2018 Roster Expectations

[SFGRTB]

With the Hundley deal, the Giants have about 9.2 million left to spend and stay under the luxury tax threshold.

I have around $16M

 

[calsnowskier]

I have around $16M

Don’t brag. It’s unbecoming...

 

[LHG]

I have around $16M

Pulled it from this website.

I just found this website this evening for contract information and found the layout to be interesting - San Francisco Giants Team Information

 

[LHG]

First Jake Peavy, now this - Tim Lincecum Planning Showcase For MLB Teams

 

[calsnowskier]

Interesting...

All details not in yet, but Arroyo and Span to the Rays for Longoria.

Why???

 

[The Q]

Interesting...

All details not in yet, but Arroyo and Span to the Rays for Longoria.

Why???

Because TB basically donated him to you?

 

[calsnowskier]

Woods and Krook also heading to TB

 

[calsnowskier]

Because TB basically donated him to you?

I don’t hate the cost too much (I REALLY like Arroyo) I just don’t see the point of Longoria.

 

[calsnowskier]

Does Sandoval stay on the 25, or is he kicked to the curb?

 

[The Q]

I don’t hate the cost too much (I REALLY like Arroyo) I just don’t see the point of Longoria.

See I'm not an Arroyo fan at all.

And you saved money sending span. And didn't send Ramos.

Arroyo is a bit of a tweener. And his BABIP spike was a huge factor in his production spike who doesn't take a lot of walks.

I have to read up more on the other 2 arms.

 

[calsnowskier]

See I'm not an Arroyo fan at all.

And you saved money sending span. And didn't send Ramos.

Arroyo is a bit of a tweener. And his BABIP spike was a huge factor in his production spike who doesn't take a lot of walks.

I have to read up more on the other 2 arms.

Krook is a HUGE lottery ticket. He has all the tools in the world, but has major control issues. On pure stuff, he might have had the highest ceiling of anyone in our system.

Woods is a guy who has been gaining some steam the last year or so, but I am not losing any sleep in losing him.

 

[calsnowskier]

See I'm not an Arroyo fan at all.

And you saved money sending span. And didn't send Ramos.

Arroyo is a bit of a tweener. And his BABIP spike was a huge factor in his production spike who doesn't take a lot of walks.

I have to read up more on the other 2 arms.

My perspective of the trade is a bit skewed. I am a proponent of a tear-down rebuild. I just don’t think the org has enough ammunition to make a realistic push in the next year or two. So why buy an aging vet who will be an albatross by the time we might be a true contender again?

 

[The Q]

My perspective of the trade is a bit skewed. I am a proponent of a tear-down rebuild. I just don’t think the org has enough ammunition to make a realistic push in the next year or two. So why buy an aging vet who will be an albatross by the time we might be a true contender again?

I would agree with you in a vacuum.

They're running the risk of hitting that Phillies level around 2012. Maybe they already are.

But they too made the mistake of not giving it up.

 

[calsnowskier]

I would agree with you in a vacuum.

They're running the risk of hitting that Phillies level around 2012. Maybe they already are.

But they too made the mistake of not giving it up.

Exactly. Why continue to accumulate rotting assets while purging your farm (as weak as it isn’t to begin with)?

In a vacuum, it is a good trade. But given the context of where the Giants are, it doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[The Q]

Exactly. Why continue to accumulate rotting assets while purging your farm (as weak as it isn’t to begin with)?

In a vacuum, it is a good trade. But given the context of where the Giants are, it doesn’t make sense to me.

I think we're basically in the same boat.

We'll see how they do it, but frankly after their run earlier this decade i just don't doubt them. they were never close to the most talented them ever during that time, and it didn't matter then either.

 

[calsnowskier]

I think we're basically in the same boat.

We'll see how they do it, but frankly after their run earlier this decade i just don't doubt them. they were never close to the most talented them ever during that time, and it didn't matter then either.

But in 10 and 12, they had EPIC pitching, both starting and relief. And the offensive club in 10 that played in the playoffs was not the same team that put up anemic numbers in the regular season.

This team has the potential for a solid rotation, and the bully probably isn’t a solid bad as we all think, but the OF is scary bad. The infield defense should be right up there with Anaheim as the best in the game, though. That will be fun to see.

 

[The Q]

But in 10 and 12, they had EPIC pitching, both starting and relief. And the offensive club in 10 that played in the playoffs was not the same team that put up anemic numbers in the regular season.

This team has the potential for a solid rotation, and the bully probably isn’t a solid bad as we all think, but the OF is scary bad. The infield defense should be right up there with Anaheim as the best in the game, though. That will be fun to see.

You had guys like Edgar Renteria, Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell come back from the dead.

I was calling CDC to make sure it wasn't the zombie apocalypse. lol

 

[calsnowskier]

Updated for the Longoria trade...

Bumgarner
Cueto
Samardzija
Stratton
Gregorio

Melancon
Dyson
Smith
Law
Blach
Fernandez
Strickland
Gearin

Posey
Hundley

Belt
Panik
Crawford
Longoria
Sandoval
Tomlinson

Duggar
Pence
Parker
Williamson

I think there still needs to be some work done on the OF. Slater deserves a spot, and I think that one of, if not both of McParker will be traded/booted. Gorkys also may currently have squatters rights (we need 2 CFers on the roster anyway, and Parker doesn’t cut it)

 

[LHG]

Interesting...

All details not in yet, but Arroyo and Span to the Rays for Longoria.

Why???

Woods and Krook also heading to TB

Does Sandoval stay on the 25, or is he kicked to the curb?

Well, so much for another of our prospects. Hope he does well with Tampa. I also hope Longoria bounces back offensively. His on base is rather scary. If the power isn't there, he's not much of an upgrade over Sandoval.

And yes, what happens to Sandoval? He's not needed any longer, unless Bochy gets his wish and Sandoval moves to 1st and Belt is moved to another team.

 

[calsnowskier]

Well, so much for another of our prospects. Hope he does well with Tampa. I also hope Longoria bounces back offensively. His on base is rather scary. If the power isn't there, he's not much of an upgrade over Sandoval.

And yes, what happens to Sandoval? He's not needed any longer, unless Bochy gets his wish and Sandoval moves to 1st and Belt is moved to another team.

No way the tear down happens now with Longoria on board. Trading Belt right now makes no sense. His stock has never been lower than it is right now.