as a three-year starter. He's a natural at searching for clues and utilizing quality pathways to play the throw. Inconsistent technique and a lack of poise and positioning downfield are areas of concern that might not be easily correctable with coaching. Womack is not strong against the run, but he's sticky from press and instinctive from zone, which gives him a chance to compete for a roster spot.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

5th Round - Samuel Womack, CB, Toledo

I'm guessing he's targetted for NB, at 5'-9"? His height doesn't necessarily limit him to NB, but we'll read about it now.

Yea, looking like Womack will compete with Lenoire for the NCB spot.

I think it's interesting that Burford, Woma,ck, and Zackelj are all from small schools, but all of them were 1st team all conference, and even made 1st team several times. Both Burford and Zackelj were mostly LTs, and that usually means their the most athletic OL on the team, but in the NFL they could end up moving to OG some--we took a similar draft strategy many years ago, I remember when we drafted Kilgore and Person, who were both LTs at small conference schools and both ended up being decent OGs.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Considering all the centers we passed on, it Looks like the team has a plan at center and knows what it's going to do. IF Mack is playing, fine. If he isn't, there is talk that Brunskill will be the center.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Overall
Love the Jackson pick in rd 2. Can never have enough pass rushers and this kid will be the pass rush specialist that Ford was supposed to be. He's weak against the run, but that won't be his role for a while. Between Bosa, Jackson, Ebukam, and Hyder, it looks like we'll be OK on the outside.

Love the OL picks of Burford and Zakelj. Both LTs, both small conference but All-Conference there, both project inside to OG. Both blocked well on the move and had good 10 yard splits. The competiton at IOL is going to be interesting. Moore, Banks, Brunskill, and these 2 rookies. Surely we can make an improvement at RG...

The WR pick of Gray is a good one, but I think his inconsistent hands will frustrate fans and coaches. HE'll be able to get open deep, but it'll be 50/50 if he catches the ball. Think of Ted Ginn's early years--he didn't learn to catch the ball consistently until he was on his 2nd or 3rd team.

Womack will be the competition at NCB. The guy has had to fight and claw for everything he's got, having started off as a walk on, so we dont' have to worry about his work ethic or passion for the game. He and Lenoire and one other will be in the mix at NCB. The other CB we took Piter, is a H/W/S guy who we hope we can develop into something.

And of course we took an injured DT. At least we waited until day 3 to do it this time instead of doing in rd 1 like with Kinlaw. Apparently, this DT busted a knee in midseason (when he was projected as early as rd 3), so it's doubtful he'll be read for the season and will probably start the year on the PUP and then be shifted to IR. Not a bad pick.

And then there is the RB from LSU. I hated the pick. This was a round or 2 too early. It looks like a repeat of the reach pick at RB from last year with Sermon--which was another of the NIner FO's yearly "who? And isn't this a round too early?" pick. If he was the pick at the end of the 4th or early in the 5th, I woudln't care as much, b/c the lower pick is more worth the gamble that he'll round into shape and be better in teh NFL than he was in college.


UDFA
Looks like we got a pretty good UDFA haul. 2 centers. 1 was West, teh guy most of us wanted the Niners to draft in rd 5, and he fell to us as an undrafted. Then Poe was a late riser, and a very athletic player that started out at FB, but bulked up and did well on the OL. He projects to be better at OG and OC. Both ahve a shot at the roster, but West is easily the more refined player and Poe could be pegged for the PS b/c even though he's a very good athlete, he'll need some seasoning to play center in the NFL.

Another good signing was Leon O'Neal, the safety from A&M. HE was moved all over the field by the aggies, but he has lots of experience as a single high safety and was pretty good in coverage. He could be a surprise to make the roster as one of the last DBs b/c he has ST value and our S spot is thin and unexperienced with Hufanga possibly not ready, Moore coming off another injury, the guy from the Colts not being a full time starter, etc.

