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trojanfan12

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Uh, no . Dude's been talking shit on Twitter and before that in the media for years. Ask Rosie ODonnell. Or W.

He did that as a private citizen. When he actually started his campaign, he was openly mocked and laughed at by the media and told he had no chance of winning.

Hillary has been personally attacking him since he lost while also blaming everyone else for her losing.
 

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lol @this.

Dems would never do such a thing.

Oh wait...there's Hillary calling people who disagree with her...deplorables. Or how about people like Maxine Waters calling for Dems and libs to confront and attack Trump supporters and staffers and to keep them from being able to eat in restaurants or shop in public places.

Yep, strictly a Republican thing. :rolleyes2:
And that's why I don't like politicians in general but as I'm sure you know I was referring to the Republican on here who started the political discussion, The Q.
 

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He did that as a private citizen. When he actually started his campaign, he was openly mocked and laughed at by the media and told he had no chance of winning.

Hillary has been personally attacking him since he lost while also blaming everyone else for her losing.
Ok my bad, Trump is a gentle decent man under attack from filthy Democrats. You convinced me.
 

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And that's why I don't like politicians in general but as I'm sure you know I was referring to the Republican on here who started the political discussion, The Q.

I didn’t start it.

The trump derangement around here did.
 

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Ok my bad, Trump is a gentle decent man under attack from filthy Democrats. You convinced me.

If you're not a republican or a supporter of trump then talking politics anywhere on SportsHoopla is a waste
 

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Why should he be different than Obama, Clinton, or Bush?
Because (even though I know it's unrealistic) we should want a leader who is better than that. We should only want the best representing us as a Nation.
 

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And that's why I don't like politicians in general but as I'm sure you know I was referring to the Republican on here who started the political discussion, The Q.

But in true Democrat/liberal style...you said "Republicans".
 

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Because (even though I know it's unrealistic) we should want a leader who is better than that. We should only want the best representing us as a Nation.
Just because Hillary sucked doesn't mean Trump doesn't. He does. Bigly.
 

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Because (even though I know it's unrealistic) we should want a leader who is better than that. We should only want the best representing us as a Nation.

You know what I want?

I want a President who actually gets things done.

Would I prefer if he was a "nice guy" and polite to everyone while he did it? Sure. But that doesn't seem to work in the real world.

From everything I've read and heard about Jimmy Carter, he was as nice as they come. His Presidency was largely a dumpster fire.

If you haven't noticed, the world isn't a particularly "nice place" and there are a lot of assholes running other countries. Sometimes, to get things done and do what's best for the country...the President has to "out-asshole" them. lol
 

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You know what I want?

I want a President who actually gets things done.

Would I prefer if he was a "nice guy" and polite to everyone while he did it? Sure. But that doesn't seem to work in the real world.

From everything I've read and heard about Jimmy Carter, he was as nice as they come. His Presidency was largely a dumpster fire.

If you haven't noticed, the world isn't a particularly "nice place" and there are a lot of assholes running other countries. Sometimes, to get things done and do what's best for the country...the President has to "out-asshole" them. lol
Hillary seems capable of out-assholing anybody
 

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I didn't vote. Sat that election out.

All the options sucked.

lol

That's why I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Seemed like trying to decide what kind of bread I wanted my shit sandwich on.

I've been pleasantly surprised by Trump's accomplishments, but not that surprised that he's been kind of an asshole about how he gets it done.

Had Hillary won, I would have hoped to have been pleasantly surprised by what she accomplished as well.
 

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Just because Hillary sucked doesn't mean Trump doesn't. He does. Bigly.
All jokes aside with me, Mecca, and LAD.....The big thing that bothers me about Trump is the Stormy incident and denying he knew about the payoff.

Marriage isn't for everybody but when the Stormy affair came out.....it was horrible for Melania and the Republicans on here in the PF were like, "So what?"

But. If it were Obama? The outcry would have been huuuuuge.

Hypocrisy in politics is really what turns me off from even wanting to discuss it.
 

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From everything I've read and heard about Jimmy Carter, he was as nice as they come. His Presidency was largely a dumpster fire.

Carter was a victim of the times. He actually did a bunch of good things, including appointing Paul Volcker to run the Fed which was huge.

But he was handed a stinker of an economy and a C-130 caught on fire and that doomed his Presidency.
 

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Ok my bad, Trump is a gentle decent man under attack from filthy Democrats. You convinced me.

I'll wait while you find the post where I said that or said that I like what he says on twitter, etc.
 
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