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perhaps, but Dallas fans took a lot of grief last year with the Elliot pick at 4

Not because he wasn't worthy of an early pick, it was more about the assumption that any quality RB could produce very well behind that line and the pick might have been better utilized elsewhere (defense, QB). Of course, they hit pretty well on QB later, lol.
 

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perhaps, but Dallas fans took a lot of grief last year with the Elliot pick at 4
Curious, what do you think of the Jaylon Smith pick now? I would think that you have to feel, with how close the Cowboys were, that an extra guy who could have produced this year would have been big.
 

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I tought Jaylon was worth the pick at the time; he's just so talented that you have to hope he can fully recover. A year later, some decent news (the nerve is regenerating), but his ability to get on the field is still very much a question.
 

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I tought Jaylon was worth the pick at the time; he's just so talented that you have to hope he can fully recover. A year later, some decent news (the nerve is regenerating), but his ability to get on the field is still very much a question.


Who was the UCLA kid that came in with huge injury concerns last season?

Did he play?
 

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Literally the first thing you see when you go to CBSsports NFL draft site is Rang talking about Cook over Fournette and they've been talking him up for weeks. SI also has him going before Fournette. Both are almost top 10 locks at this point.

Kamara, McCaffrey and Samuel are the wild cards in the draft imo. I would say Mixon is the super wild card.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks took him late, like in the 5th or later.
 

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I tought Jaylon was worth the pick at the time; he's just so talented that you have to hope he can fully recover. A year later, some decent news (the nerve is regenerating), but his ability to get on the field is still very much a question.
I just think in hindsight, when you look at how close the Cowboys were to at least hosting the NFCCG, you have to wonder if things would have been different if they had used that pick to help 2016.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks took him late, like in the 5th or later.
I could see him going anywhere from rd3 to undrafted.

I've seen people mention that he fits the Chiefs profile if he has been reformed but at some point you can on too much baggage. Seattle seems like a possible spot. Lots of contenders with good locker rooms might consider him but not before the top 5 RBs are off the board.
 

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Myles Jack (Jaguars, 36th overall) played all 16, but not as a starter. 18 tackles, 1/2 sack.
 

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I was reading today that Wisonsins Corey Clement is impressing scouts more than anyone

Mostly how he picks up blitzes in these practices, which is a HUGE area these teams look at with young guys

Jordan Howard is the comp he is drawing
 

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I just think in hindsight, when you look at how close the Cowboys were to at least hosting the NFCCG, you have to wonder if things would have been different if they had used that pick to help 2016.

Sure, but that was also before McClain got suspended again.
 

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Myles Jack (Jaguars, 36th overall) played all 16, but not as a starter. 18 tackles, 1/2 sack.


Yuk

Not a good indicator of taking a flier on a guy with health issues
 

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I feel like we've come full circle a bit with running backs.

People used to be worried about the shelf life of a running back but it seems like the shelf life of most players is so slim right now that people are just drafting talent again.
 

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I could see him going anywhere from rd3 to undrafted.

I've seen people mention that he fits the Chiefs profile if he has been reformed but at some point you can on too much baggage. Seattle seems like a possible spot. Lots of contenders with good locker rooms might consider him but not before the top 5 RBs are off the board.
The juice would have to be worth the squeeze. I'm sure that anyone interested in him will grill him pretty hard to find out where his head is at.

The hawks have too many needs to take him any running back in the 3rd or earlier, but there becomes a point where value is most important.
 

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Curious, what do you think of the Jaylon Smith pick now? I would think that you have to feel, with how close the Cowboys were, that an extra guy who could have produced this year would have been big.
I was down with the Jaylon Smith pick then and now. This guy is an awesome football player, and from what I read, an awesome person too. Look forward to him and Lee playing together. Having said that...I'm not sure Smith beats the packers and thus can't say another selection in round 2 woulda. I think Dallas defense played with great effort all season, but an edge rusher and better talent in the d-backfield was what was missing to me.

Future looks bright.
 

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Yuk

Not a good indicator of taking a flier on a guy with health issues

Different situation though. He was coming off microfracture surgery during the college season, which has a more predictable outcome than Smith's degenerative nerve issue.
 

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I feel like we've come full circle a bit with running backs.

People used to be worried about the shelf life of a running back but it seems like the shelf life of most players is so slim right now that people are just drafting talent again.
With rookie contracts the way they are, it makes sense.
 

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I tought Jaylon was worth the pick at the time; he's just so talented that you have to hope he can fully recover. A year later, some decent news (the nerve is regenerating), but his ability to get on the field is still very much a question.
I expect him to play....he ran a 4.5 forty two weeks ago
 

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I feel like we've come full circle a bit with running backs.

People used to be worried about the shelf life of a running back but it seems like the shelf life of most players is so slim right now that people are just drafting talent again.


A lot of reasons to do it......Teams that lack a QB can still make a decent run at the postseason with a talented RB/RB's....And also look what a Demarco Murray/Derrick Henry can do for the development of a Marriotta......Than I look at a Tampa who just missed the playoffs, and wonder how much better they could have been with less pressure on Winston, they really got very little from the running game
 

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Not because he wasn't worthy of an early pick, it was more about the assumption that any quality RB could produce very well behind that line and the pick might have been better utilized elsewhere (defense, QB). Of course, they hit pretty well on QB later, lol.
yep...those assumptions will get you beat more often than not. Character and desire to be the best is what matters. Dallas hit a home run last draft with Elliott and Prescott.
 
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