 

[deep9er]

Considering all the centers we passed on, it Looks like the team has a plan at center and knows what it's going to do. IF Mack is playing, fine. If he isn't, there is talk that Brunskill will be the center.

They got two UDFA Centers added to the mix. Not that i'm expecting one to be an immediate starter, but you never know with UDFA's looking ahead.

We had hoped to draft a good Center prospect for the now, but i'm ok starting off with Brendal and Brunskill. They don't necessaily need to be starting the entire season. There is still JC Tretter and there might be other cadidates as teams cut down.

 

[Dean_Youngblood]

Overall
Love the Jackson pick in rd 2. Can never have enough pass rushers and this kid will be the pass rush specialist that Ford was supposed to be. He's weak against the run, but that won't be his role for a while. Between Bosa, Jackson, Ebukam, and Hyder, it looks like we'll be OK on the outside.

Love the OL picks of Burford and Zakelj. Both LTs, both small conference but All-Conference there, both project inside to OG. Both blocked well on the move and had good 10 yard splits. The competiton at IOL is going to be interesting. Moore, Banks, Brunskill, and these 2 rookies. Surely we can make an improvement at RG...

The WR pick of Gray is a good one, but I think his inconsistent hands will frustrate fans and coaches. HE'll be able to get open deep, but it'll be 50/50 if he catches the ball. Think of Ted Ginn's early years--he didn't learn to catch the ball consistently until he was on his 2nd or 3rd team.

Womack will be the competition at NCB. The guy has had to fight and claw for everything he's got, having started off as a walk on, so we dont' have to worry about his work ethic or passion for the game. He and Lenoire and one other will be in the mix at NCB. The other CB we took Piter, is a H/W/S guy who we hope we can develop into something.

And of course we took an injured DT. At least we waited until day 3 to do it this time instead of doing in rd 1 like with Kinlaw. Apparently, this DT busted a knee in midseason (when he was projected as early as rd 3), so it's doubtful he'll be read for the season and will probably start the year on the PUP and then be shifted to IR. Not a bad pick.

And then there is the RB from LSU. I hated the pick. This was a round or 2 too early. It looks like a repeat of the reach pick at RB from last year with Sermon--which was another of the NIner FO's yearly "who? And isn't this a round too early?" pick. If he was the pick at the end of the 4th or early in the 5th, I woudln't care as much, b/c the lower pick is more worth the gamble that he'll round into shape and be better in teh NFL than he was in college.


UDFA
Looks like we got a pretty good UDFA haul. 2 centers. 1 was West, teh guy most of us wanted the Niners to draft in rd 5, and he fell to us as an undrafted. Then Poe was a late riser, and a very athletic player that started out at FB, but bulked up and did well on the OL. He projects to be better at OG and OC. Both ahve a shot at the roster, but West is easily the more refined player and Poe could be pegged for the PS b/c even though he's a very good athlete, he'll need some seasoning to play center in the NFL.

Another good signing was Leon O'Neal, the safety from A&M. HE was moved all over the field by the aggies, but he has lots of experience as a single high safety and was pretty good in coverage. He could be a surprise to make the roster as one of the last DBs b/c he has ST value and our S spot is thin and unexperienced with Hufanga possibly not ready, Moore coming off another injury, the guy from the Colts not being a full time starter, etc.

Kind of a straight down the fairway draft, given our positioning and needs. As you mentioned, the only head scratcher for me was Davis-Price. I don't know as much about the collegiate talent level as some of you do, but I couldn't help but wonder whether there weren't good options at safety, CB, or center/guard in the 3rd given our needs. Maybe I'm drinking the Shanahan kool-aid, but RB just seems like a position where we can "develop" our own talent.

 

[deep9er]

Kind of a straight down the fairway draft, given our positioning and needs. As you mentioned, the only head scratcher for me was Davis-Price. I don't know as much about the collegiate talent level as some of you do, but I couldn't help but wonder whether there weren't good options at safety, CB, or center/guard in the 3rd given our needs. Maybe I'm drinking the Shanahan kool-aid, but RB just seems like a position where we can "develop" our own talent.

