2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

[bksballer89]

 

[raptorlife4]

Memphis in 4

JV revenge

 

[DJ Fieri]

for the seniors in here....

Like @ChiefsLakers67, @trojanfan12, @The Oldtimer, etc....

 

[DJ Fieri]

 

[msgkings322]

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One of the many reasons Larry Brown is GOAT coach (basketball, not NBA)

 

[wildturkey]

I don't know why he bothered to lie in the doc. Everyone knows damn well he kept Zeke off the Dream Team and its been known since 92. Plus, who cares. Fuck Zeke. He's always been a creepy douche anyway.

 

[tlance]

I don't know why he bothered to lie in the doc. Everyone knows damn well he kept Zeke off the Dream Team and its been known since 92. Plus, who cares. Fuck Zeke. He's always been a creepy douche anyway.

Because that is who he is.

And no matter what he says or does, people will still love him unconditionally.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I don't know why he bothered to lie in the doc. Everyone knows damn well he kept Zeke off the Dream Team and its been known since 92. Plus, who cares. Fuck Zeke. He's always been a creepy douche anyway.

Again I point to the Hof speeches and ask who is the douche

 

[bksballer89]

Again I point to the Hof speeches and ask who is the douche

Yea i wasn't around much during their playing years to say who was the biggest douche during career but MJ clearly takes the crown since both been retired.....and it isn't even close

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Yea i wasn't around much during their playing years to say who was the biggest douche during career but MJ clearly takes the crown since both been retired.....and it isn't even close

Isiah clearly has issues with women and has made some odd moves like killing the CBA but he's at least on face a more personable guy.

His thing with MJ was all about Illinois and the streets of Chicago for him

 

[shopson67]

Honestly, I agree with those who say the cloth masks don't help all that much.....but I'm not among the anti mask loons. If it makes people happy that someone wear one for 15-30 minutes then I don't get why so many think they need to "stick it to the man" by not wearing one.

It limits how far your spit/sneeze/vapor can spray, nothing more. It helps keep you from infecting others, and is only really needed when within close range of others. Since the experts have downplayed spread via hard surfaces and focused on bodily contact and water droplets, wearing a mask makes sense. If only people realized when it was necessary, it wouldn't be such a big issue. For example, if you are driving by yourself, take the damn thing off lol.

 

[shopson67]

Not a fan of a late July start

I'm basically at the point that any team sports this summer will be a pleasant surprise and I'm not expecting any at all.

 

[dtgold88]

Look mfer, I never said he was speaking for anyone. I simply typed out what I heard him say with my own 2 ears. Go pound sand and quit telling me what I did or didn’t hear. I promise you I know the entire story of the labor history in MLB, probably much better than you.

Why I said if you heard correctly he was speaking as one and made a comment contrary to what the rest of the union thinks.

 

[dtgold88]

that’s ok, he can reply again after he pounds an adequate amount of sand.

staying away from the beaches still, so not gonna happen.

 

[dtgold88]

It limits how far your spit/sneeze/vapor can spray, nothing more. It helps keep you from infecting others, and is only really needed when within close range of others. Since the experts have downplayed spread via hard surfaces and focused on bodily contact and water droplets, wearing a mask makes sense. If only people realized when it was necessary, it wouldn't be such a big issue. For example, if you are driving by yourself, take the damn thing off lol.

agreed. Saw this recently. Long but a good read. Fair and balanced with no hyperbolic agenda.....



This was posted by Dr. James Stein, cardiologist based at U-Wisconsin at Madison. Well-informed update on how we can make smart and reasonable Covid-related choices going forward. I found it helpful.

COVID-19 update as we start to leave our cocoons. The purpose of this post is to provide a perspective on the intense but expected anxiety so many people are experiencing as they prepare to leave the shelter of their homes. My opinions are not those of my employers and are not meant to invalidate anyone else’s – they simply are my perspective on managing risk.

Key point #1: The COVID-19 we are facing now is the same disease it was 2 months ago. The “shelter at home” orders were the right step from a public health standpoint to make sure we flattened the curve and didn’t overrun the health care system which would have led to excess preventable deaths. It also bought us time to learn about the disease’s dynamics, preventive measures, and best treatment strategies – and we did.

For hospitalized patients, we have learned to avoid early intubation, to use prone ventilation, and that remdesivir probably reduces time to recovery. We have learned how to best use and preserve PPE. We also know that several therapies suggested early on probably don’t do much and may even cause harm (ie, azithromycin, chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir). But all of our social distancing did not change the disease.

Take home: We flattened the curve and with it our economy and psyches, but the disease itself is still here.

Key point #2: COVID-19 is more deadly than seasonal influenza (about 5-10x so), but not nearly as deadly as Ebola, Rabies, or Marburg Hemorrhagic Fever where 25-90% of people who get infected die. COVID-19’s case fatality rate is about 0.8-1.5% overall, but much higher if you are 60-69 years old (3-4%), 70-79 years old (7-9%), and especially so if you are over 80 years old (CFR 13-17%). It is much lower if you are under 50 years old (<0.6%). The infection fatality rate is about half of these numbers.

Take home: COVID-19 is dangerous, but the vast majority of people who get it, survive it. About 15% of people get very ill and could stay ill for a long time. We are going to be dealing with it for a long time.

Key point #3: SARS-CoV-2 is very contagious, but not as contagious as Measles, Mumps, or even certain strains of pandemic Influenza. It is spread by respiratory droplets and aerosols, not food and incidental contact. Take home: social distancing, not touching our faces, and good hand hygiene are the key weapons to stop the spread. Masks could make a difference, too, especially in public places where people congregate. Incidental contact is not really an issue, nor is food.

