2020 Patriots News

[cheerupcharlie]

Sources: Pats' Michel recovering from foot surgery

Have we ever had anyone from the University of Georgia who hasn’t been hurt or missed significant time??

Malcolm Mitchell
Isaiah Wynn
Sony Michel
David Andrews

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

And Robert Edwards, too.

Seymour and Pass were durable, though.

And despite all the owies Sony’s still only missed 3 games.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

Forgot about Edwards

 

[BigKen]

Christian Fauria Believes Patriots Better Off Without Brady

Mike Masala

11 hours ago


It’s hard to imagine the New England Patriots without Tom Brady under center. With the exceptions of the Deflategate suspension and his ACL injury, those who follow the Foxboro-based football team have watched Brady lead the offense since early in 2001.

Now, all of that has changed, as the Patriots turn to Jarrett Stidham or Brian Hoyer to lead their team into the 2020 campaign.

Fans and pundits alike are left wondering just how the team will perform in their first year without their franchise quarterback.

ESPN’s Mike Reiss has mentioned that some close to the organization believe that the Patriots could be better without Brady in the picture. That statement is a strong one, but it’s one that seems to be gaining steam.

On the WEEI program “Ordway, Merloni, and Fauria,” former Patriots tight end Christian Fauria echoed the same sentiment.

“They’re better off without him,” Fauria said. “Can I tell you why? And it has nothing to do with Brady’s skill set. It’s not because he’s not good or he can’t throw it or he’s lost some speed on his fastball. It’s because where he was in his career, his age, what he wanted to achieve, and what the Patriots were trying to achieve were completely different. So it was never going to work out. They were never going to see eye to eye.

“This offense is not going to be able to move forward with Brady as the quarterback, not because he sucks. Those throwaways were important. It’s because he wasn’t willing to adapt. There’s the difference. He wasn’t willing to let N’Keal Harry grow.”

What both Reiss and Fauria are saying makes some sense.

At this point in Brady’s career, he’s not going to repeatedly go back to young, unproven wide receivers if they make a mistake. He’s going to force it to the guys who have performed for him when he needed them. In New England, that was Julian Edelman, Rob Gronkowski, and James White.

Stidham or Hoyer should be more willing to work with these growing players. N’Keal Harry, Jakobi Meyers, Gunner Olszewski, and others will get more and more opportunities with these quarterbacks than they would’ve received from Brady.

Whether that’s a good thing remains to be seen, but it can’t hurt to see what other weapons New England may develop.

 

[BigKen]

The Patriots announced their new veteran's numbers on Tuesday as the team wraps up their virtual offseason with an eye toward training camp at the end of next month.

Rookies remain numberless at this time, though in recent years the team has given them initial numbers starting at 50 and going upward for the first few weeks of training camp.

Here are where you'll find the newest vets on the roster:

• 2 - QB Brian Hoyer
• 10 - WR Damiere Byrd
• 13 - WR Marqise Lee
• 21 - S Adrian Phillips
• 22 - S Cody Davis
• 45 - FB Danny Vitale
• 52 - LB Brandon Copeland
• 94 - DT Beau Allen

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Pretty impressive workouts.
I know he is not the only one doing these things.
I remember Randy had a work out jumping out of 55 gallon drums. That has got to be tough.

Patriots’ Mohamed Sanu Catches Passes While Running Uphill In Impressive Video

 

[YankeeRebel]

The Patriots announced their new veteran's numbers on Tuesday as the team wraps up their virtual offseason with an eye toward training camp at the end of next month.

Rookies remain numberless at this time, though in recent years the team has given them initial numbers starting at 50 and going upward for the first few weeks of training camp.

Here are where you'll find the newest vets on the roster:

• 2 - QB Brian Hoyer
• 10 - WR Damiere Byrd
• 13 - WR Marqise Lee
• 21 - S Adrian Phillips
• 22 - S Cody Davis
• 45 - FB Danny Vitale
• 52 - LB Brandon Copeland
• 94 - DT Beau Allen

Byrd is an interesting prospect to me more so than Lee I am going to keep a close eye on him.

 

[BigKen]

I read this and found it very interesting. If you don't want to read, it's basically about five young Patriot players who most likely will be starting in 2020 and are a financial bargain.