I guess thats a good description, straight down the fairway. As i always believe, lean way over to BPA as opposed to 'forcing' Needs. It does seem that way after reading/watching more post draft stuff.

After watching more Youtube i'm not ranting as much on TDP. Still don't think it was good value Round 3, but don't feel it was as bad as first thought. His 40 split time was excellent and he supposedly can 'see' the hole and hit it fast. If.....IF......this pans out, yes that is an effective inside runner to share the work load. He could also be that 'end of game' closer that gets the 1st downs? He isn't a pass catcher but they say Shanahan doesn't throw much to RB's anyway.

BTW - any back can run through a hole untouched, but his highlights didn't show him breaking any tackles? Didn't see any mention of his ability to pass block?

One secondary reason i saw was Trey Lance and how his runs (or threat of run) could play off an effective inside runner. This makes sense as we do run more than most teams.

 

[Dean_Youngblood]

I guess thats a good description, straight down the fairway. As i always believe, lean way over to BPA as opposed to 'forcing' Needs. It does seem that way after reading/watching more post draft stuff.

After watching more Youtube i'm not ranting as much on TDP. Still don't think it was good value Round 3, but don't feel it was as bad as first thought. His 40 split time was excellent and he supposedly can 'see' the hole and hit it fast. If.....IF......this pans out, yes that is an effective inside runner to share the work load. He could also be that 'end of game' closer that gets the 1st downs? He isn't a pass catcher but they say Shanahan doesn't throw much to RB's anyway.

BTW - any back can run through a hole untouched, but his highlights didn't show him breaking any tackles? Didn't see any mention of his ability to pass block?

One secondary reason i saw was Trey Lance and how his runs (or threat of run) could play off an effective inside runner. This makes sense as we do run more than most teams.

Shortly after I posted my observations, I had a thought that maybe the team was demonstrating to Deebo that they are committed to him being a pure wide-out by using draft capital to pick up more RB help... maybe in an effort to get in his good graces, given what he had to endure last year? Now I'm getting sucked into the drama, lol!

 

[deep9er]

Shortly after I posted my observations, I had a thought that maybe the team was demonstrating to Deebo that they are committed to him being a pure wide-out by using draft capital to pick up more RB help... maybe in an effort to get in his good graces, given what he had to endure last year? Now I'm getting sucked into the drama, lol!

For me it was a given they'd add a RB and lessen Deebo's touches. I wouldn't want Deebo running 6-8 times a game anyway, and don't think this is an uncommon opinion. You'd think they communicated this to Deebo at the on-set of discussions? Even if we wanted to, Deebo can't add 6-8 runs a game over 19-21 games?!

I did think they'd draft a RB day 3, but a 'speed' guy who might get the far outside zone going. The wide zone run is hard to execute consistently (ala Mostert) but so effective. Some teams just don't have the personnel on their defense, to defend it.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Kind of a straight down the fairway draft, given our positioning and needs. As you mentioned, the only head scratcher for me was Davis-Price. I don't know as much about the collegiate talent level as some of you do, but I couldn't help but wonder whether there weren't good options at safety, CB, or center/guard in the 3rd given our needs. Maybe I'm drinking the Shanahan kool-aid, but RB just seems like a position where we can "develop" our own talent.

I read an interesting point on another board. Sermon and Moore last year have almost identical profiles to Price and Burford this year. They're similar in SO many ways that it's pretty clear that the FO has locked onto a specific metric or combination of metrics that equal a player with a specific profile for those 2 positions.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Larry Krueger and John Chapman watched some college film and got together to comment on the players we took. I found a few nuggets in there:

1. TDP “Probably his best trait, pass protection," added Chapman. "I had him graded as one of the top pass protectors in this draft." –The ability to pass protect is what usually keeps young RBs off the field. They were saying that the pass pro element may have TDP ahead of Sermon on the depth chart already.

