2017 Division Prediction Thread

[tducey]

AFC: new England, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Oakland
NFC: Dallas, Green Bay, Atlanta, Seattle

 

[LambeauLegs]

Hmmm how your thinking changes from year to year. Last year Peterson played in like 3 games so was not a factor like he wont be this year but last year you must have gotten 1/4 of your current total posts in this one thread. Maybe you should read through it again.

Why the Vikings didn't overpay for Sam Bradford...

 

[GNG]

It'll be Cowboys versus Packers in the NFC Championship and Patriots versus Raiders in the AFC Championship.

 

[Manster7588]

Hmmm how your thinking changes from year to year. Last year Peterson played in like 3 games so was not a factor like he wont be this year but last year you must have gotten 1/4 of your current total posts in this one thread. Maybe you should read through it again.

Why the Vikings didn't overpay for Sam Bradford...

You beat me to this. Last season he was sucking Bradfords dick, now he laughs at Bradfords chances.

 

[rmilia1]

AFC East
1. Pats 14-2
2. Dolphins 7-9
3. Bills 6-10
4. Jets 3-13

AFC North
1. Pitt 11-5
2. Cincinnati 9-7
3. Baltimore 9-7
4. Cleveland 6-10

AFC South
1. Titans 10-6
2. Colts 8-8
3. Jags 7-9
4. Texans 6-10

NFC East
1. Dallas 10-6
2. Philly 9-7
3. Giants 9-7
4. Redskins 5-11

NFC North
1. Packers 10-6
2. Vikings 8-8
3. Lions 8-8
4. Bears 3-13

NFC South
1. Atlanta 11-5
2. Tampa 10-6
3. New Orleans 8-8
4. Carolina 7-9

NFC West
1. Seattle 11-5
2. Arizona 10-6
3. San Fran 5-11
4. Rams 4-12

Forgot the AFC Weather lol

1. Chiefs 10-6
2. Oakland 9-7
3. San Diego 7-9
4. Denver 6-10

 

[Ojb81]

Or proof that either Luck is overrated or Kaepernick is getting blackballed

Dont be a dumbass. Luck is a far FAR better option at qb than Colin

 

[rmilia1]

Dont be a dumbass. Luck is a far FAR better option at qb than Colin

He's better sure. Haven't seen proof of "far far" better . Pretty much all their numbers are the same . Luck has more YPG but throws way more. Other than that results are pretty equivalent . After 5 years I think that's a good enough sample size to separate yourself if you're light years better . Luck hasn't. He's a top 15 guy. Kaepernick is high teens/low 20s. I agree Luck is far more talented but his results just don't show it . That could change but until then it is what it is

 

[Fountain City Blues]

He's better sure. Haven't seen proof of "far far" better . Pretty much all their numbers are the same . Luck has more YPG but throws way more. Other than that results are pretty equivalent . After 5 years I think that's a good enough sample size to separate yourself if you're light years better . Luck hasn't. He's a top 15 guy. Kaepernick is high teens/low 20s. I agree Luck is far more talented but his results just don't show it . That could change but until then it is what it is

Offenses are asked to do different things. Luck, outside of a massive spike year, has kept INT's reasonably under control, created a myriad of touchdowns with his arm, legs, and field vision which all shows up in his TD and YPA which are excellent. Sure, he takes sacks, but the offense is designed to go deep when really there's only one serious deep threat: Hilton; who lead the league in yards last year not by accident iirc.

Kaep goes through spells where he is just straight up eliminated from the game. Yeah he has some solid highs that make you think he's decent, but then there are the games such as against the Bears or Cards where he looks like a random camp arm thrown to the dogs. If you aren't a big reason your team wins outside of position value, but you ARE a reason your team can lose, that's why before stats get involved, why Kaep is so low in most people's eyes, imo; then there's the politics but we both know that's bullshit so I think we can table that for now.

 

[rmilia1]

Offenses are asked to do different things. Luck, outside of a massive spike year, has keep INT's reasonably under control, created a myriad of touchdowns with his arm, legs, and field vision which all shows up in his TD and YPA which are excellent. Sure, he takes sacks, but the offense is designed to go deep when really there's only one serious deep threat: Hilton; who lead the league in yards last year not by accident iirc.