What does this all mean as we return to work and public life? COVID-19 is not going away anytime soon. It may not go away for a year or two and may not be eradicated for many years, so we have to learn to live with it and do what we can to mitigate (reduce) risk. That means being willing to accept *some* level of risk to live our lives as we desire. I can’t decide that level of risk for you – only you can make that decision. There are few certainties in pandemic risk management other than that fact that some people will die, some people in low risk groups will die, and some people in high risk groups will survive. It’s about probability.

Here is some guidance – my point of view, not judging yours:

1. People over 60 years old are at higher risk of severe disease – people over 70 years old, even more so. They should be willing to tolerate less risk than people under 50 years old and should be extra careful. Some chronic diseases like heart disease and COPD increase risk, but it is not clear if other diseases like obesity, asthma, immune disorders, etc. increase risk appreciably. It looks like asthma and inflammatory bowel disease might not be as high risk as we thought, but we are not sure - their risks might be too small to pick up, or they might be associated with things that put them at higher risk.

People over 60-70 years old probably should continue to be very vigilant about limiting exposures if they can. However, not seeing family – especially children and grandchildren – can take a serious emotional toll, so I encourage people to be creative and flexible. For example, in-person visits are not crazy – consider one, especially if you have been isolated and have no symptoms. They are especially safe in the early days after restrictions are lifted in places like Madison or parts of major cities where there is very little community transmission. Families can decide how much mingling they are comfortable with - if they want to hug and eat together, distance together with masks, or just stay apart and continue using video-conferencing and the telephone to stay in contact. If you choose to intermingle, remember to practice good hand hygiene, don’t share plates/forks/spoons/cups, don’t share towels, and don’t sleep together.

2. Social distancing, not touching your face, and washing/sanitizing your hands are the key prevention interventions. They are vastly more important than anything else you do. Wearing a fabric mask is a good idea in crowded public place like a grocery store or public transportation, but you absolutely must distance, practice good hand hygiene, and don’t touch your face. Wearing gloves is not helpful (the virus does not get in through the skin) and may increase your risk because you likely won’t washing or sanitize your hands when they are on, you will drop things, and touch your face.

3. Be a good citizen. If you think you might be sick, stay home. If you are going to cough or sneeze, turn away from people, block it, and sanitize your hands immediately after.

4. Use common sense. Dial down the anxiety. If you are out taking a walk and someone walks past you, that brief (near) contact is so low risk that it doesn’t make sense to get scared. Smile at them as they approach, turn your head away as they pass, move on. The smile will be more therapeutic than the passing is dangerous. Similarly, if someone bumps into you at the grocery store or reaches past you for a loaf of bread, don’t stress - it is a very low risk encounter- as long as they didn’t cough in your face (one reason we wear cloth masks in public!).

5. Use common sense, part II. Dial down the obsessiveness. There really is no reason to go crazy sanitizing items that come into your house from outside, like groceries and packages. For it to be a risk, the delivery person would need to be infectious, cough or sneeze some droplets on your package, you touch the droplet, then touch your face, and then it invades your respiratory epithelium. There would need to be enough viral load and the virions would need to survive long enough for you to get infected. It could happen, but it’s pretty unlikely.

If you want to have a staging station for 1-2 days before you put things away, sure, no problem. You also can simply wipe things off before they come in to your house - that is fine is fine too. For an isolated family, it makes no sense to obsessively wipe down every surface every day (or several times a day). Door knobs, toilet handles, commonly trafficked light switches could get a wipe off each day, but it takes a lot of time and emotional energy to do all those things and they have marginal benefits.

We don’t need to create a sterile operating room-like living space. Compared to keeping your hands out of your mouth, good hand hygiene, and cleaning food before serving it, these behaviors might be more maladaptive than protective.

6. There are few absolutes, so please get comfortable accepting some calculated risks, otherwise you might be isolating yourself for a really, really long time. Figure out how you can be in public and interact with people without fear.

We are social creatures. We need each other. We will survive with and because of each other. Social distancing just means that we connect differently. Being afraid makes us contract and shut each other out. I hope we can fill that space created by fear and contraction with meaningful connections and learn to be less afraid of each of other.

 

[dtgold88]

Great article in USA Today recently about the documentary. Can't recall author, but came out shortly after last episode.

Basically about how tough it must be to be MJ in a sense living your life as he does. Not so much the fame, but holding grudges so long, needing to keep track of them all, etc.

 

[dtgold88]

yeah the comments of that one pitcher didn’t do the players any good, talking about how he had to get his. I heard Matt Joyce in yesterday and he made a lot of sense. He said hey if you guys want to talk about sharing revenue the next 10 years let’s talk about it but you haven’t before now.

Original comment to which I replied. Once again, no, Matt Joyce did not make a lot of sense. Not even close. If you think he made a lot of sense (or any sense) you do not know more about the CBA, labor struggles, etc, than pretty much anyone who follows this.

But I'll look for sand to pound if it makes you feel better. Might have some in our old swing set.

 

[Wamu]

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Name the Hall of Famer that LeBron played with on that sorry ass '07 Cavs squad he dragged to the Finals. And coaches- HOFer Larry Brown for Philly. Mike Brown for the Cavs.

'01 76ers > '07 Cavs

 

[flyerhawk]

I support this.

 

[msgkings322]

It limits how far your spit/sneeze/vapor can spray, nothing more. It helps keep you from infecting others, and is only really needed when within close range of others. Since the experts have downplayed spread via hard surfaces and focused on bodily contact and water droplets, wearing a mask makes sense. If only people realized when it was necessary, it wouldn't be such a big issue. For example, if you are driving by yourself, take the damn thing off lol.

You don't even need to wear one walking around outside, as long as you keep your distance from others.