2. Womack. It was way too early to draft him in rd 5. But, Krueger said, "From what I heard...the road scout who did the reports on him was banging the table for Womack." Sounds like a good way to get fired if you're wrong.

Mike Renner of PFF called our UDFA IOL Poe the best pulling OG in all of college football. At 6’1, 300, he ran a 4.89 40. For reference, at the combine Juice was 6’1 and 235 and ran a 4.77. So, yea Poe can probably play some FB and even TE. Poe’s physical stats compare quite nicely with those of longtime Pats/Bucs OG Shaq Mason.

 

[deep9er]

Larry Krueger and John Chapman watched some college film and got together to comment on the players we took. I found a few nuggets in there:

1. TDP “Probably his best trait, pass protection," added Chapman. "I had him graded as one of the top pass protectors in this draft." –The ability to pass protect is what usually keeps young RBs off the field. They were saying that the pass pro element may have TDP ahead of Sermon on the depth chart already.

2. Womack. It was way too early to draft him in rd 5. But, Krueger said, "From what I heard...the road scout who did the reports on him was banging the table for Womack." Sounds like a good way to get fired if you're wrong.

Mike Renner of PFF called our UDFA IOL Poe the best pulling OG in all of college football. At 6’1, 300, he ran a 4.89 40. For reference, at the combine Juice was 6’1 and 235 and ran a 4.77. So, yea Poe can probably play some FB and even TE. Poe’s physical stats compare quite nicely with those of longtime Pats/Bucs OG Shaq Mason.

1. TDP - Ok good, if true this makes the pick more sensible. Protecting Trey Lance is huge and having a good blocking RB is a big part of that. Again, not saying TDP isn't a good player but think a lot of people feel he could've been had a few rounds later. ie the complaints are his value, not his talent.

Anyway so i'm thinking about this value and find my ranting isn't even necessary?! If they passed on TDP and drafted Gray followed by Burford, woudn't they have drafted TDP in the 4th? So then i'd be ok with TDP's 4th round value but in the end, we drafted the same players.

 

[deep9er]

The draft grade for the 49ers isn't high nationwide, and its understandable. To start our first pick was at the end of round 2 so none of the big names are there. Next, the first three guys we drafted are high ceiling players, as opposed to college production guys. So in this case you might say we went with "measurables" as opposed to "game tape".

Drake Jackson HAS highlights but not over his 4 year college career.​

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TDP certainly doesn't have solid college career stats, having only 400 or so carries.​

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Danny Gray played in only 18 Division I games.​

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[deep9er]

Larry Krueger and John Chapman watched some college film and got together to comment on the players we took. I found a few nuggets in there:

1. TDP “Probably his best trait, pass protection," added Chapman. "I had him graded as one of the top pass protectors in this draft." –The ability to pass protect is what usually keeps young RBs off the field. They were saying that the pass pro element may have TDP ahead of Sermon on the depth chart already.

2. Womack. It was way too early to draft him in rd 5. But, Krueger said, "From what I heard...the road scout who did the reports on him was banging the table for Womack." Sounds like a good way to get fired if you're wrong.

Mike Renner of PFF called our UDFA IOL Poe the best pulling OG in all of college football. At 6’1, 300, he ran a 4.89 40. For reference, at the combine Juice was 6’1 and 235 and ran a 4.77. So, yea Poe can probably play some FB and even TE. Poe’s physical stats compare quite nicely with those of longtime Pats/Bucs OG Shaq Mason.

Just saw Lombardi on Youtube, saying TDP is a good pass protector. To start with he has a strong lower body that anchors well.

 

[deep9er]

Understandably, all the early hype is on Danny Gray. In rookie camp all they could do was run routes so the WR and CB are featured.

We know Danny Gray will showcase speed and stretch the D, but he needs to show he can catch the deep ball. Track it, high point it, and catch it consistantly. If he can't catch it, his deep threat is diminished.

This was the issue with Marquise Goodwin.