Ranking Patriots' five best 2020 salary cap bargains: J.C. Jackson provides incredible value

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Considering his injury history I think a home town discount was in order. This is the year that Damien Harris breaks through and becomes the next (insert great Pats Utility player here). Rex will be there to keep Damien fresh.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Considering his injury history I think a home town discount was in order. This is the year that Damien Harris breaks through and becomes the next (insert great Pats Utility player here). Rex will be there to keep Damien fresh.

Next Kevin Faulk?

 

[BigKen]

This is James White's final year of his rookie contract. Think he heads to TB next year??

 

[Southieinnc]

This is James White's final year of his rookie contract. Think he heads to TB next year??

To piss in the sand maybe.....

 

[BigKen]

The sports media is finally starting to turn a corner in Boston. There was a period of mourning when Brady left and there was shock when Cam Newton was signed. Then there was some resignation after Cam's signing was finally accepted. Needless to say, it's been tough watching any sports media on the tube until today.

Someone asked question and it stopped Zolack and Bertrand in their tracks. Here it is, "If the Patriots had offered Tom Brady 2 years and $60M would he have signed with the Patriots? If he did, would the patriots have cut all of their wide receivers that Brady said couldn't get separation? From thastpoint on the lines were stacked and everyone had an opinion. A lot of people don't think that Brady would have come back even if the Patriots had made that big an offer. Most people felt that he wasn't happy with his WRs last year and by signing him, there was no way that the patriots could have signed any WRs that would be any better.

It continued into Felger and Mazz this afternoon and there appears to be a growing segment that was not happy with Brady saying that he froze out WRs last year, even when they were open.

That discussion got more than a few media types outside of Boston calling the Boston media and a whole new conversation has now taken over. Is Cam Newton going to be better with the Patriots offense than Tom Brady would have been? After all, Cam is 12 years younger, and 12 times as fast a runner. He's 12 times more likely to just take off and run with the ball than Brady. McDaniels is 12 times more likely to put a few QB draws and QB Options in the offense now that both Newton and Stidham can run. The Patriots QBs are 12 times less likely to just throw the ball away and 12 times more likely to throw the ball while running.Finally, these two QBs are 12 times more likely not to just drop down if the pocket collapses.

This all started to come out with Tom Curran on NBC Sports Early Edition tonight. So now there's a group of media who believe that the Patriots' offense just might be improved regardless whether cam or Jarrett is the QB when the season starts. When there is literally nothing factual to write about, it is incredible what these guys can do to perk up fan interest.

Discussion anyone??

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

$60M guaranteed? Yeah, he’d’ve taken that. $60M with the same amount guaranteed in the offer they made him last summer? No.

Would they cut all the WR’s? No that’s asinine...where would they get the money to completely revamp the WR corps after giving $30M to Brady and taking cap hits to get rid of Edelman and Harry?

Also Brady never said he froze WR’s out last year (assuming you’re referencing the Stern interview...if you’ve got another direct quote to that effect please substantiate)

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

I suspect there will be growing pains with the offense and it will get better as the year goes on regardless of which QB it is, but I doubt it will be better than last year especially without any OTA’s and Cam signing so late. Might be good enough to make some noise in the playoffs if the other two phases can hold the fort while the O figures things out for a couple months, though.

 

[nefansince75]

The sports media is finally starting to turn a corner in Boston. There was a period of mourning when Brady left and there was shock when Cam Newton was signed. Then there was some resignation after Cam's signing was finally accepted. Needless to say, it's been tough watching any sports media on the tube until today.

Someone asked question and it stopped Zolack and Bertrand in their tracks. Here it is, "If the Patriots had offered Tom Brady 2 years and $60M would he have signed with the Patriots? If he did, would the patriots have cut all of their wide receivers that Brady said couldn't get separation? From thastpoint on the lines were stacked and everyone had an opinion. A lot of people don't think that Brady would have come back even if the Patriots had made that big an offer. Most people felt that he wasn't happy with his WRs last year and by signing him, there was no way that the patriots could have signed any WRs that would be any better.

It continued into Felger and Mazz this afternoon and there appears to be a growing segment that was not happy with Brady saying that he froze out WRs last year, even when they were open.