Kaep goes through spells where he is just straight up eliminated from the game. Yeah he has some solid highs that make you think he's decent, but then there are the games such as against the Bears or Cards where he looks like a random camp arm thrown to the dogs. If you aren't a big reason your team wins outside of position value, but you ARE a reason your team can lose, that's why before stats get involved, why Kaep is so low in most people's eyes, imo; then there's the politics but we both know that's bullshit so I think we can table that for now.

Eh. Luck us double digits picks every year but one and has a worse career YPA than Kaepernick. The reality is SF has has no real offensive weapons the last few years so while some of what you say is valid it's tough to judge a guy who has nothing to work with. Like I said Luck is better but there's no way he's a top 10 QB based on actual facts or results . He's closer to Kaep than he is top 8

 

[CowboyB]

It would very muchso surprise me if Mahomes started any games that had any meaning whatsoever unless Alex got his head torn off. With that being said, I do think Mahomes starts a couple for insert injury/playoff lock here.

I don't know much about him other than a little bit of hype I heard a couple weeks ago.

 

[CowboyB]

Mahomes does have an arm though his deep ball is actually the weakest part of his game as a prospect. Alex Smith also missed 2 games last year and is the QB most reliant on YAC possibly in NFL history but the team is still built to be pretty good right now and Alex Smith has respect from the players (ranked #81 in the NFL last year somehow) so he is pretty difficult to replace imo.

Factor in that Mahomes is coming from the Air Raid system and he pretty much has the built in excuse to be the QB of the future. I think the people most expecting Mahomes to rise up are optimistic Chiefs homers but its not something I would bet on unless Alex Smith regresses his play. Smith is in a weird 7.0-7.4 YPA spot where he plays just well enough to keep his job but not good enough to be a franchise QB.

Andy Reid is a factor too. There are definitely a lot worse coaches he could have ended up with.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Andy Reid is a factor too. There are definitely a lot worse coaches he could have ended up with.

I'll put it this way, if they drafted Mahomes with almost any other coach than Reid, I would be one very unhappy camper right now.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Eh. Luck us double digits picks every year but one and has a worse career YPA than Kaepernick. The reality is SF has has no real offensive weapons the last few years so while some of what you say is valid it's tough to judge a guy who has nothing to work with. Like I said Luck is better but there's no way he's a top 10 QB based on actual facts or results . He's closer to Kaep than he is top 8

Luck's INT% is not that high. Yes Kaep is lower but Luck's INT% is hardly egregious, it's above average outside of a spike year in 2015 that appears injury related. Luck was top 5 in YPA last year. Kaep was 24th. That's hard to explain away surrounding cast[e] or not, imo.

 

[CowboyB]

I'll put it this way, if they drafted Mahomes with almost any other coach than Reid, I would be one very unhappy camper right now.

Hahahaha that makes total sense

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

predict the Titans to win the division, and the Giants to suck

Every year

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I don't think the Giants will be a threat while they have TO 2.0 otherwise known as Odell Beckham Jr although their defense did make a big improvement last year. Having a distraction like that is only going to hurt them.


Other than being loved in the locker room and by teammates, just like TO

 

[CowboyB]

Hmmm how your thinking changes from year to year. Last year Peterson played in like 3 games so was not a factor like he wont be this year but last year you must have gotten 1/4 of your current total posts in this one thread. Maybe you should read through it again.

Why the Vikings didn't overpay for Sam Bradford...

Get over it. Not having Peterson back there is a huge difference. This is 2017 now.

 

[CowboyB]

predict the Titans to win the division, and the Giants to suck

Every year

Don't be hurt. And last year was the 1st year I picked them.

 

[CowboyB]

I don't think the Giants will be a threat while they have TO 2.0 otherwise known as Odell Beckham Jr although their defense did make a big improvement last year. Having a distraction like that is only going to hurt them.


Other than being loved in the locker room and by teammates, just like TO

You sound like a Cowboys and Eagles fan when TO was playing with them.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

You sound like a Cowboys and Eagles fan when TO was playing with them.

ODB is an immature punk, no argument, but every indication you get from the Giants is that he is loved by his teammates........TO was on another level of distraction, he's a guy that seemed to be in his own QB's face every game on the sidelines, that was just bad......He was the most important player by a mile on a playoff team last season....If the Giants dont win the division, it will be because Eli will suck and/or the Oline and running game has a bad season....Cant buy it will be because Beckham is a distraction