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2021 NBA regular season thread

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Rumor has it Harden's strip club game is stronger than his play on the court. Doesn't he have his jersey retired at a Houston jiggly room (shoutout to Al Bundy!)?
Theeeee Nudie Bar!!
 

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Interesting...as you also said it had nothing to do with his time in OKC.

Can you make up your mind where you stand here?
You have comprehension issues, must be a little bitch
 
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This doesn't make sense. If he was a terrible teammate to the point that the Thunder wanted him gone...how is that not on Harden?

It's not on Harden because he wasn't a terrible teammate in OKC. There's no proof or indication of that at all.
 

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It's not on Harden because he wasn't a terrible teammate in OKC. There's no proof or indication of that at all.

Well something wasn't right. You don't typically see important parts of a contender walk away over such a small amount of money.

Additionally, when being a bad teammate issues start, it usually doesn't get out right away with the first team a player is on.

If you remember, us Lakers fans were repeatedly told that it was "sour grapes" when we talked about the shit Dwight was doing in LA during his first stint. Then, he proceeded to do the same thing at every other stop and no one called it sour grapes anymore.

It could be the same thing with Harden.
 
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Well something wasn't right. You don't typically see important parts of a contender walk away over such a small amount of money.

Additionally, when being a bad teammate issues start, it usually doesn't get out right away with the first team a player is on.

If you remember, us Lakers fans were repeatedly told that it was "sour grapes" when we talked about the shit Dwight was doing in LA during his first stint. Then, he proceeded to do the same thing at every other stop and no one called it sour grapes anymore.

It could be the same thing with Harden.

That just wasn't the case for James Harden. While I don't agree with how he ended things in Houston, at no point was there ever indication that he was a "bad teammate"

Hell, he didn't even turn down the obvious low-ball offer OKC gave him in 2012. He requested more time to consider and was traded because of it.

From the top of my head, to date I can't think of a single player that has legitimately come out to say Harden was a bad team player.
 

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That just wasn't the case for James Harden. While I don't agree with how he ended things in Houston, at no point was there ever indication that he was a "bad teammate"

Hell, he didn't even turn down the obvious low-ball offer OKC gave him in 2012. He requested more time to consider and was traded because of it.

From the top of my head, to date I can't think of a single player that has legitimately come out to say Harden was a bad team player.

That isn’t totally true.

The rift with CP3 is an example of Harden being a bad teammate. CP3 is the ultimate competitor and leader. Harden is the better player, but he isn’t a leader.

CP3 tried to hold Harden accountable for things D’Antoni wouldn’t, and Harden didn’t respond well which ultimately led to the Russ trade and the beginning of the end in Houston.

An example of how a positive teammate relationship should work is LeBron and AD. They each hold each other to high standards and they respect one another enough to listen.
 
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That isn’t totally true.

The rift with CP3 is an example of Harden being a bad teammate. CP3 is the ultimate competitor and leader. Harden is the better player, but he isn’t a leader.

CP3 tried to hold Harden accountable for things D’Antoni wouldn’t, and Harden didn’t respond well which ultimately led to the Russ trade and the beginning of the end in Houston.

You may be right in this instance. I had forgotten about CP3

That being said, I don't think that was the case almost 9 years ago when Harden wasn't even a starter in this league yet.
 

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That just wasn't the case for James Harden. While I don't agree with how he ended things in Houston, at no point was there ever indication that he was a "bad teammate"

Hell, he didn't even turn down the obvious low-ball offer OKC gave him in 2012. He requested more time to consider and was traded because of it.

From the top of my head, to date I can't think of a single player that has legitimately come out to say Harden was a bad team player.

And? Again, those issues rarely get out with the team they start on. I'm just not going to assume that I know more about the Thunder than someone who actually follows them.

A lot of that stuff gets out locally before it ever gets out nationally. The crap Dwight was doing got to Lakers fans because local reporters who follow the team were starting to say "I'm hearing that..."
 

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Well something wasn't right. You don't typically see important parts of a contender walk away over such a small amount of money.

Additionally, when being a bad teammate issues start, it usually doesn't get out right away with the first team a player is on.

If you remember, us Lakers fans were repeatedly told that it was "sour grapes" when we talked about the shit Dwight was doing in LA during his first stint. Then, he proceeded to do the same thing at every other stop and no one called it sour grapes anymore.

It could be the same thing with Harden.
If such a bad teammate why were they willing to even offer as much as they did?
 

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If such a bad teammate why were they willing to even offer as much as they did?
You need to stick to what you know, or thoroughly read what people that do know say.
 

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And? Again, those issues rarely get out with the team they start on. I'm just not going to assume that I know more about the Thunder than someone who actually follows them.

A lot of that stuff gets out locally before it ever gets out nationally. The crap Dwight was doing got to Lakers fans because local reporters who follow the team were starting to say "I'm hearing that..."
No disagreement sometimes a local fan might have heard more than we have not being fans...but he's been all over the place in this discussion.

He's a bad teammate......maybe they should have kept him......it had nothing to do with his time in OKC

all over the place.
 

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No disagreement sometimes a local fan might have heard more than we have not being fans...but he's been all over the place in this discussion.

He's a bad teammate......maybe they should have kept him......it had nothing to do with his time in OKC

all over the place.
All I said was there were warning signs that he was not going to work out and would never be on the same page with what the thunder had in mind. I never said he was a bad teammate in OKC, just that it is not debateable that he turned into one.
 

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You need to stick to what you know, or thoroughly read what people that do know say.
I have thoroughly read what you've said and you are all over the place, and might not even know what you want to say.

You said he was a bad teammate
You then said maybe they'd have done things differently now
Then the ridiculously foolish comment you made that it wasn't even anything he did in OKC (that made OKC choose to move him) was it something he did in high school? didn't care for his senior quote?
 
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And? Again, those issues rarely get out with the team they start on. I'm just not going to assume that I know more about the Thunder than someone who actually follows them.

A lot of that stuff gets out locally before it ever gets out nationally. The crap Dwight was doing got to Lakers fans because local reporters who follow the team were starting to say "I'm hearing that..."

This who conversation started because thurderc was hating on Harden simply because he was a "former Thunder player". He claimed it was because he was a bad teammate amongst other things.

I'm simply saying that in the case of Harden vs OKC and the trade to Houston that followed, the Thunder were the antagonist in that situation.
 

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I have thoroughly read what you've said and you are all over the place, and might not even know what you want to say.

You said he was a bad teammate
You then said maybe they'd have done things differently now
Then the ridiculously foolish comment you made that it wasn't even anything he did in OKC (that made OKC choose to move him) was it something he did in high school? didn't care for his senior quote?
You are not capable of comprehension, have a nice life.
 

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All I said was there were warning signs that he was not going to work out and would never be on the same page with what the thunder had in mind. I never said he was a bad teammate in OKC, just that it is not debateable that he turned into one.
But you claimed they moved him because he was a bad teammate. Unless they had a certain DeLorean why would they move him because he was not a bad teammate but he would become one?
 

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This who conversation started because thurderc was hating on Harden simply because he was a "former Thunder player". He claimed it was because he was a bad teammate amongst other things.

I'm simply saying that in the case of Harden vs OKC and the trade to Houston that followed, the Thunder were the antagonist in that situation.
Lmao, the stuff I said about his time wirh the thunder just added to the discussion. If you can’t agree that based on the last 3 years alone that Hardsn is not someone you would want to trust a whole lot then good luck with that. He’s a piece of shit, has nothing to do with his time in OKC, nothing.
 
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