That discussion got more than a few media types outside of Boston calling the Boston media and a whole new conversation has now taken over. Is Cam Newton going to be better with the Patriots offense than Tom Brady would have been? After all, Cam is 12 years younger, and 12 times as fast a runner. He's 12 times more likely to just take off and run with the ball than Brady. McDaniels is 12 times more likely to put a few QB draws and QB Options in the offense now that both Newton and Stidham can run. The Patriots QBs are 12 times less likely to just throw the ball away and 12 times more likely to throw the ball while running.Finally, these two QBs are 12 times more likely not to just drop down if the pocket collapses.

This all started to come out with Tom Curran on NBC Sports Early Edition tonight. So now there's a group of media who believe that the Patriots' offense just might be improved regardless whether cam or Jarrett is the QB when the season starts. When there is literally nothing factual to write about, it is incredible what these guys can do to perk up fan interest.

Discussion anyone??

I think this discussion should continue until Brady comes back... Oh wait, It ain't happening.

It's a complete waste of time which is what the media is there to do... Waste time for listeners wasting time. I won't deny to many it's entertaining, but it's just about creating a "dancing bear" conversation.

Brady never needed the money . He left because he wanted to leave. Who's at fault? It just doesn't god damn matter. Any bad blood or resentment between anyone has been happening since one man believed he was better than the next (hint: second man in existence).

 

[Yankee Traveler]

The sports media is finally starting to turn a corner in Boston. There was a period of mourning when Brady left and there was shock when Cam Newton was signed. Then there was some resignation after Cam's signing was finally accepted. Needless to say, it's been tough watching any sports media on the tube until today.

Someone asked question and it stopped Zolack and Bertrand in their tracks. Here it is, "If the Patriots had offered Tom Brady 2 years and $60M would he have signed with the Patriots? If he did, would the patriots have cut all of their wide receivers that Brady said couldn't get separation? From thastpoint on the lines were stacked and everyone had an opinion. A lot of people don't think that Brady would have come back even if the Patriots had made that big an offer. Most people felt that he wasn't happy with his WRs last year and by signing him, there was no way that the patriots could have signed any WRs that would be any better.

It continued into Felger and Mazz this afternoon and there appears to be a growing segment that was not happy with Brady saying that he froze out WRs last year, even when they were open.

That discussion got more than a few media types outside of Boston calling the Boston media and a whole new conversation has now taken over. Is Cam Newton going to be better with the Patriots offense than Tom Brady would have been? After all, Cam is 12 years younger, and 12 times as fast a runner. He's 12 times more likely to just take off and run with the ball than Brady. McDaniels is 12 times more likely to put a few QB draws and QB Options in the offense now that both Newton and Stidham can run. The Patriots QBs are 12 times less likely to just throw the ball away and 12 times more likely to throw the ball while running.Finally, these two QBs are 12 times more likely not to just drop down if the pocket collapses.

This all started to come out with Tom Curran on NBC Sports Early Edition tonight. So now there's a group of media who believe that the Patriots' offense just might be improved regardless whether cam or Jarrett is the QB when the season starts. When there is literally nothing factual to write about, it is incredible what these guys can do to perk up fan interest.

Discussion anyone??

A talking head rumor had it back in March that the Patriots made an offer before free agency started and Brady never even looked at it.
Another talking head rumor was that Brady made up his mind in 2018 that he was gone. Funny thing about that one was Gronk quit for 2019.
Sold his house, Alex moved, not tag clause in the 1 year extension contract. He was gone.
His play sucked last year because he was gone or his play sucked last year and he was gone.
Either way... G. O. N. E.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

$60M guaranteed? Yeah, he’d’ve taken that. $60M with the same amount guaranteed in the offer they made him last summer? No.

Would they cut all the WR’s? No that’s asinine...where would they get the money to completely revamp the WR corps after giving $30M to Brady and taking cap hits to get rid of Edelman and Harry?

Also Brady never said he froze WR’s out last year (assuming you’re referencing the Stern interview...if you’ve got another direct quote to that effect please substantiate)

Brady may have said he did not freeze out receivers but he sure left a lot of play on the field by not throwing to an open receiver and instead forcing it to a double/triple covered Edelman or throwing it away and then saying he didn't have trust in his receivers.

 

[YankeeRebel]

IMO The Brady era is over so what ever offers were or were not made are all moot at this. Fuck the cheatin bastard.